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Post#381 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:05 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:Vecenie on down to dunk. Said he has Chet first now on his board. Feels like consensus toward going with Chet first :(

Well I like Ivey but I would still go with Jabari second if Orlando picks Chet (and I wouldn't trade #2 and #12 to move up to 1).


Trade back with the Kings? Get an unprotected ‘23 First from the Kings and a pick swap in ‘26 worst of (HOU/LAC/OKC/SAC) in is always on the table..


Don't think we would get an unprotected pick and even less an unprotected pick + a swap.

But yeah I would draft Jabari and trade him to the Kings if Ivey is still available at 4 for an unprotected 2023 pick. Don't like the odds of having a lottery pick but who knows.

Jabari is still the best fit for our team between him, Ivey and Paolo though. Vecenie having very solid arguments of why we should pick him at #2 if Chet is gone.
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Post#382 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:15 am

Some stuff from Vecenie:

- Chet/Jabari in a tier above the rest

- Jabari should be at least a good defender. He doesn't like Banchero pick that much because he thinks he will have some struggles on the defensive end (Banchero's offensive impact won't be good enough to justify picking him over Jabari).

- He doesn't think moving up from 12 to 7 or 8 is a good move because the talent gap isn't big enough in those spots.

- He's VERY high on Sochan (5th on his board) and believe he has real offensive skills. Future all star if he can develop his offensive skills.

- He's low on AJG. Not a big Dieng fan either (think he's overrated as an athlete and not sure if he will be a good shooter).

- He likes Mathurin a lot more than general consensus

- He likes a Giddey/Duren fit (compared Duren to Deandre Jordan strenght at the rim)

- He likes Procida/Christie as potential early seconds.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#383 » by Old Man Game » Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:02 am

I keep thinking about Banchero. You draft second overall you want a proven bucket getter. I just have a sinking feeling we're going to regret it if we pass on him.
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Post#384 » by Devilanche » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:41 am

jake_swivel wrote:The latest down to dunk podcast was interesting regarding sharpe. There was some conspiracy talk, with multiple sources saying sharpe’s workouts and interviews have been so bad that the host’s implication was that sharpe was sand bagging to control which team drafts him. Apparently SGA and Sharpe share management along with the Canadian connection. I don’t buy it, but it’s fun to think that presti’s good reputation and goodwill with players would pay off in this way.

I don’t buy it either .

Why not just do one of the following.

- Decline the invite
- claim you have a sprain so unable to workout .
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Post#385 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:34 pm

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Post#386 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:51 pm

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I'm still heartbroken that Mobley was a Thunder fan too :(

Pretty cool that we have a few prospects that were thunder fans or players that would be happy to get drafted by the thunder because our organisation is well respected but I don't really care about Dyson Daniels. I know Presti likes to to draft guys that could stay long term but he's clearly not the player I want us to draft. The fit with Giddey would be beyond terrible...but yeah in a vacuum is a Presti pick (length/size, passing skill and thunder fan).
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Post#387 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:54 pm

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Post#388 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:54 pm

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I'm still heartbroken that Mobley was a Thunder fan too :(

Pretty cool that we have a few prospects that were thunder fans or players that would be happy to get drafted by the thunder because our organisation is well respected but I don't really care about Dyson Daniels. I know Presti likes to to draft guys that could stay long term but he's clearly not the player I want us to draft. The fit with Giddey would be beyond terrible...but yeah in a vacuum is a Presti pick (length/size, passing skill and thunder fan).

I would rather draft daniels than sochan or eason.
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Post#389 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:55 pm

Still want us to draft Chet but I'm feeling better about Jabari. Don't want anyone else at 2 or moving down.
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Post#390 » by Old Man Game » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:57 pm

I can't get over how little rumors there have been here in the last week or so. And I misremembering things or do we usually not get more than this?
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Post#391 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:47 am

What would be your best offer to move up to get Ivey at 4? I think it's pretty unrealistic but fair to try :)
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Post#392 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:49 am

Old Man Game wrote:I can't get over how little rumors there have been here in the last week or so. And I misremembering things or do we usually not get more than this?


little rumors? what kind of rumors? Think we are having a lot of rumors from 4 to 12. It's pretty quiet in the top 3 though...guess both Orlando and OKC works in silence. Houston better keep it quiet too.
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Post#393 » by retrobro90 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:46 am

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I'm still heartbroken that Mobley was a Thunder fan too :(

Pretty cool that we have a few prospects that were thunder fans or players that would be happy to get drafted by the thunder because our organisation is well respected but I don't really care about Dyson Daniels. I know Presti likes to to draft guys that could stay long term but he's clearly not the player I want us to draft. The fit with Giddey would be beyond terrible...but yeah in a vacuum is a Presti pick (length/size, passing skill and thunder fan).

I would rather draft daniels than sochan or eason.


I think Daniels brings about 95% of what Sochan brings to a team defensively and 115% of what Sochan brings to a team offensively. Not just a theoretical scorer. He's a legit shot creator for himself with respectable volume. Shot improvement matches the eye test too despite the low FT numbers. I've warmed marginally on Sochan in the past couple weeks but he's still hasn't enough foundationally on offense for me to justify his minutes and development with this team. Wish him the best elsewhere.

Eason to me is a raw ball of malleable physical tools with half the instincts and feel of Daniels/Sochan. Maybe has the "highest ceiling" of the 3 but his path to reaching that ceiling is a circuitous labyrinth. Would need that type of exceptional steep development curve a la Kawhi and that's too risky for me to want him at 12. A couple picks back makes more sense for his gamble.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#394 » by Devilanche » Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:19 am

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Old Man Game wrote:I can't get over how little rumors there have been here in the last week or so. And I misremembering things or do we usually not get more than this?


little rumors? what kind of rumors? Think we are having a lot of rumors from 4 to 12. It's pretty quiet in the top 3 though...guess both Orlando and OKC works in silence. Houston better keep it quiet too.

I’m guessing it’s cause last year top of draft was a lot more exciting than this year .
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#395 » by Devilanche » Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:20 am

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I would rather draft daniels than sochan or eason.


I think Daniels brings about 95% of what Sochan brings to a team defensively and 115% of what Sochan brings to a team offensively. Not just a theoretical scorer. He's a legit shot creator for himself with respectable volume. Shot improvement matches the eye test too despite the low FT numbers. I've warmed marginally on Sochan in the past couple weeks but he's still hasn't enough foundationally on offense for me to justify his minutes and development with this team. Wish him the best elsewhere.

Eason to me is a raw ball of malleable physical tools with half the instincts and feel of Daniels/Sochan. Maybe has the "highest ceiling" of the 3 but his path to reaching that ceiling is a circuitous labyrinth. Would need that type of exceptional steep development curve a la Kawhi and that's too risky for me to want him at 12. A couple picks back makes more sense for his gamble.


Sounds realistic . It’s more likely Daniels is going in the 6-8 range while sochan might be in the 9-11 range.

Eason might be available after 15 honestly .
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Post#397 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:38 pm

I will remain alone on my Sochan island.

I like Daniels and always think we should pick BPA but he doesn't make sense with Giddey and SGA.

I'm pretty low on Eason too. I think Eason, Dieng and Williams are the guys I really don't want at 12.
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Post#398 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:56 pm

I think Daniel's skill sets could still work well with Giddey and SGA despite the fact we might not maximize them. I prefer that skillset overlapping compared to heavy iso guys.

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Post#399 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:00 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I think Daniel's skill sets could still work well with Giddey and SGA despite the fact we might not maximize them. I prefer that skillset overlapping compared to heavy iso guys.

Also, is anyone else having issues with this page loading weirdly at the bottom?


same issue here and I don't know what is the problem tbh. Don't see any different configuration.

I will open a new thread if I can't get it fixed.
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