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Post#541 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:16 pm

I LOVE reading Jake Fischer. He tells you the most likely outcome but also that everything is possible...perfect way for not being wrong ever. Such a shame he knew OKC was gonna draft Giddey last draft but didn't leak it. Would love him to tell us what is going to happen thursday.

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Post#542 » by Devilanche » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:26 pm

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Balkman32 wrote:Now how would you have felt if the Thunder took Gannis over Adams at the time.

I wonder where the Thunder had him on their draft board.

Whoever Presti gets I will trust his selection.

We would have been dominant . More so if we had gotten beal for harden , or booker instead of Payne or traded up for Mobley .


I don't blame Presti for Mobley because we know we tried to move up and since he had Mobley #1 on his board, I think he made a pretty good offer to Cleveland (will never know the details but think Cleveland just made the right smart call on this)

Not blaming him for any of those I mentioned actually . More of reiterating that he does have the benefit that we should trust his judgement most of the time for a lotto pick .

Only Payne didn’t get an extension from us while green was traded for someone who was suppose to anchor our defense.
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Post#543 » by Devilanche » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:27 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I LOVE reading Jake Fischer. He tells you the most likely outcome but also that everything is possible...perfect way for not being wrong ever. Such a shame he knew OKC was gonna draft Giddey last draft but didn't leak it. Would love him to tell us what is going to happen thursday.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10039350-latest-nba-intel-the-divide-between-kyrie-irving-and-brooklyn

You can read on it on Friday at the earliest or probably before 2023 draft if it follows current pattern
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Post#544 » by Old Man Game » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:05 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Also, I’m ok with Chet peaking as the third best player on a championship team. That’s a valuable player. I can see Paulo and Ivey possibly having a higher ceiling. I like the odds of Chet becoming the third best player on a championship team more than I like Paulo or Ivey becoming the first or second player on a championship team.Overall, I don’t think it’s hard to see any of these top four guys becoming great or being a bust.

I'm only okay with this if third best player on a title team level of player is the best player taken in this draft outside of whoever Orlando takes. Think about what you're saying here. If Banchero/Ivey/etc. ends up being an all NBA type player while we ended up with an elite role player we're going to be extremely mad a few years from now.
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Post#545 » by EliteSmarts » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:45 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Also, I’m ok with Chet peaking as the third best player on a championship team. That’s a valuable player. I can see Paulo and Ivey possibly having a higher ceiling. I like the odds of Chet becoming the third best player on a championship team more than I like Paulo or Ivey becoming the first or second player on a championship team.Overall, I don’t think it’s hard to see any of these top four guys becoming great or being a bust.


unlikely we find a franchise player in this draft. My hope is to find an option #2 (already have one in SGA). Could a team with two legit options #2 and one option #3 in Giddey win a championship if surrounded by the right pieces? Not likely I guess but not impossible either. Could be enough if SGA improves to Tatum kind of level who's a borderline franchise player.

I think Paolo in this draft has best chance of being that while I see Jabari and Chet as key players on championship teams but def not the main guy.
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Post#546 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:25 pm

If Presti has Jabari & Chet starting at him for #2 what's the pick.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#547 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:29 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:If Presti has Jabari & Chet starting at him for #2 what's the pick.


nobody knows.

well maybe a handful of people in the world that works for Presti.
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Post#548 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:39 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Also, I’m ok with Chet peaking as the third best player on a championship team. That’s a valuable player. I can see Paulo and Ivey possibly having a higher ceiling. I like the odds of Chet becoming the third best player on a championship team more than I like Paulo or Ivey becoming the first or second player on a championship team.Overall, I don’t think it’s hard to see any of these top four guys becoming great or being a bust.

I'm only okay with this if third best player on a title team level of player is the best player taken in this draft outside of whoever Orlando takes. Think about what you're saying here. If Banchero/Ivey/etc. ends up being an all NBA type player while we ended up with an elite role player we're going to be extremely mad a few years from now.

I think drafting is enough of a crapshoot that I wouldn’t hold it against any GM in a draft like this. There isn’t one guy stands out head and shoulders above the rest like a Zion. Sam isn’t going to bat 1000 in the top 5 forever. If his miss still produces an all star, it’s forgivable. If Chet stays healthy, I don’t see him being a bust. I do have injury concerns.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#549 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:57 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Also, I’m ok with Chet peaking as the third best player on a championship team. That’s a valuable player. I can see Paulo and Ivey possibly having a higher ceiling. I like the odds of Chet becoming the third best player on a championship team more than I like Paulo or Ivey becoming the first or second player on a championship team.Overall, I don’t think it’s hard to see any of these top four guys becoming great or being a bust.

I'm only okay with this if third best player on a title team level of player is the best player taken in this draft outside of whoever Orlando takes. Think about what you're saying here. If Banchero/Ivey/etc. ends up being an all NBA type player while we ended up with an elite role player we're going to be extremely mad a few years from now.

I think drafting is enough of a crapshoot that I wouldn’t hold it against any GM in a draft like this. There isn’t one guy stands out head and shoulders above the rest like a Zion. Sam isn’t going to bat 1000 in the top 5 forever. If his miss still produces an all star, it’s forgivable. If Chet stays healthy, I don’t see him being a bust. I do have injury concerns.


if the others projected top 4 becomes good/great players and our pick a total bust (Bagley 2.0 or Wiseman 2.0) it's gonna be difficult not to blame Presti but you right that it's a very difficult/bad draft to pick at the top even if #2 is sweet.

He can miss with 2 but not 2 + 12. We need at least one good NBA player coming from this draft.
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Post#550 » by Devilanche » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:09 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:If Presti has Jabari & Chet starting at him for #2 what's the pick.

He drops to 4 to draft Ivey.
And then use the assets from 4 to move up from 12 and draft sharpe.








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Post#551 » by Old Man Game » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:35 pm

Yo, I think this Jaden Ivey trade up thing might actually happen. I just have been thinking, he literally said he could see himself in OKC. Ask yourself, why say that? Does he literally think he'd be taken at 2? If so, why not say something about Houston as well? No, he's heard the rumors about Sacto and Presti trying to trade up. He's trying to will it into happening. He knows he's mocked most often at 4. If we have both he and Chet at the end of the night I'm going to be really pumped you guys.
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Post#552 » by Big nick » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:40 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:If Presti has Jabari & Chet starting at him for #2 what's the pick.

He drops to 4 to draft Ivey.
And then use the assets from 4 to move up from 12 and draft sharpe.

I would for sure be ok with this.






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Post#553 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:50 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Yo, I think this Jaden Ivey trade up thing might actually happen. I just have been thinking, he literally said he could see himself in OKC. Ask yourself, why say that? Does he literally think he'd be taken at 2? If so, why not say something about Houston as well? No, he's heard the rumors about Sacto and Presti trying to trade up. He's trying to will it into happening. He knows he's mocked most often at 4. If we have both he and Chet at the end of the night I'm going to be really pumped you guys.


I really think it's very unlikely we get him. The gap between 12 to 4 is really big and there are MANY teams in a better spot than us trying to move up for Ivey. I would love to be wrong (even if we overpay a bit) but sounds crazy to me.

He also said he would be happy being picked by Detroit, New York and he has an history with the Pacers (something about his mother if I remember correctly).

That being said, if Presti has Ivey like #2 on his board, he could make a crazy offer that no team could beat.
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Post#554 » by Old Man Game » Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:34 am

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Old Man Game wrote:Yo, I think this Jaden Ivey trade up thing might actually happen. I just have been thinking, he literally said he could see himself in OKC. Ask yourself, why say that? Does he literally think he'd be taken at 2? If so, why not say something about Houston as well? No, he's heard the rumors about Sacto and Presti trying to trade up. He's trying to will it into happening. He knows he's mocked most often at 4. If we have both he and Chet at the end of the night I'm going to be really pumped you guys.


I really think it's very unlikely we get him. The gap between 12 to 4 is really big and there are MANY teams in a better spot than us trying to move up for Ivey. I would love to be wrong (even if we overpay a bit) but sounds crazy to me.

He also said he would be happy being picked by Detroit, New York and he has an history with the Pacers (something about his mother if I remember correctly).

That being said, if Presti has Ivey like #2 on his board, he could make a crazy offer that no team could beat.


There's something else to consider. A few weeks ago there was a rumor reported that SGA was starting to tire of the tanking. It was swept under the rug pretty quickly but just a moment, consider, what if that's true? If so, Presti may feel pressure to unload the war chest to make this thing happen.
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Post#555 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:44 am

Old Man Game wrote:
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Old Man Game wrote:Yo, I think this Jaden Ivey trade up thing might actually happen. I just have been thinking, he literally said he could see himself in OKC. Ask yourself, why say that? Does he literally think he'd be taken at 2? If so, why not say something about Houston as well? No, he's heard the rumors about Sacto and Presti trying to trade up. He's trying to will it into happening. He knows he's mocked most often at 4. If we have both he and Chet at the end of the night I'm going to be really pumped you guys.


I really think it's very unlikely we get him. The gap between 12 to 4 is really big and there are MANY teams in a better spot than us trying to move up for Ivey. I would love to be wrong (even if we overpay a bit) but sounds crazy to me.

He also said he would be happy being picked by Detroit, New York and he has an history with the Pacers (something about his mother if I remember correctly).

That being said, if Presti has Ivey like #2 on his board, he could make a crazy offer that no team could beat.


There's something else to consider. A few weeks ago there was a rumor reported that SGA was starting to tire of the tanking. It was swept under the rug pretty quickly but just a moment, consider, what if that's true? If so, Presti may feel pressure to unload the war chest to make this thing happen.


yeah that could definitely be a factor and I think it's fair to try to add as most young talent as soon as possible but u still gonna use those assets to overpay for Ivey only if u are super high on him (otherwise you move up less assets for ready NBA players like John Collins or u pay a significant price to get another lottery pick that is still way below Ivey's asking price).

Shai/Sharpe have a connection too and we obviously have a higher shot of moving up to draft him at 7 or 8. Don't like Sharpe as much as Ivey obviously but still worth it depending on the asking price and who might be left at #12.
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Post#556 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:11 am

Read on Twitter


FWIW

Stay away from Chet, Orlando. Feel like every top 3 team will get who they want if true.
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Post#557 » by EliteSmarts » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:22 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
Read on Twitter


FWIW

Stay away from Chet, Orlando. Feel like every top 3 team will get who they want if true.

I can't wait for draft night, should be fun.
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Post#558 » by Old Man Game » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:43 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
Read on Twitter


FWIW

Stay away from Chet, Orlando. Feel like every top 3 team will get who they want if true.


It's just so interesting. Lot sof smart basketball people think this guy is going to be really good but at the same time they can't quite explain him, because he doesn't really have a comp. The closest we get is Gobert with a better offensive game. Even that doesn't seem adequate.
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Post#559 » by Mr Thunder Nick » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:15 am

Nobody talks about Keegan Murray. He seems to be the most NBA ready player. High Basketball IQ an a very completely player.
Could be available at 6 . Seems more realistic then pick 4.
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Post#560 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:01 am

Mr Thunder Nick wrote:Nobody talks about Keegan Murray. He seems to be the most NBA ready player. High Basketball IQ an a very completely player.
Could be available at 6 . Seems more realistic then pick 4.

I’m fine with Murray as our second pick. I just don’t think he drops far enough and if we were to trade up, I think I’d expect someone like Ivey. Hopefully this time next year a more nba ready player like Murray is a better fit with the roster.
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