OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Mr Thunder Nick]

We can't tank for an other year. We destroy the motivation from our young guys. Go and play for the "play in"

Would you be satisfied if okc ended up becoming the grit and grind era grizzlies? First or second round for five years or so? Low to mid 50 win seasons? Maybe a conference finals mixed in? Genuine question.

No garantie, if we tank another year, that this would not happen. And we have so much first round picks the next years, where our classification doesn't matter. So let our guys play there game without pression of course.

[jake_swivel]

No garantie, if we tank another year, that this would not happen. And we have so much first round picks the next years, where our classification doesn't matter. So let our guys play there game without pression of course.

You didn’t answer.

[Dadouv47]

Gonna be really difficult to have a bottom record and develop our young guys at the same time (except if our players are playing way below expectations, which wouldn't be a great thing).

Tank gonna be brutal from a lot of teams late in season next year, every team knows Victor and Henderson are the real deal and even the rest of the draft is pretty good.

[ThunderBolt]

Gonna be really difficult to have a bottom record and develop our young guys at the same time (except if our players are playing way below expectations, which wouldn't be a great thing).

Tank gonna be brutal from a lot of teams late in season next year, every team knows Victor and Henderson are the real deal and even the rest of the draft is pretty good.

You have literally covered all angles to predetermine next year’s outcome will be bad.

[Dadouv47]

Gonna be really difficult to have a bottom record and develop our young guys at the same time (except if our players are playing way below expectations, which wouldn't be a great thing).

Tank gonna be brutal from a lot of teams late in season next year, every team knows Victor and Henderson are the real deal and even the rest of the draft is pretty good.

You have literally covered all angles to predetermine next year’s outcome will be bad.

ahahaha you know me

I'm actually pretty excited about next season...just don't know how we can get a bottom 5 record.

Rather have a season with SGA/Giddey/ pick 2 playing at a high level than being all in on a 28% chance. If we get a 6-10 pick we can still move up to 3 or 4 with our current assets. Can't have a great rebuilding team and the worst record in the league at the same time.

[Devilanche]

Gonna be really difficult to have a bottom record and develop our young guys at the same time (except if our players are playing way below expectations, which wouldn't be a great thing).

Tank gonna be brutal from a lot of teams late in season next year, every team knows Victor and Henderson are the real deal and even the rest of the draft is pretty good.

You have literally covered all angles to predetermine next year’s outcome will be bad.

ahahaha you know me

I'm actually pretty excited about next season...just don't know how we can get a bottom 5 record.

Rather have a season with SGA/Giddey/ pick 2 playing at a high level than being all in on a 28% chance. If we get a 6-10 pick we can still move up to 3 or 4 with our current assets. Can't have a great rebuilding team and the worst record in the league at the same time.

We get worse if we remove Kenrich , muscala and Dort .

[retrobro90]

For the Sochan heads (of which I am not): Would y'all rather draft Sochan at #12 or trade #12 to ATL for #16 and Okongwu? I think Onyeka's a better player outright but has had some stunted growth due to injuries. Could still grab a decent perimeter guy at #16 too imo.

[Devilanche]

For the Sochan heads (of which I am not): Would y'all rather draft Sochan at #12 or trade #12 to ATL for #16 and Okongwu? I think Onyeka's a better player outright but has had some stunted growth due to injuries. Could still grab a decent perimeter guy at #16 too imo.

Don’t think Atlanta will do that . Still see they are high on him .

[Mr Thunder Nick]

Mitchell is disappointed that Snyder will left Utah. Trade Shai for Mitchell and take Quinn as coach. I would like it.

[ThunderBolt]

Mitchell is disappointed that Snyder will left Utah. Trade Shai for Mitchell and take Quinn as coach. I would like it.

[Dadouv47]

I understand those who want us to trade #2 and picks or Giddey + picks for Mitchell but a SGA for Mitchell swap makes no sense at all.

We could afford to trade for Mitchell and Ayton while keeping Shai and Giddey but I don't think that's Presti's idea (you also need those guys to be willing to play for OKC). Think Presti is all in on trying to draft a superstar and get the best chances to win a championship even if the risk of failing and being miserable for years is higher.

[Patches Perry]

The more I think about it, the more my instinct tells me that Ivey is going to be the best player in this draft, and I think you should almost always pick the best player available regardless of position. I also think that with Presti's history, I'd be more surprised if he didn't pick somebody no one was expecting him to pick. I could honestly see him picking Shaedon Sharpe #2.

That said, I support the idea of picking the best players available for each pick regardless of position. If we do that and end up with a logjam of guards and wings, then I like the idea of going after Ayton if hes willing to sign a long term deal here.

With Chet and Jabari, I worry that they will end up being like Porzingis and Marcus Morris. Between the two I like Jabari more but I'm not really high on either one.

[Balkman32]

The Thunder are not trading for Mitchell.

I don't think the Thunder have to be in the bottom 5 next year. Its a lottery for a reason, even if they somehow make the play in and lose they still have a lottery chance. The Thunder don't need the top pick to add a great player. Since 2012 there are been a VERY solid guy who was taken after 10. If the Thunder can just get the 10th pick each of the next 4 drafts they will get 2-3 hits. That's all they need.

[ThunderBolt]

The more I think about it, the more my instinct tells me that Ivey is going to be the best player in this draft, and I think you should almost always pick the best player available regardless of position. I also think that with Presti's history, I'd be more surprised if he didn't pick somebody no one was expecting him to pick. I could honestly see him picking Shaedon Sharpe #2.

That said, I support the idea of picking the best players available for each pick regardless of position. If we do that and end up with a logjam of guards and wings, then I like the idea of going after Ayton if hes willing to sign a long term deal here.

With Chet and Jabari, I worry that they will end up being like Porzingis and Marcus Morris. Between the two I like Jabari more but I'm not really high on either one.

On paper, Ivey is a lot of things that I don't want in a pick. The more I watch his highlights, the more I find myself wondering if some of the trauma from the last few years of westbrook is causing me to overthink him. I'll be the first to admit that I was scared to death that we were going to get "stuck" with Scottie Barnes.

[Patches Perry]

The more I think about it, the more my instinct tells me that Ivey is going to be the best player in this draft, and I think you should almost always pick the best player available regardless of position. I also think that with Presti's history, I'd be more surprised if he didn't pick somebody no one was expecting him to pick. I could honestly see him picking Shaedon Sharpe #2.

That said, I support the idea of picking the best players available for each pick regardless of position. If we do that and end up with a logjam of guards and wings, then I like the idea of going after Ayton if hes willing to sign a long term deal here.

With Chet and Jabari, I worry that they will end up being like Porzingis and Marcus Morris. Between the two I like Jabari more but I'm not really high on either one.

On paper, Ivey is a lot of things that I don't want in a pick. The more I watch his highlights, the more I find myself wondering if some of the trauma from the last few years of westbrook is causing me to overthink him. I'll be the first to admit that I was scared to death that we were going to get "stuck" with Scottie Barnes.

Honestly it's hard to know how good any of these guys will be. If you're the one who gets to make the pick, you do your best to research these guys as much as possible, both physical and mental qualities, then do your best and live with your pick. Ivey seems like he will thrive in the kind of space the NBA provides and seems to have the explosion and creativity with the ball that is a near prerequisite for top scorers in the league, but I'm just going on instinct here.

[ThunderBolt]

The more I think about it, the more my instinct tells me that Ivey is going to be the best player in this draft, and I think you should almost always pick the best player available regardless of position. I also think that with Presti's history, I'd be more surprised if he didn't pick somebody no one was expecting him to pick. I could honestly see him picking Shaedon Sharpe #2.

That said, I support the idea of picking the best players available for each pick regardless of position. If we do that and end up with a logjam of guards and wings, then I like the idea of going after Ayton if hes willing to sign a long term deal here.

With Chet and Jabari, I worry that they will end up being like Porzingis and Marcus Morris. Between the two I like Jabari more but I'm not really high on either one.

On paper, Ivey is a lot of things that I don't want in a pick. The more I watch his highlights, the more I find myself wondering if some of the trauma from the last few years of westbrook is causing me to overthink him. I'll be the first to admit that I was scared to death that we were going to get "stuck" with Scottie Barnes.

Honestly it's hard to know how good any of these guys will be. If you're the one who gets to make the pick, you do your best to research these guys as much as possible, both physical and mental qualities, then do your best and live with your pick. Ivey seems like he will thrive in the kind of space the NBA provides and seems to have the explosion and creativity with the ball that is a near prerequisite for top scorers in the league, but I'm just going on instinct here.

The problem is if Ivey needs space to thrive, we might be the wrong franchise for him.

[oreojenkins]

Would either side be interested in an SGA for Scottie swap? Would probably need to be like SGA and Dort for Scottie and Trent. Just my 2 cents (worth nothing), but it kinda fits given the rosters and timelines. OG no longer unhappy, TOR gets more win now, OKC gets more synced up (which may or may not be a good thing in terms of eventually paying these guys) + more likely to allow for one more year of tanking. IMO both sides probably say no, but if Presti truly does like Ivey, it kinda makes sense. Disclaimer: I am not a let's trade SGA person. Keep your good players. Just a hypo.

[ThunderBolt]

I’m not interested in trading shai. We have every reason to believe he wants to be here right now and I don’t understand wanting to trade him away. Barnes is nice but he’s a significantly worse fit with Giddey. Also, Toronto should not trade Barnes to accommodate OG. If push comes to shove, moving OG is the right move.

[Dadouv47]

Don't want to trade Shai and Toronto wouldn't trade Barnes, so Toronto isn't a trade partner in a potential Shai trade.

If Shai wants out, get #4 + picks from SAC. Not the road I want to take though.

[retrobro90]

Would either side be interested in an SGA for Scottie swap? Would probably need to be like SGA and Dort for Scottie and Trent. Just my 2 cents (worth nothing), but it kinda fits given the rosters and timelines. OG no longer unhappy, TOR gets more win now, OKC gets more synced up (which may or may not be a good thing in terms of eventually paying these guys) + more likely to allow for one more year of tanking. IMO both sides probably say no, but if Presti truly does like Ivey, it kinda makes sense. Disclaimer: I am not a let's trade SGA person. Keep your good players. Just a hypo.

This is a trade I would make if I were a heartless Daryl Morey/Danny Ainge type who didnt care about preserving culture/reputation amongst players. Realistically OKC can't be this cut throat in the longview. If I were just looking at this on paper I'd say yes for sure. I think Scottie is a future multi-time all star and with that many added years of team control it seems like a no brainer from that perspective. Again, in the real world, I would not do this as it sends the wrong message to everyone in that locker room and Shai has been nothing but good for OKC since he got here.