12/13 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (100) - (95) Indiana Pacers

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 12 PTS (3-14 FG), 5 AST, 3 STL
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Steven Adams | 23 PTS (11-16 FG), 13 REB
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68%
Alex Abrines | 14 PTS (5-8 FG, 4-6 3P)
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16%
Russell Westbrook | 10 PTS (3-16 FG), 17 REB, 12 AST
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3%
Jerami Grant | 9 PTS (3-6 FG), 6 REB, 3 BLK
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Josh Huestis | 5 PTS (2-3 FG, 1-2 3P)
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3%
Patrick Patterson | 8 PTS (2-4 FG, 2-3 3P)
3
10%
Other (specify below)
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Total votes: 31

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Post#41 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:41 pm

spearsy23 wrote:If someone is saying to start huestis I'm pretty much ignoring their opinion about all things basketball related.


Care to elaborate? Do you think a lineup of russ/george/huestis/patterson/Adams would struggle defensively? George guards the best wing, huestis on #2? Is it a bad thing to have 4 guys capable of shooting on the perimeter, with a monster in the middle, around one of the most dynamic playmakers ever to play in the NBA? What's the problem? Name another team that starts a 0 offense 2 guard? It's not 1995 anymore guys, you sound ridiculous to keep standing by the 'you need a defender with no other nba qualities ' notion. That's okc media bs that's been drilled into your heads. Pay attention to other teams around the league.
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Post#42 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:49 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
CROklahoma wrote:What is your point ?


That there's no additional spacing provided by more shooting at SG.


CROklahoma wrote:If you didnt realize watching the whole game that Abrines was a big reason we won the game, you can continue to lament your stuff about basketball all you want without anybody actually respecting nonargumented talk. If you think your amount of posts should amuse other people you are wrong


Damn! I didn't know I was living in your head rent-free.

At least these other two fools are somewhat amusing. You trying to pick some kind of fight with me is sad tho.


CR is dead on, despite your name calling. Just like you not understanding defense is played as a unit, your missing the point here too. If the SG isn't providing spacing (they are sagging off to help), they need to make the opposition pay when they catch the ball, by burying 3s, ala abrines last night. When they don't make them pay (roberson), the offense falls flat. A guy that can make shots, dribble to collapse defense, pass on the dribble (abrines, huestis) makes it so much easier. It's standard on every other team, but OKC.

I agree, whoever they put next to russ/PG will and should be largely uninvolved in the creation of offense. They simply need to make teams pay for leaving them open. Abrines barely had the ball and hit for 14 pts. A competent shooter could do that consistently playing with those guys. PG clearly can guard the top wing on the other team. Step your game up before you start the name calling. You look ridiculous.
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Post#43 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:28 pm

If only you could somehow combine the Abrines of late with Huestis, then you’d have such a great fit.
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Post#44 » by CROklahoma » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:34 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
CROklahoma wrote:What is your point ?


That there's no additional spacing provided by more shooting at SG.


Indeed, mr.Genious, we should look to play Beverly,Roberson,Allen,Gobert alongside Russ because, who needs spacing after all from any of the positions ...

Welcome to Jail Blazers of 2017 ...

I guess you have played plenty of basketball in your life knowing how much of a difference one knockdown shooter can do for you as a team, and your overall confidence when attacking the rim ...
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Post#45 » by slick_watts » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:38 pm

bruh. are we really crediting abrines for the offense here when we were barely above league average, and mostly because of offensive rebounding and free throw disparity. indiana waaaaaay out-shot us from the field.

you robes haters latch onto every little morsel you can possibly get your hands on, and ignore the big picture of the defense struggling mightily this year with him out of the game. one contest against indiana notwithstanding. abrines starters are allowing 110+pp100. yuck!

if you think our defense can function long term at an elite level with abrines being crossed by joe ingles, bogdan bogvanovic, and sindarius thornwell then you are insane!
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Post#46 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:02 pm

slick_watts wrote:bruh. are we really crediting abrines for the offense here when we were barely above league average, and mostly because of offensive rebounding and free throw disparity. indiana waaaaaay out-shot us from the field.

you robes haters latch onto every little morsel you can possibly get your hands on, and ignore the big picture of the defense struggling mightily this year with him out of the game. one contest against indiana notwithstanding. abrines starters are allowing 110+pp100. yuck!

if you think our defense can function long term at an elite level with abrines being crossed by joe ingles, bogdan bogvanovic, and sindarius thornwell then you are insane!


Abrines is best served coming off the bench. What are your thoughts on huestis? If him and patterson start, the D is fine, melo, abrines, Felton, grant come off the bench....and Roberson plays spot minutes like deandre liggins. It's not latching onto anything. Their offense isn't working. Their D fine.
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Post#47 » by Thundershock88 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:04 pm

If we don't get those 14 points from Alex, we lose. Bottom line, and he wouldn't have gotten them off the bench.
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Post#48 » by slick_watts » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:05 pm

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slick_watts wrote:bruh. are we really crediting abrines for the offense here when we were barely above league average, and mostly because of offensive rebounding and free throw disparity. indiana waaaaaay out-shot us from the field.

you robes haters latch onto every little morsel you can possibly get your hands on, and ignore the big picture of the defense struggling mightily this year with him out of the game. one contest against indiana notwithstanding. abrines starters are allowing 110+pp100. yuck!

if you think our defense can function long term at an elite level with abrines being crossed by joe ingles, bogdan bogvanovic, and sindarius thornwell then you are insane!


Abrines is best served coming off the bench. What are your thoughts on huestis? If him and patterson start, the D is fine, melo, abrines, Felton, grant come off the bench....and Roberson plays spot minutes like deandre liggins. It's not latching onto anything. Their offense isn't working. Their D fine.


why the heck would you start huestis instead of roberson? he's worse in almost every way. offensively he's less efficient, more turnover prone, gets fewer offensive rebounds, he's a worse passer, etc. and of course he's much worse on defense.

preferring huestis over roberson is insane. you are insane and you have an insane agenda.
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Post#49 » by Pillendreher » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:06 pm

CROklahoma wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
CROklahoma wrote:What is your point ?


That there's no additional spacing provided by more shooting at SG.


Indeed, mr.Genious, we should look to play Beverly,Roberson,Allen,Gobert alongside Russ because, who needs spacing after all from any of the positions ...

Welcome to Jail Blazers of 2017 ...

I guess you have played plenty of basketball in your life knowing how much of a difference one knockdown shooter can do for you as a team, and your overall confidence when attacking the rim ...


Cute.
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Post#50 » by slick_watts » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:06 pm

Thundershock88 wrote:If we don't get those 14 points from Alex, we lose. Bottom line, and he wouldn't have gotten them off the bench.


haha what. why are abrines' points so special? if a lot of things don't happen, we lose. and it wasn't even an impressive win!
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Post#51 » by Pillendreher » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:07 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Thundershock88 wrote:If we don't get those 14 points from Alex, we lose. Bottom line, and he wouldn't have gotten them off the bench.


haha what. why are abrines' points so special? if a lot of things don't happen, we lose. and it wasn't even an impressive win!

Gotta keep the movement alive.
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Post#52 » by slick_watts » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:11 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
Thundershock88 wrote:If we don't get those 14 points from Alex, we lose. Bottom line, and he wouldn't have gotten them off the bench.


haha what. why are abrines' points so special? if a lot of things don't happen, we lose. and it wasn't even an impressive win!

Gotta keep the movement alive.


these guys feel physical pain when andre roberson succeeds. they are basketball evangelicals. roberson is having a good year and has been instrumental on a team with the #2 defense in the nba! but he's the problem because anthony, westbrook, and george can't figure out how to play together. roberson's one of the few guys actually doing his job properly. him and adams.

but i guess when you have an agenda you take it all the way.
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Post#53 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:16 pm

No one thought the defense was fine without Dre after the Charlotte game. Of course hardenasg and his crew are nowhere to be found after that game.
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Post#54 » by Thundershock88 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:42 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
haha what. why are abrines' points so special? if a lot of things don't happen, we lose. and it wasn't even an impressive win!

Gotta keep the movement alive.


these guys feel physical pain when andre roberson succeeds. they are basketball evangelicals. roberson is having a good year and has been instrumental on a team with the #2 defense in the nba! but he's the problem because anthony, westbrook, and george can't figure out how to play together. roberson's one of the few guys actually doing his job properly. him and adams.

but i guess when you have an agenda you take it all the way.



:crazy: I like Roberson. I have nothing against him, but he should be a spot defender. Not full time. I haven't mentioned making this change all year, until now, so I'm not sure what agenda you're talking about.
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Post#55 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:00 pm

I know I'm behind, but I just read the ICYMI article on The Ringer.

How, in a game where our "Big 3" shoot a combined 10/25, and Adams shoots 11/16, does Adams get 0 FGA in the 4th quarter?
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Post#56 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:08 pm

Steven Adams is overpaid they said... :crazy:

Seriously speaking, glad to see at least one of our starter delivering so well. Also glad to see Patterson showing why we brought him. Hope he will get more playing time and be in better shape soon enough (if Donovan gives him the chance to play....)
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Post#57 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:27 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Steven Adams is overpaid they said... :crazy:

Seriously speaking, glad to see at least one of our starter delivering so well. Also glad to see Patterson showing why we brought him. Hope he will get more playing time and be in better shape soon enough (if Donovan gives him the chance to play....)

He wouldn’t have gotten twenty five million on the open market last year.
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Post#58 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:32 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Steven Adams is overpaid they said... :crazy:

Seriously speaking, glad to see at least one of our starter delivering so well. Also glad to see Patterson showing why we brought him. Hope he will get more playing time and be in better shape soon enough (if Donovan gives him the chance to play....)

He wouldn’t have gotten twenty five million on the open market last year.


He was great when he got his extension. Then he sucked by time last 3-4 months of regular season.
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Post#59 » by NOOB77 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:46 pm

NaturalThunder wrote:I know I'm behind, but I just read the ICYMI article on The Ringer.

How, in a game where our "Big 3" shoot a combined 10/25, and Adams shoots 11/16, does Adams get 0 FGA in the 4th quarter?



Because the person with the ball never passed it to him. He isn't a center where you can run a post ISO for him. He is a fantastic finisher in traffic and has great hands. So if the person driving doesn't feel like passing this time down the court then he will not get the ball.

There isn't a set play for Adams. Adams gets his points off of pick and rolls. If a defense decides to take away the roll then Adams will get no points or shots.
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Post#60 » by Marcus50 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:35 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:I know I'm behind, but I just read the ICYMI article on The Ringer.

How, in a game where our "Big 3" shoot a combined 10/25, and Adams shoots 11/16, does Adams get 0 FGA in the 4th quarter?



Because the person with the ball never passed it to him. He isn't a centre where you can run a post ISO for him. He is a fantastic finisher in traffic and has great hands. So if the person driving doesn't feel like passing this time down the court then he will not get the ball.

There isn't a set play for Adams. Adams gets his points off of pick and rolls. If a defence decides to take away the roll then Adams will get no points or shots.


OKC's 2nd half problems are that the team goes away from the plan that has worked in the first two quarters and this is especially true in fourth quarters, Adams doesn't get looks in the 4th quarters because we become more inclined to ISO plays that five the players contested looks and it's not working.

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