All Things Thunder Offseason Thread

[Xatticus]

Jonas Valanciunas to Washington for 3yrs/$30M. Would have been a cheap center option of Presti wanted more of a traditional big for matchups. Would have made a lot more sense than Hartenstein at $20M/yr, give or take.

Hartenstein was an elite defensive center last year. He would be a significant addition.

So you believe Chet should be the PF and Hartenstein should take over the starting C position and OKC should reinvent their offensive scheme? The other option is Hartenstein comes off the bench for the 16 minutes Chet is resting and OKC has two offensive playbooks, one for when Hartenstein is on the bench and other for when he is in the game. Hartenstein can not run the same offensive plays that Chet and Jaylin can at center.

I think you get good players and you let the coach figure out how to utilize them. Regardless of his fit with Holmgren, he fills a positional need. You can’t go into a season without redundancies or your season implodes with your first significant injury. Hartenstein had a massive impact for NY and most of that was from the bench. There will be plenty of minutes for Hartenstein and I’m confident that we will be a better team with him.

[Clav]

JV at MLE level is tradeable contract for Washington. I'm not a huge fan of his fit with our team due to his sinking 3pt shot, but he is at least willing to take those shots and has been effective there for a time. Will monitor the Wiz as their C/PF rotation changes during the year from contention to trade bait.

I think Hartenstein is our odds-on favorite to be signed here though I'm not sure he's the greatest fit either. At least he is a positive contributor without needing touches, and he is a strong rebounder.

Lauri is a pipedream now it seems.... If we stand pat and offer Joe 20M and Wiggins 12M a year each....

[Kizz Fastfists]

Mavs replace DJJ with Naji Marshall and are looking to do a S&T for Klay. Presti is going to have to make a significant move if he has any intentions of catching Minny and Dallas. Denver lost KCP and Reggie Jackson so far. I'm not sure if OKC would currently rank 3rd or 4th in the West with Denver dropping off. Giddey for Caruso was an upgrade, but Minny and Dallas have made comparable moves to stay ahead so far. Klay to Dallas leaves them as the clear favorite in the West, assuming they don't give up anything too significant in a S&T. Unsure how Much Klay would get, but Josh Green and Kleber seem like logical salary matching since they just added Grimes who can replace Green.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Lauri is a pipedream now it seems.

Any legitimate upgrade that would move OKC to contender status was always a pipedream.

[Dadouv47]

I'm not a fan of the Hartenstein path because we lack a good PF more than anything BUT he's a very good player so you can't compare that with adding meh players like Jonas Valanciunas or Capela. Hartenstein fits the way OKC plays...I'm worried with the lack of shooting and how many minutes they can afford to use him because of Chet though.

[Clav]

Lauri is a pipedream now it seems.

Any legitimate upgrade that would move OKC to contender status was always a pipedream.

Nihilists unite...

[Devilanche]

I'm not a fan of the Hartenstein path because we lack a good PF more than anything BUT he's a very good player so you can't compare that with adding meh players like Jonas Valanciunas or Capela. Hartenstein fits the way OKC plays...I'm worried with the lack of shooting and how many minutes they can afford to use him because of Chet though.

Dream offseason is IH and Tobias Harris.
Will settle for either one but I think IH is the better player.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Nihilists unite...

Why? What's the point? Nothing matters anyway.

[Kizz Fastfists]

PG13 to the 76ers. Tobias Harris to Detroit. OKC could have had Tobias cheaper than Hartenstein and kept Chet at center and the 5-man out system intact. Lauri is expected to get moved so OKC could still move Dort+ for Lauri. Lauri as the 6th man would be great or they could leave Chet at center, keep the 5-man out system in place and force Hartenstein to stand at the 3pt line all alone ignored even more than Giddey.

[Dadouv47]

Dieng and Kenrich for DFS would be an overpay? He would be a bench player but can be useful.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Waiting to see what happens with Klay Thompson today. If he ends up in Dallas, as expected, OKC can't be done and think they are coming out of the West this year. They are still behind Minny and Dallas as it stands with their moved this off-season, although it appears all three passed Denver with their losses.

[Andre Roberstan]

Would Kyle Anderson or Nic Batum sign for the room exception? Still think the Thunder could use one more perimeter creator with size.

[Big nick]

Come on clay is washed up, he doesn't make dallas better. Also t looks like Denver is trading for rw that will degrade Denver. I heard this board calling for gafford at the trade deadline, so ih is just as good as him. People Said Sam wouldn't try to up grade our roster but he did let's give Sam some credit! Might not be perfect but we are much better and bigger. I still think we are better the the wolves and Denver and as good or better than dallas. Another plus is pg left making I think it's a swap with lac even better. I think we are the team to beat especially if we can stay healthy.

[Clav]

Hartenstein is a thunder player

[retrobro90]

Seems like it could be pretty realistic LAC misses the playoffs next year. Would give it at least a 50/50 chance with Grizzlies likely back in and young teams like Houston likely to make more moves. Utah and Portland probably the only guarantees for the lotto

[Devilanche]

PG13 to the 76ers. Tobias Harris to Detroit. OKC could have had Tobias cheaper than Hartenstein and kept Chet at center and the 5-man out system intact. Lauri is expected to get moved so OKC could still move Dort+ for Lauri. Lauri as the 6th man would be great or they could leave Chet at center, keep the 5-man out system in place and force Hartenstein to stand at the 3pt line all alone ignored even more than Giddey.

I think IH contributes more to winning than Tobias does.

[Devilanche]

Would Kyle Anderson or Nic Batum sign for the room exception? Still think the Thunder could use one more perimeter creator with size.

Batum would be good.
Kyle 3point shooting comes and goes.

[Clav]

Would Kyle Anderson or Nic Batum sign for the room exception? Still think the Thunder could use one more perimeter creator with size.

Batum would be good.
Kyle 3point shooting comes and goes.

Batum just signed with the Clippers, but Anderson... I like his game but he is not a shooter, we wouldn't want to pair him with Hartenstein either.

[retrobro90]

Nobody left on the FA board I'm crazy about now that Batum is gone tbh. Would rather roll that room exception into the season as a TPE and give us more flexibility at the deadline. Possible they'll end up giving Ajay a guarantee too depending on how they evaluate his SL performance

[RingoKid]

Steven Adams owns Isaiah Hartenstein in head to head matchups...

https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/steven_adams_vs_isaiah_hartenstein.htm

Just sayin