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Post#3681 » by jake_swivel » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:31 pm

Balkman32 wrote:http://tradenba.com/trades/Skkris_bH

Ibaka returns...

Toronto has always been liked to Wiggins. I don’t know if they still have interest in his services but I can see this making sense for all parties.

Wolves get off of $155 m of money they don’t like. They add a first ballot hall of famer, who the GM knows how he goes about his day to day. The other thing is taking on 3 years of CP3 gets them out of the Wiggins contract 2 years earlier so they can try to fix the team before KAt’s unrestricted FA.


I like Powell more than Wiggins if I'm toronto.
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Post#3682 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:34 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Have you guys looked closely at this twitter account? The guy has some tweets reporting things that have broken several days after he tweeted. Example, Tyson Chandlers signing with houston.

Read on Twitter


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He says Korver is on his way to Phila as well.
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Post#3683 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:34 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
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ThunderBolt wrote:Have you guys looked closely at this twitter account? The guy has some tweets reporting things that have broken several days after he tweeted. Example, Tyson Chandlers signing with houston.

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


I almost posted this guy twitter here when I read his stuff yesterday. Fair to say that he broke some news but he also was wrong about many things so...
Guess he could be right about the CP3 trade though (even more considering the fact that DIon and Olynyx aren't following Heat stuff anymore). They could be waiting for some garbage Miami player than can't be moved right now.


I didn't go back and read everything but it seems like there is more than just guessing going on. One can hope.
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Some were a bit easy to take a ''shot'' but Tyson Chandler to Houston really gave me the impression that this guy knows some things.
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Post#3684 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:34 pm

jake_swivel wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Have you guys looked closely at this twitter account? The guy has some tweets reporting things that have broken several days after he tweeted. Example, Tyson Chandlers signing with houston.


He definitely seems to have hit on some. Hope he's right.


No one had Kawhi right..
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Post#3685 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:35 pm

Odd that the last reported news on the Paul to Miami thing was on the 12th though. That seems like an eternity in this day and age for news to stay quiet if its really happening.
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Post#3686 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:37 pm

Oh well hope he's right. Would be ''only'' one first round pick.

Wish we could take Dragic back but then the prize would be way higher. Olynyx/Waiters/scrub + a first pick for CP3 is ugly but whatever
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Post#3687 » by jake_swivel » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:39 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:That 2023 pick is more valuable to Miami than any other team in the league, so we do have a bit of leverage there.


I feel like the Miami picks are the best of the bunch. I think we need to rank our picks. Because giving up the 2020 Denver pick is nothing like giving the 2021 Miami pick.

Would you rather give Miami back one of their picks or swap CP3 for Wiggins?


I think the last two Clippers picks are potentially the most valuable even if they're further away. Kawhi and Paul are gonna be in their mid 30s by the time the second one rolls around. It's a tossup between those and the Rockets picks. I think the Rockets picks are more likely to suck and have a high pick, but their protection is a problem.

I'd probably go:

Second tier:

Denver pick
2022 Clippers (They will probably be awesome)
2023 Miami (it's further away and protected)
2021 Miami (They are likely to still have Butler performing well, but if he blows out a knee, it could become super valuable)

First tier:

2026 Houston (protected and far away, but Harden and Westbrook will be ancient)
2026 Clippers (super far away)
2024 Houston
2024 Clippers

This is fluid depending on how things shake out, but it's how I'd rank them today.
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Post#3688 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:41 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:Over on the GB the trolling about moving this team is really something else. I wonder, why is it no one talks about Memphis and New Orleans as losing their teams? Oh that's right, because trolls online confuse proportion of cool bars with media market size.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/837czn/nba_media_market_size_rankings_2018/


because we had 3 MVPs (2 here). Durant had several scoring titles here, Westbook as well. Westbrook averaged a triple double for 3 straight year (he broke almost every record). We got a 6th man of the year, a top 3 MVP candidate this year. 4 trips to the WCF, one Finals; 4 HOF in 10 years (not counting Melo).

Pelicans started their rebuild before us though but they were slowly declining over the years. I prefer going full rebuild the like we are doing right now but sure our team changed so much in 10 years that people are trying to enjoy our ''failures''.


Naw, man. What I'm speaking of isn't a recent phenomenon. We've been dealing with stuff about 'Oklahoma City can't support a pro team' like this since before the team even moved here. It went mostly dark while we had our run. Now it's come back. It's like the vultures who just don't like Oklahoma City think they see an opportunity to strike.

I think the Pels as sparred it because they've had the Saints for decades so everyone just sort of takes it as a given they can support pro sports. Memphis I have no idea why they don't get this crap but I suppose it has something to with Memphis being thought of as a cool town with its own culture, blues music, barbecue whereas OKC is thought of as just flyover country.



It doesn't help that on of the more prominent media members in Colin Cowherd is a scorned Supersonics fan.
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Post#3689 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:42 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Odd that the last reported news on the Paul to Miami thing was on the 12th though. That seems like an eternity in this day and age for news to stay quiet if its really happening.

Right but he does say he reports things "days" before others.
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Post#3690 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:59 pm

That seems like a fine deal to me. I would take back Dion to assist our tank for sure.

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Post#3691 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:06 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Oh well hope he's right. Would be ''only'' one first round pick.

Wish we could take Dragic back but then the prize would be way higher. Olynyx/Waiters/scrub + a first pick for CP3 is ugly but whatever


If Dragic comes back in a deal I don’t mind giving the 2020 Denver pick because that’s something you can get from a playoff team as a rental of Dragic at the deadline.
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Post#3692 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:32 pm

I think it'd be funny if we did make the trade outlined above with a first of our own that was protected like 1-20 or something.
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Post#3693 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:48 pm

I think these are our draft treasure trove rankings:

2022 Thunder (Lottery Protected)
2021 Miami Unprotected
2023 Miami (Lottery Protected until 2026 then unprotected)
2020 Thunder
2021 Thunder (Rockets top 4 protected swap)
2026 Clippers unprotected
2026 Rockets protected 1-4
2024 Clippers unprotected
2024 Rockets protected 1-4
2023 Thunder (Clippers Swap)
2024 Thunder
2025 Thunder (Clippers or Rockets top 20 protected swap)
2026 Thunder
2020 Denver Top 10 protected

Their best pick might be the one Atlanta is most likely to get from the Schröder trade. Unless OKC makes sure they land in the lottery that year. It would also be CP3’s last year on his contract and the potential double draft.
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Post#3694 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:53 pm

I would put our 2020 pick higher. There likely won’t be another year that management cares less about winning games.
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Post#3695 » by mr570 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:54 pm

Something is fishy about that guy. I don't know if he isn't doing this illegally somehow. Some people are pretty good with computers, if you know what I'm saying.
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Post#3696 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:02 pm

We have these 2nd round picks: (21-25 to Phila and ATL if we keep our protected firsts in 20 and 22)

Thunder 2020
Grizzlies 2024
Thunder 2025
Thunder 2026
Bulls 2020 (very unlikely to convey)
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Post#3697 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:12 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I would put our 2020 pick higher. There likely won’t be another year that management cares less about winning games.


I think Miami’s picks are both guaranteed to be top 20 selections.

The team as constructed isn’t that bad. The western conference is loaded but if the Thunder got the 8th seed next year it wouldn't be that surprising. Or they could deplete the roster at the deadline.
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Post#3698 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:14 pm

mr570 wrote:Something is fishy about that guy. I don't know if he isn't doing this illegally somehow. Some people are pretty good with computers, if you know what I'm saying.

Or he’s just making stuff up. If a deal is done I wouldn’t expect it to not be announced by tomorrow.
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Post#3699 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:21 pm

mr570 wrote:Something is fishy about that guy. I don't know if he isn't doing this illegally somehow. Some people are pretty good with computers, if you know what I'm saying.
I've always wondered that. Seems totally within the realm of possibility in this day and age.

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Post#3700 » by mr570 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:24 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
mr570 wrote:Something is fishy about that guy. I don't know if he isn't doing this illegally somehow. Some people are pretty good with computers, if you know what I'm saying.
I've always wondered that. Seems totally within the realm of possibility in this day and age.

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Would not surprise me at all if he knows what's going on in both Sham's and Woj's Twitter accounts. He just doesn't sound professional and promotes himself way too much. He's got a bug somehow, if he's not just pulling things out of his backside.

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