The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland

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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#41 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:02 am

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JustOneFix wrote:I'm so confident in us against the Blazers, that I would even dare to rest George for the first game. If we win the game 1, I would rest him the game 2 as well and get him completely healthy and rested for the second round.
Woah bro hold your horses. we not doing that.

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Not going to be that easy to win at Portland. We already won there but they are a very good home team.

Think PG's health will be the X factor. Portland doesn't have anyone that can defend well enough on him. If he's shooting well there's nothing they can do (problem is that he's not shooting well for a while :()
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#42 » by 1bigfan13 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:13 pm

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CROklahoma wrote:And who would actually rebound the ball for them ?
Dame $ ?

Adams would make apartment underneath the basket, stop with the ridicolous ideas ...


If there's ever a series that Adams could dominate, this should be it. No more 4 FGA kind of games. Involve him heavily. I don't think they have a single guy on the roster that can match him physically.



Which means the Thunder will largely ignore this mismatch. I think they'll go to it a few times but it's not in their DNA to repeatedly exploit a mismatch that doesn't involve Russ or PG13. The only way I see Adams having a huge impact on the offensive end of the floor is if he dominates the offensive boards and gets a lot of put backs at the rim.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#43 » by Pillendreher » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:34 pm

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CROklahoma wrote:And who would actually rebound the ball for them ?
Dame $ ?

Adams would make apartment underneath the basket, stop with the ridicolous ideas ...


If there's ever a series that Adams could dominate, this should be it. No more 4 FGA kind of games. Involve him heavily. I don't think they have a single guy on the roster that can match him physically.



Which means the Thunder will largely ignore this mismatch. I think they'll go to it a few times but it's not in their DNA to repeatedly exploit a mismatch that doesn't involve Russ or PG13. The only way I see Adams having a huge impact on the offensive end of the floor is if he dominates the offensive boards and gets a lot of put backs at the rim.


Which tells you all you need to know about our coaching staff. I listened to the Lowe Post today and noticed one key thing: For every matchup they talked about stuff teams have been doing, could be doing, little wrinkles they might add. For every team but the Thunder. And I can't even fault them for it simply because we don't look like we gameplan like other teams. For us it's roleplayers making 3s and Russ not losing control. That's it. :banghead:
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#44 » by 1bigfan13 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:34 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Which tells you all you need to know about our coaching staff. I listened to the Lowe Post today and noticed one key thing: For every matchup they talked about stuff teams have been doing, could be doing, little wrinkles they might add. For every team but the Thunder. And I can't even fault them for it simply because we don't look like we gameplan like other teams. For us it's roleplayers making 3s and Russ not losing control. That's it. :banghead:


Sadly that's pretty much what it comes down to for OKC. I know the saying is "it's a make or miss league" but it feels like the Thunder take that to the extreme. Aside from a few pick and roll lobs to Adams or one of the wings off the baseline, there isn't much creativity to their offensive game plan. As you mentioned, you just have to hope the role players' shots are falling.

On the plus side, at least it looks like someone has finally got it into Ferguson's head that he needs to do more than stand in the corner and chuck 3s. He's actually been putting the ball on the floor the last few games and looked for other shots than that corner 3. I think he's even caught defenses by surprise by doing this because I'm sure they were expecting him to do nothing but catch and shoot from the corner. It's been refreshing to watch. Hopefully he keeps it up throughout the playoffs.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#45 » by slick_watts » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:24 pm

the thunder definitely game plan. especially against portland. i think every game we faced them they switched defensive approach at half time.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#46 » by Pillendreher » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:56 pm

slick_watts wrote:the thunder definitely game plan. especially against portland. i think every game we faced them they switched defensive approach at half time.


They should have been prepared before the game started. This happened way too often lately where they started horribly and then tried to come back afterwards. We can't have those kind of games in the Playoffs.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

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slick_watts wrote:the thunder definitely game plan. especially against portland. i think every game we faced them they switched defensive approach at half time.


They should have been prepared before the game started. This happened way too often lately where they started horribly and then tried to come back afterwards. We can't have those kind of games in the Playoffs.


this problem seems more effort related to me. in addition to making changes at halftime when necessary (e.g. v. portland in one of the games we hid westbrook on aminu after halftime) the team has a habit of starting games sloppily and engaging more when they are down. we all know that, i think.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#48 » by Pillendreher » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:51 pm

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slick_watts wrote:the thunder definitely game plan. especially against portland. i think every game we faced them they switched defensive approach at half time.


They should have been prepared before the game started. This happened way too often lately where they started horribly and then tried to come back afterwards. We can't have those kind of games in the Playoffs.


this problem seems more effort related to me. in addition to making changes at halftime when necessary (e.g. v. portland in one of the games we hid westbrook on aminu after halftime) the team has a habit of starting games sloppily and engaging more when they are down. we all know that, i think.


Fair point. I don't think if that's "effort" though. Seems to me what you're describing is more like a lack of discipline and a lack of taking every game seriously. This also ties in nicely with what Erik Horne has been talking about these last two seasons: Not valuing possessions.

But at the same time it just makes no sense given the kind of discipline the first half's defense demanded.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#49 » by slick_watts » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:57 pm

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They should have been prepared before the game started. This happened way too often lately where they started horribly and then tried to come back afterwards. We can't have those kind of games in the Playoffs.


this problem seems more effort related to me. in addition to making changes at halftime when necessary (e.g. v. portland in one of the games we hid westbrook on aminu after halftime) the team has a habit of starting games sloppily and engaging more when they are down. we all know that, i think.


Fair point. I don't think if that's "effort" though. Seems to me what you're describing is more like a lack of discipline and a lack of taking every game seriously. This also ties in nicely with what Erik Horne has been talking about these last two seasons: Not valuing possessions.

But at the same time it just makes no sense given the kind of discipline the first half's defense demanded.


nothing about our defensive drop-off makes any sense. discipline, effort, valuing possessions.. these have been things we've harped on about for years.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#50 » by Pillendreher » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:36 pm

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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#51 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:46 pm

yeah...not good. Tucker went all in against PG13's shoulder. PG13 wouldn't have been able to play 2 games in a series against the Rockets.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#52 » by CROklahoma » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:11 pm

**** retards.
Starting with our **** ass coach who couldn't steer the wheel for a safe homecourt advantage, but he had to beg PG to play and even injure him more as the most important part of the season was coming closer.

Pathetic.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#53 » by acheema0 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:52 pm

CROklahoma wrote:**** retards.
Starting with our **** ass coach who couldn't steer the wheel for a safe homecourt advantage, but he had to beg PG to play and even injure him more as the most important part of the season was coming closer.

Pathetic.


Yeah can we not use that word? Also blaming Billy for a player injury is nonsensical. He got hurt, it sucks, I'm mad about it too but you don't have to make stuff up about it.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#54 » by SecondTake » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:52 pm

A few games ago Ferg mentioned how Russ & PG pulled him aside and told him that he has to be more aggressive to take some of the pressure off PG during his recovery. Seems like he's took it to heart.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#55 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:37 am

Dadouv47 wrote:yeah...not good. Tucker went all in against PG13's shoulder. PG13 wouldn't have been able to play 2 games in a series against the Rockets.


If they can't even confirm he's good to play in game 1 it is very serious and he could easily miss more games in this series than he plays if Portland gets physical with him.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#56 » by RunOKC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:02 am

All I know is losing this series will break me sooo I'm going to refuse to believe we are going to lose. OKC in 6 8-)

Hopefully can make my way to a game as well :D
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#57 » by RunOKC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:11 am

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Pillendreher wrote:
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this problem seems more effort related to me. in addition to making changes at halftime when necessary (e.g. v. portland in one of the games we hid westbrook on aminu after halftime) the team has a habit of starting games sloppily and engaging more when they are down. we all know that, i think.


Fair point. I don't think if that's "effort" though. Seems to me what you're describing is more like a lack of discipline and a lack of taking every game seriously. This also ties in nicely with what Erik Horne has been talking about these last two seasons: Not valuing possessions.

But at the same time it just makes no sense given the kind of discipline the first half's defense demanded.


nothing about our defensive drop-off makes any sense. discipline, effort, valuing possessions.. these have been things we've harped on about for years.

Maybe our defense isn't actually as good as we think at the start of each year. Teams adjusting to new rosters, rookies being integrated, finding rhythms etc. I don't really have any facts to back it up, only the eye test, but it seems plausible that our style of defense gets worse throughout the year due to other teams adjusting. Not to mention our schedule til January was the easiest in the NBA. Feel like we don't adjust our defense to the match up enough either.

Our offense also got a lot better after the beginning of the season itself.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#58 » by Pillendreher » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:47 am

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Lillard ranked fifth with 10.9 pick-and-roll ball-handler possessions per game. He scored 1.08 points per possession as a pick-and-roll ball-handler, the best mark among 43 players that averaged at least five ball-handler possessions.


Allowed just 0.79 points per possession, the league's second lowest rate, on pick-and-roll ball-handler possessions.


Being good at defending the Lillard PnR will be key this series.
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Re: The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland 

Post#59 » by Pillendreher » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:20 pm

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"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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