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Post#501 » by Balkman32 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:19 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Despite being a weak draft, seems like it's more difficult to move up than most people on RealGM think. Still hope we can move up to the Dallas pick. More would need to involve something crazy.


Well we can't say we don't have the assets to move up.

If you need a stretch 4 we can S&T you Gallo. Gallo can only sign outright with a handful of teams. OKC would be a willing participant.

If you need a 3&D wing: Oubre or Green. The Thunder have an elder statesman who has won back to back titles or a young gun who can be your starting wing for the next 5 years.

If you need a PG we have Rubio for sale. He only has 2 years $35 million left on his contract. He is 30. He can be your starter on a very good playoff team.

If you need a late first to grab a guy you didn't think would be there. The Thunder have you, for a future first.
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Post#502 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:25 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:Despite being a weak draft, seems like it's more difficult to move up than most people on RealGM think. Still hope we can move up to the Dallas pick. More would need to involve something crazy.


Well we can't say we don't have the assets to move up.

If you need a stretch 4 we can S&T you Gallo. Gallo can only sign outright with a handful of teams. OKC would be a willing participant.

If you need a 3&D wing: Oubre or Green. The Thunder have an elder statesman who has won back to back titles or a young gun who can be your starting wing for the next 5 years.

If you need a PG we have Rubio for sale. He only has 2 years $35 million left on his contract. He is 30. He can be your starter on a very good playoff team.

If you need a late first to grab a guy you didn't think would be there. The Thunder have you, for a future first.


We have some pieces for sure but if Schroeder is worth a late FRP, no team will give that much value for Oubre (or Green). Maybe we can go up some positons by trading Oubre or Green but that's it. Rubio is still a nice player but contenders are looking at Rondo/Rose first (and FVV for those who have cap space).

Can we already use a potential Gallo S&T to move up into the draft? Don't think so.
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Post#503 » by Balkman32 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:17 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:Despite being a weak draft, seems like it's more difficult to move up than most people on RealGM think. Still hope we can move up to the Dallas pick. More would need to involve something crazy.


Well we can't say we don't have the assets to move up.

If you need a stretch 4 we can S&T you Gallo. Gallo can only sign outright with a handful of teams. OKC would be a willing participant.

If you need a 3&D wing: Oubre or Green. The Thunder have an elder statesman who has won back to back titles or a young gun who can be your starting wing for the next 5 years.

If you need a PG we have Rubio for sale. He only has 2 years $35 million left on his contract. He is 30. He can be your starter on a very good playoff team.

If you need a late first to grab a guy you didn't think would be there. The Thunder have you, for a future first.


We have some pieces for sure but if Schroeder is worth a late FRP, no team will give that much value for Oubre (or Green). Maybe we can go up some positions by trading Oubre or Green but that's it. Rubio is still a nice player but contenders are looking at Rondo/Rose first (and FVV for those who have cap space).

Can we already use a potential Gallo S&T to move up into the draft? Don't think so.


Well Schroder was worth a late first and Green. Green is a winner that has won back to back championships. He didn't have a great bubble. But, does that really mean he fell off the cliff? I think the Thunder will be offering both him and Oubre. Green will be a little bit cheaper and they will be able to get value out of him especially when the Thunder have to take back a $15+ million dollar contract for a guy who is over the hill.

I don't see why not. The Bucks already signed and traded for Bogdan. The trade of the pick wouldn't happen until the new league year anyway. As long as Gallo would accept the deal I think a deal could get done. Miami at the #20 pick would be one to watch. Unless they want to trade their '27 FRP.
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Post#504 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:50 pm

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Well we can't say we don't have the assets to move up.

If you need a stretch 4 we can S&T you Gallo. Gallo can only sign outright with a handful of teams. OKC would be a willing participant.

If you need a 3&D wing: Oubre or Green. The Thunder have an elder statesman who has won back to back titles or a young gun who can be your starting wing for the next 5 years.

If you need a PG we have Rubio for sale. He only has 2 years $35 million left on his contract. He is 30. He can be your starter on a very good playoff team.

If you need a late first to grab a guy you didn't think would be there. The Thunder have you, for a future first.


We have some pieces for sure but if Schroeder is worth a late FRP, no team will give that much value for Oubre (or Green). Maybe we can go up some positions by trading Oubre or Green but that's it. Rubio is still a nice player but contenders are looking at Rondo/Rose first (and FVV for those who have cap space).

Can we already use a potential Gallo S&T to move up into the draft? Don't think so.


Well Schroder was worth a late first and Green. Green is a winner that has won back to back championships. He didn't have a great bubble. But, does that really mean he fell off the cliff? I think the Thunder will be offering both him and Oubre. Green will be a little bit cheaper and they will be able to get value out of him especially when the Thunder have to take back a $15+ million dollar contract for a guy who is over the hill.



I don't see why not. The Bucks already signed and traded for Bogdan. The trade of the pick wouldn't happen until the new league year anyway. As long as Gallo would accept the deal I think a deal could get done. Miami at the #20 pick would be one to watch. Unless they want to trade their '27 FRP.


I don't think we have the right pieces for GSW and after that I only see Dallas willing to take an expiring to improve for next season (looks like Boston is trying to move up in the draft).

So yeah Danny Green to Dallas sounds like the obvious move that would make sense for both teams. Maybe a pick swap with Miami...

I think we will have to really overpay to get a top 15 pick (not sure if it's worth it).
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Post#506 » by Balkman32 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:29 pm

There is no need to force it. I think no deals is ok. I would be just fine to wait till 25 and 28 and take the BPA.

Guys like Poku, Maledon, Bolmaro, Tillman, Prichard, & Winston are all guys could be selected at the end of the first round.

Guys like Oubre, Green & Rubio can all be taken into the season and flipped by the deadline. Teams could get needy at the deadline and be willing to over pay. These guys are all worth first round picks and they might even be able to flip one of these guys for a player and a first then rehab that players value
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Post#507 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:41 pm

Balkman32 wrote:There is no need to force it. I think no deals is ok. I would be just fine to wait till 25 and 28 and take the BPA.

Guys like Poku, Maledon, Bolmaro, Tillman, Prichard, & Winston are all guys could be selected at the end of the first round.

Guys like Oubre, Green & Rubio can all be taken into the season and flipped by the deadline. Teams could get needy at the deadline and be willing to over pay. These guys are all worth first round picks and they might even be able to flip one of these guys for a player and a first then rehab that players value


Sure. No reason to make a bad deal.

Don't think Oubre/Green/Rubio are all worth a FRP though. We got a late FRP for Schroeder and we couldn't move Gallo. We probably may get a FRP for Oubre. A bit of a long shot for Green but who knows.
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Post#508 » by mr570 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:18 pm

Would rather Adams + 25 + 28 for Hayward and 14. I mean... Celtics are kidding themselves if they think they can get into top 3 of the draft with what they have.
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Post#509 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:27 pm

mr570 wrote:Would rather Adams + 25 + 28 for Hayward and 14. I mean... Celtics are kidding themselves if they think they can get into top 3 of the draft with what they have.


Adams and Green for Hayward/FIller/#14... Green not a starter in Boston but would be a nice fit. They get a better Center and more depth.

They are looking at wings and trading to go up in draft though
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Post#510 » by mr570 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:30 pm

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mr570 wrote:Would rather Adams + 25 + 28 for Hayward and 14. I mean... Celtics are kidding themselves if they think they can get into top 3 of the draft with what they have.


Adams and Green for Hayward/FIller/#14... Green not a starter in Boston but would be a nice fit. They get a better Center and more depth.

They are looking at wings and trading to go up in draft though

Yeah and I don't understand it. Ainge is very greedy. Only thing I can see is Houston told them "get x player and give us x assets and Harden is yours" otherwise the aggressive move into top of the lottery of a weak draft makes no sense.
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Post#511 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:31 pm

What a Gallo S&T to Miami would look like? Gallo for Olynyk and pick swap?
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Post#512 » by jake_swivel » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:33 pm

I don’t have any predictions, but I’m hopeful that if there are any moves tonight, it’s for future assets or young players already in the league. I totally get draft-fever. It’s one of the funnest times of the year. And almost any other year I’d be psyched to trade up. This just doesn’t seem like the draft for it, though.
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Post#513 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:48 pm

I think a realistic hope is this is a year that we get a role player or two from the draft. If we can find our own home grown 3&D guy, I would be happy. Get the team ready for Cade to come in and hit the ground running.
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Post#514 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:56 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:What a Gallo S&T to Miami would look like? Gallo for Olynyk and pick swap?

I had seen discussion about removing protections on 2023 pick.
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Post#515 » by Balkman32 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:56 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:What a Gallo S&T to Miami would look like? Gallo for Olynyk and pick swap?


I think its a FRP. Right now we are guaranteed 2 FRP's from them in '21 and '23 (becomes unprotected in '26). There is no reason to change the way its written unless we are guaranteed a 3rd FRP. Maybe its something like we trade them back their first 23 and they send us '25 and '27 unprotected & then a swap in '23.

Word was Gallo was looking at 2 year deals but I think it has to be a 3 year deal for a S&T.
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Post#516 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:00 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:What a Gallo S&T to Miami would look like? Gallo for Olynyk and pick swap?

I had seen discussion about removing protections on 2023 pick.


Not sure it's worth it. Odds of Miami contending in 2023 are sky high. Think Presti will prefer to save money.

Don't think we can get much from Gallo in a S&T but at least a pick swap for tonight's draft sounds fair
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Post#518 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:03 pm

So much for wanting to sign with a contender.

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Post#519 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:23 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:So much for wanting to sign with a contender.

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S&T Gallo and 1478 FRP for John Collins ;)
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Post#520 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:25 pm

Seriously speaking though, not many contenders are able to sign Gallo on a decent deal. Miami could give him something decent for one year only.

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