OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

Moderators: retrobro90, Dadouv47

User avatar
spearsy23
RealGM
Posts: 19,481
And1: 7,654
Joined: Jan 27, 2012
   

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#61 » by spearsy23 » Wed May 6, 2015 6:31 am

KD35Brah wrote:*snip*


Was just about to post this, almost guarantees Singler and Kanter are back.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
Marcus50
Junior
Posts: 417
And1: 85
Joined: May 12, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#62 » by Marcus50 » Wed May 6, 2015 5:16 pm

Pretty clear signal from Presti that this teams future will be built around KD Serge Russ and Kanter moving forward. That's a powerful starting lineup and with role players and rookie contracts making up the balance its not a bad call
User avatar
Grolgar
Junior
Posts: 250
And1: 176
Joined: Jul 09, 2012
 

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#63 » by Grolgar » Wed May 6, 2015 7:22 pm

Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?
User avatar
bondom34
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 66,716
And1: 50,290
Joined: Mar 01, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#64 » by bondom34 » Wed May 6, 2015 7:33 pm

Grolgar wrote:Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?

I'd rather Roberson start because I feel like he's best fit with the starters to let Russ rest on defense and his offense is covered by the others. As for the center, its a coin flip. I really would be up for anything there, I'm thinking they'll split minutes kinda even.
MyUniBroDavis wrote: he was like YALL PEOPLE WHO DOUBT ME WILL SEE YALLS STATS ARE WRONG I HAVE THE BIG BRAIN PLAYS MUCHO NASTY BIG BRAIN BIG CHUNGUS BRAIN YOU BOYS ON UR BBALL REFERENCE NO UNDERSTANDO
User avatar
Grolgar
Junior
Posts: 250
And1: 176
Joined: Jul 09, 2012
 

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#65 » by Grolgar » Thu May 7, 2015 3:18 am

I get the reasoning, but I guess I don't think Roberson should start every game. I think he needs to learn to play situationally. If the other team is starting Tony Wroten then why play Roberson? We know Roberson can become unplayable in certain playoff situations so why not use Robes situationally all season?
User avatar
bondom34
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 66,716
And1: 50,290
Joined: Mar 01, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#66 » by bondom34 » Thu May 7, 2015 3:35 am

Grolgar wrote:I get the reasoning, but I guess I don't think Roberson should start every game. I think he needs to learn to play situationally. If the other team is starting Tony Wroten then why play Roberson? We know Roberson can become unplayable in certain playoff situations so why not use Robes situationally all season?

I don't think he will be for sure, if he gets continual playing time his offense can easily become good enough, he's already a plus statistically speaking, and knows his role well. I'd rather Morrow as a sparkplug guy.
MyUniBroDavis wrote: he was like YALL PEOPLE WHO DOUBT ME WILL SEE YALLS STATS ARE WRONG I HAVE THE BIG BRAIN PLAYS MUCHO NASTY BIG BRAIN BIG CHUNGUS BRAIN YOU BOYS ON UR BBALL REFERENCE NO UNDERSTANDO
User avatar
spearsy23
RealGM
Posts: 19,481
And1: 7,654
Joined: Jan 27, 2012
   

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#67 » by spearsy23 » Thu May 7, 2015 4:45 am

Grolgar wrote:I get the reasoning, but I guess I don't think Roberson should start every game. I think he needs to learn to play situationally. If the other team is starting Tony Wroten then why play Roberson? We know Roberson can become unplayable in certain playoff situations so why not use Robes situationally all season?

When will Roberson be unplayable? It's not like he's a horrible offensive player. If Tony Wroten is the best perimeter player on the other team then you put Robes on him and let him shut Wroten down. You can only score so many points, why put another player out there with Durant, Russ, Serge and Kanter who needs to score to justify minutes? Why not play that guy with the second unit where points and a system are needed?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
User avatar
bondom34
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 66,716
And1: 50,290
Joined: Mar 01, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#68 » by bondom34 » Thu May 7, 2015 12:38 pm

As weird as it sounds, I'd debate trading back if Oubre wasn't available. I've talked about a pick swap w/ Toronto where they get PJ and Dion, OKC gets Ross, and they swap 14 for 20, some seem to like it on the trade board, others meh. Ross can at least shoot some and might be a solid KD backup if Oubre's not there.
MyUniBroDavis wrote: he was like YALL PEOPLE WHO DOUBT ME WILL SEE YALLS STATS ARE WRONG I HAVE THE BIG BRAIN PLAYS MUCHO NASTY BIG BRAIN BIG CHUNGUS BRAIN YOU BOYS ON UR BBALL REFERENCE NO UNDERSTANDO
Marcus50
Junior
Posts: 417
And1: 85
Joined: May 12, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#69 » by Marcus50 » Thu May 7, 2015 6:52 pm

Grolgar wrote:Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?


I think that is our best starting lineup but Kanter's defense will kill us in the 2nd lineup.

The big question in my mind is why does okc think it can fix Kanter's defense when the Jazz spent 4 years and got nowhere?
User avatar
spearsy23
RealGM
Posts: 19,481
And1: 7,654
Joined: Jan 27, 2012
   

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#70 » by spearsy23 » Thu May 7, 2015 6:54 pm

bondom34 wrote:As weird as it sounds, I'd debate trading back if Oubre wasn't available. I've talked about a pick swap w/ Toronto where they get PJ and Dion, OKC gets Ross, and they swap 14 for 20, some seem to like it on the trade board, others meh. Ross can at least shoot some and might be a solid KD backup if Oubre's not there.

It's not bad, but I'd rather just take BPA and play Lamb. Maybe I'm still irrationally high on him or I just like Ross less than most, but I don't think he's much of an upgrade. Supposedly the Spurs are going to shake up their roster, if Oubre's gone I wonder if Danny Green is available...
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
User avatar
spearsy23
RealGM
Posts: 19,481
And1: 7,654
Joined: Jan 27, 2012
   

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#71 » by spearsy23 » Thu May 7, 2015 6:58 pm

Marcus50 wrote:
Grolgar wrote:Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?


I think that is our best starting lineup but Kanter's defense will kill us in the 2nd lineup.

The big question in my mind is why does okc think it can fix Kanter's defense when the Jazz spent 4 years and got nowhere?

Because he's 23 and big men take a while to figure out NBA defense. Especially ones that aren't uber athletic. Besides, it's not like we expect him to be Marc Gasol, he just has to be slightly below average. Even if he stays terribad he scores so well that having him play 24 minutes per night isn't a bad thing. He was putting up 18/10 in well under 30 minutes, that's insane production.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
KD35Brah
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,398
And1: 3,024
Joined: May 11, 2014

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#72 » by KD35Brah » Thu May 7, 2015 7:32 pm

Marcus50 wrote:
Grolgar wrote:Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?


I think that is our best starting lineup but Kanter's defense will kill us in the 2nd lineup.

The big question in my mind is why does okc think it can fix Kanter's defense when the Jazz spent 4 years and got nowhere?

He already said he is going to be working on his defense this summer and he is going to play on his national team(they most likely demand defense like our Team USA).

Donovan and a defensive assistant will most likely work with him.

Donovan has a lot of plays for post up bigs too, which Kanter is perfect for.
Marcus50
Junior
Posts: 417
And1: 85
Joined: May 12, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#73 » by Marcus50 » Thu May 7, 2015 9:13 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Marcus50 wrote:
Grolgar wrote:Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?


I think that is our best starting lineup but Kanter's defense will kill us in the 2nd lineup.

The big question in my mind is why does okc think it can fix Kanter's defense when the Jazz spent 4 years and got nowhere?

Because he's 23 and big men take a while to figure out NBA defense. Especially ones that aren't uber athletic. Besides, it's not like we expect him to be Marc Gasol, he just has to be slightly below average. Even if he stays terribad he scores so well that having him play 24 minutes per night isn't a bad thing. He was putting up 18/10 in well under 30 minutes, that's insane production.


Look don't gete wrong I would love for Kanter to be a great signing but each year he has said he will work on his defense and after 4 years he is the third worst Centre on defensive metrics. All I saying is okc must think the can achieve some defensive output that the Jazz couldn't.

Remember with Kanter's scoring comes a very porous defense that so far is producing a net negative overall.contribution despite the impressive scoring numbers.

We shall see but it's a risky signing given the $ it's going to take. If you look at the Jazz site there is not a lot of love for the big man
User avatar
kd 35
Senior
Posts: 526
And1: 605
Joined: May 15, 2014
 

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#74 » by kd 35 » Fri May 8, 2015 1:58 am

Some of you will probably hate these but I thought I'd share my uniform concepts with you guys - since it is the offseason and all. :P

Image

Image

Image

Image
Kizz Fastfists
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,432
And1: 1,865
Joined: Jun 05, 2014
   

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#75 » by Kizz Fastfists » Fri May 8, 2015 2:16 am

I like what you did with the OKC. I'm not a fan of the stripe you have down the side. It looks like an indian rug design to me and while I understand how that would tie in with Oklahoma I'm just not feeling it on the jerseys. I don't like the yellow one it makes me think of Michigan not OKC. I think I understand what you were going for and they don't look bad, but they are not my style. If the stripe was solid or solid with a single colored row of diamonds I'd probably like it better.
"The secret to success is to offend the greatest number of people." -George Bernard Shaw
User avatar
bondom34
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 66,716
And1: 50,290
Joined: Mar 01, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#76 » by bondom34 » Fri May 8, 2015 3:48 am

The OKC is cool, and I actually really like the black ones (though I admit I'm always a fan of black jerseys pretty much). Good stuff!
MyUniBroDavis wrote: he was like YALL PEOPLE WHO DOUBT ME WILL SEE YALLS STATS ARE WRONG I HAVE THE BIG BRAIN PLAYS MUCHO NASTY BIG BRAIN BIG CHUNGUS BRAIN YOU BOYS ON UR BBALL REFERENCE NO UNDERSTANDO
KD35Brah
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,398
And1: 3,024
Joined: May 11, 2014

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#77 » by KD35Brah » Fri May 8, 2015 5:00 am

Looks like we got one assistant down.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry/status/596529600693305344[/tweet]

Is he any good?
User avatar
bondom34
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 66,716
And1: 50,290
Joined: Mar 01, 2013

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#78 » by bondom34 » Fri May 8, 2015 5:15 am

KD35Brah wrote:Looks like we got one assistant down.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry/status/596529600693305344[/tweet]

Is he any good?

He was Alabam's HC for a few years as well as VCU. Don't know hos style but he had some god teams given they weren't at basketball schools (VCU wasn't yet).
MyUniBroDavis wrote: he was like YALL PEOPLE WHO DOUBT ME WILL SEE YALLS STATS ARE WRONG I HAVE THE BIG BRAIN PLAYS MUCHO NASTY BIG BRAIN BIG CHUNGUS BRAIN YOU BOYS ON UR BBALL REFERENCE NO UNDERSTANDO
User avatar
Zagor
Junior
Posts: 381
And1: 168
Joined: Jun 02, 2014
     

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#79 » by Zagor » Fri May 8, 2015 9:42 am

That was expected,thing that he will bring some of his familiar faces.
Grant was his assistant for 10 years at UF according to wikipedia. I think the most important assistant will come as the last.
That defensive guru and also experienced man in nba stuff.

@kd 35
I like that black jersey,OKC logo is attractive....but I don't like yellow jersey and that stripes.
Franchise needs new logo,that needs to be priority if they want to change something.
User avatar
spearsy23
RealGM
Posts: 19,481
And1: 7,654
Joined: Jan 27, 2012
   

Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#80 » by spearsy23 » Fri May 8, 2015 10:28 am

I don't get why people hate our jerseys so much, I'm quite fond of them.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.

Return to Oklahoma City Thunder