2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#401 » by Balkman32 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:11 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I'm cool with it. I don't know that dort is better, but I'm pretty sure he's not worse

He's also available, something Ferguson hasn't been up to this point so far.

Let say we can make a trade and give Gallo, Ferguson and maybe a pick what can we get?!


There are a couple of issues here.

First, you are selling Ferguson at his lowest point and he is only 21.
Ferguson hasn't played in 6 games, and the Thunder only have 3 games left until the deadline.
You probably have to take on a bad contract.
Dealing two starters will probably hurt more than it will help.

I think they really want to concentrate on dealing Roberson and a pick for a guy making under $10, then wait and see what they buy out market could bring. Guys like Langston Galloway, Jae Crowder & Tomas Satoransky make sense for this team.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#402 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:19 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:He's also available, something Ferguson hasn't been up to this point so far.

Let say we can make a trade and give Gallo, Ferguson and maybe a pick what can we get?!


There are a couple of issues here.

First, you are selling Ferguson at his lowest point and he is only 21.
Ferguson hasn't played in 6 games, and the Thunder only have 3 games left until the deadline.
You probably have to take on a bad contract.
Dealing two starters will probably hurt more than it will help.

I think they really want to concentrate on dealing Roberson and a pick for a guy making under $10, then wait and see what they buy out market could bring. Guys like Langston Galloway, Jae Crowder & Tomas Satoransky make sense for this team.


Guess it all depends on what you are looking for (improving your roster or getting a young player for the future).

Agree that the timing to trade Ferguson is terrible. His trade value was already low but now...

But thinking about what we could get by trading Gallo + Denver 1st to improve our future sounds fair. A guy like Thybulle comes to my mind but then we would have to take a terrible contract in exchange.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#403 » by Balkman32 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:26 pm

I think the only way we get Thybulle is he would have to come with Horford. I don't think Philly deals Thybulle, he could end up being a key cog moving forward. Philly needs to figure out who they want and need to be. If they are going to keep Embiid and Simmons together they really don't need Horford.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#404 » by psychpsych » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:10 pm

What do you think is more probable, Presti breaking up the team after showing they are worth young pieces/draft capital or using the draft capital they got in the trades to add to the core they already have?
CP3's and other older players are not going to higher offers than they have now.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#405 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:36 pm

psychpsych wrote:What do you think is more probable, Presti breaking up the team after showing they are worth young pieces/draft capital or using the draft capital they got in the trades to add to the core they already have?
CP3's and other older players are not going to higher offers than they have now.


I think trading some player(s) for real assets is Presti n°1 option, but it all depends on what other teams are offering/willing to do. Since it appears like no team is willing to give up a lot for some of our players, I guess the second option is the most probable.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#406 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:55 pm

At this point I think it's most likely we make a small move to get under the tax or a Randy Foye level move to "upgrade" the roster. I would be more surprised if we actually move a major piece. I think Presti is willing to do so but it seems like teams are foolishly being cheap in a wide open year.
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Post#407 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:34 pm

Only picks in play are 2020 picks. Unless, there is a game changer available.

I think/ hope the major parts of this team stay together. Hopefully with an upgrade to the roster.
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Post#408 » by thor19 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:31 pm

The only player I will trade is Gallinari and is because he will be a free agent and maybe dont sign here, next week maybe we see some trades, would you make a gallinari for hayward trade ? We get depper in the tax
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Post#409 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:59 pm

thor19 wrote:The only player I will trade is Gallinari and is because he will be a free agent and maybe dont sign here, next week maybe we see some trades, would you make a gallinari for hayward trade ? We get depper in the tax


If the Thunder add Roberson it gets close, the C's could then send him elsewhere and get another asset. I would do a Gallo for Hayward deal. But, I would want a FRP to do so.

I think the Thunder can get value in a S&T with Gallo in the off season and I think its a risk well worth taking. Especially because he makes it easier for CP3 and Schroder. Two guys that have re-imaged their value in the league, and I for one would like to keep that image for them.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#410 » by thor19 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:57 pm

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thor19 wrote:The only player I will trade is Gallinari and is because he will be a free agent and maybe dont sign here, next week maybe we see some trades, would you make a gallinari for hayward trade ? We get depper in the tax


If the Thunder add Roberson it gets close, the C's could then send him elsewhere and get another asset. I would do a Gallo for Hayward deal. But, I would want a FRP to do so.

I think the Thunder can get value in a S&T with Gallo in the off season and I think its a risk well worth taking. Especially because he makes it easier for CP3 and Schroder. Two guys that have re-imaged their value in the league, and I for one would like to keep that image for them.

I know I dont get mad if we dont trade him, and thata the reason I say someone like hayward he is younger and have some of the same skills
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#411 » by Dn4sty » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:45 am

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Does something like this stat change anyone’s mind on what should be done at the deadline?

The biggest needs seem to be bigger wings and backup PF. I think any of the following players are obtainable (some easier than others)

Covington
Bogdan
Bjelica
Lonnie Walker
Saric
Mikal Bridges
Beasley
Bertans
Ross
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#412 » by getrichordie » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:43 am

Does anyone else see the possibility of the Clippers being interested in Adams? Adams has playoff experience and has chemistry with PG. Presti looks to get under the tax and treat Adams right by shipping him to a contender.

If we plan on contending, I'm having a hard time seeing any big splashes. Maybe we try to go and get an Ariza to give us a puncher's chance or hell, I'd even roll the dice on a Waiters if the price is right. Donovan did build some good rapport with him while he was here. Covington would be my pick for a big due to his versatility. We are going to need help up front on defense.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#413 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:29 am

Dn4sty wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

Does something like this stat change anyone’s mind on what should be done at the deadline?

The biggest needs seem to be bigger wings and backup PF. I think any of the following players are obtainable (some easier than others)

Covington
Bogdan
Bjelica
Lonnie Walker
Saric
Mikal Bridges
Beasley
Bertans
Ross

Lonnie walker? Are you just messing with me or have you read something?
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#414 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:33 am

getrichordie wrote:Does anyone else see the possibility of the Clippers being interested in Adams? Adams has playoff experience and has chemistry with PG. Presti looks to get under the tax and treat Adams right by shipping him to a contender.

If we plan on contending, I'm having a hard time seeing any big splashes. Maybe we try to go and get an Ariza to give us a puncher's chance or hell, I'd even roll the dice on a Waiters if the price is right. Donovan did build some good rapport with him while he was here. Covington would be my pick for a big due to his versatility. We are going to need help up front on defense.

I’m sure they would love Adams the player. His contract makes it very tough because they would need to send out multiple players. If Noel couldn’t veto a trade, he would be our most coveted player by other teams.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#415 » by slick_watts » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:18 pm

Dn4sty wrote:Does something like this stat change anyone’s mind on what should be done at the deadline?


no.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#416 » by Balkman32 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:21 pm

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getrichordie wrote:Does anyone else see the possibility of the Clippers being interested in Adams? Adams has playoff experience and has chemistry with PG. Presti looks to get under the tax and treat Adams right by shipping him to a contender.

If we plan on contending, I'm having a hard time seeing any big splashes. Maybe we try to go and get an Ariza to give us a puncher's chance or hell, I'd even roll the dice on a Waiters if the price is right. Donovan did build some good rapport with him while he was here. Covington would be my pick for a big due to his versatility. We are going to need help up front on defense.

I’m sure they would love Adams the player. His contract makes it very tough because they would need to send out multiple players. If Noel couldn’t veto a trade, he would be our most coveted player by other teams.


Also what are you getting from the Clippers for Steven? The 2020 #30th overall pick? Eh. I rather keep Steve and hope he signs a team friendly deal after this one expires.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#417 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 pm

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getrichordie wrote:Does anyone else see the possibility of the Clippers being interested in Adams? Adams has playoff experience and has chemistry with PG. Presti looks to get under the tax and treat Adams right by shipping him to a contender.

If we plan on contending, I'm having a hard time seeing any big splashes. Maybe we try to go and get an Ariza to give us a puncher's chance or hell, I'd even roll the dice on a Waiters if the price is right. Donovan did build some good rapport with him while he was here. Covington would be my pick for a big due to his versatility. We are going to need help up front on defense.

I’m sure they would love Adams the player. His contract makes it very tough because they would need to send out multiple players. If Noel couldn’t veto a trade, he would be our most coveted player by other teams.


I doubt Noel would veto a trade from a contender. He almost decided to leave when we still had PG13/Westbrook.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#418 » by spearsy23 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:30 pm

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Dn4sty wrote:Does something like this stat change anyone’s mind on what should be done at the deadline?


no.

Because we're winning a chip no matter what 8-)
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#419 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:57 pm

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getrichordie wrote:Does anyone else see the possibility of the Clippers being interested in Adams? Adams has playoff experience and has chemistry with PG. Presti looks to get under the tax and treat Adams right by shipping him to a contender.

If we plan on contending, I'm having a hard time seeing any big splashes. Maybe we try to go and get an Ariza to give us a puncher's chance or hell, I'd even roll the dice on a Waiters if the price is right. Donovan did build some good rapport with him while he was here. Covington would be my pick for a big due to his versatility. We are going to need help up front on defense.

I’m sure they would love Adams the player. His contract makes it very tough because they would need to send out multiple players. If Noel couldn’t veto a trade, he would be our most coveted player by other teams.


I doubt Noel would veto a trade from a contender. He almost decided to leave when we still had PG13/Westbrook.

I dont know what Noel would do, but I know what I would do if I were him. I would make decisions based on what could pay me the most money.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#420 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:53 pm

Per KOC. Got get him, Sam.
Lonnie Walker IV, wing: An athletic shot-creator who has shown major flashes with limited opportunities, scoring 28 against the Rockets and 18 against the Celtics. But Gregg Popovich values good decision-making and smart team defense, which are two areas where Walker currently falls short and the reason his playing time has been limited. He’s only 21, so there’s time for him to develop, but he is currently a long way from being a consistent contributor on a playoff team. If the Spurs want to trade for a veteran, he’d be a good piece to sell to a rebuilding team.
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