2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[Pillendreher]

OK so I came up with this random trade and wanted to see what everybody thought.
Here goes:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zx7jm5g

Two team deal: Dallas/OKC
Dallas sends: Deron Williams, Justin Anderson
Dallas Receives: Anthony Morrow, Cameron Payne

OKC sends: Cameron Payne, Anthony Morrow
OKC receives: Justin Anderson, Deron Williams

Reasoning behind this trade: Dallas has no incentive to try to make a push this year and make their draft pick worse. Deron Williams' contract expires at the end of the year and while Justin Anderson has promise, he is the third string small forward behind Wesley Matthews and Finney Smith. After the season they will have Seth Curry and JJ Barea under contract at the point. Barea is getting older and has injury concerns. Maybe Cameron could be of some use. We will bring in a promising young player at a position of need and Deron Williams can either fill the back up point guard role or start at the 2. (I don't know if he would love that role, but I guess we can cross that bridge when we come to it) He could certainly be a good player to have and since he expires at the end of the year, the team has flexibility regarding what to do this offseason. I would have put Singler with Payne, but I don't know if Dallas would go for that. Morrow also gets more court time in a contract year to up his value.

Depth Chart after trade:
Russ/Williams/Semaj Potential End of game lineup: Russ/Victor/Anderson/Andre/Adams
Andre/Oladipo/Abrines
Anderson/Huestis/Singler
Domantas/Grant/Lauvergne/Collison
Adams/Kanter

You can start still Victor and bring Justin Anderson off the bench and have Deron or Victor start alongside Russell.

Anyway, what do you guys think ? Its not a very big move, but I don't think a big move is coming. Justin Anderson is not a stellar shooter, but he can at least play defense and he can shoot free throws.

Yes. Although I would look to include Matthews.

EDIT: I liked what I saw from Anderson against us very much. The kid plays with a certain fire. You can't teach that.

[ThunderBolt]

Cuban won't trade with okc.

[Pillendreher]

Cuban won't trade with okc.

Cuban is a self-centered fool.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Cuban won't trade with okc.

Cuban would trade with OKC if he thought it helped him.

[SD2042]

Keep in mind that Presti did say when Russ was extended that if Russ hadn't signed the extension he would have been sent to Boston instead. The only thing that has changed is Russ has more trade value from the extension. OKC isn't in a better position to reload. Boston still has all their assets. Unless some unknown variable has changed Presti still knows the best course of action is to trade Russ to Boston and rebuild.

The new CBA.

Also, Russ said he never intended to leave, and I don't remember seeing that about Boston. Russ intended on staying, and Presti intended on keeping him.

Also, Boston's assets aren't that great to me, 2 draft picks and another wing who can't shoot.

And OKC is 10000 percent in a better position to reload. Boston's kinda in trouble if they don't pull a trade soon. Not trouble, but thost "assets" keep losing value. And they clearly weren't that valued around the league to start or some would have been traded.

With the Celtics, I wonder at times has Ainge become a victim of his own success. What I mean is that since he struck at opportunities to acquire KG and Ray Allen 10yrs ago to help Pierce out, he's been seeking out the next big deal to take him back to the top once again. I think that teams are concern about making the Celts another big threat in the Eastern Conference. Ainge might get this next opportunity to improve his team and all, but I'm not entirely convince it will be like the same set of opportunities he took his chances on 10 years prior.

Another question to the Thunder Nation

What are your thoughts on Carmelo Anthony and his chances to fit the roster?

Stats wise, he would be of help. My concerns however is that being the Thunder are a young team coming into their prime, Melo's lack of leadership and being on the wrong side of 30 may pose a threat to the Thunder's maturity and perhaps be seen as a short term plan rather than a long term solution.

[oken]

I would love to see Deron playing for OKC, he is my man since he came to play in Turkey during NBA lockout and scored 50 points in a game but he had too many personal issues (such as his daughter's eye cancer and his son's autism) and he now just seems to be waiting for his retirement in his hometown.

[bondom34]

Keep in mind that Presti did say when Russ was extended that if Russ hadn't signed the extension he would have been sent to Boston instead. The only thing that has changed is Russ has more trade value from the extension. OKC isn't in a better position to reload. Boston still has all their assets. Unless some unknown variable has changed Presti still knows the best course of action is to trade Russ to Boston and rebuild.

The new CBA.

Also, Russ said he never intended to leave, and I don't remember seeing that about Boston. Russ intended on staying, and Presti intended on keeping him.

Also, Boston's assets aren't that great to me, 2 draft picks and another wing who can't shoot.

And OKC is 10000 percent in a better position to reload. Boston's kinda in trouble if they don't pull a trade soon. Not trouble, but thost "assets" keep losing value. And they clearly weren't that valued around the league to start or some would have been traded.

With the Celtics, I wonder at times has Ainge become a victim of his own success. What I mean is that since he struck at opportunities to acquire KG and Ray Allen 10yrs ago to help Pierce out, he's been seeking out the next big deal to take him back to the top once again. I think that teams are concern about making the Celts another big threat in the Eastern Conference. Ainge might get this next opportunity to improve his team and all, but I'm not entirely convince it will be like the same set of opportunities he took his chances on 10 years prior.

Another question to the Thunder Nation

What are your thoughts on Carmelo Anthony and his chances to fit the roster?

Stats wise, he would be of help. My concerns however is that being the Thunder are a young team coming into their prime, Melo's lack of leadership and being on the wrong side of 30 may pose a threat to the Thunder's maturity and perhaps be seen as a short term plan rather than a long term solution.

I'd have the same concerns, as well as big salary issues. He's got a huge trade kicker and it comes to like 30 million a year when you factor that in I believe, it was posted on the Knicks board last week.

At his age and current level of play, I wouldn't use any assets for him personally.

[bondom34]

Also Cuban has traded with OKC.

[SD2042]

Also Cuban has traded with OKC.

I don't remember Cuban's link with OKC. Refresh my memory.

[bondom34]

Also Cuban has traded with OKC.

I don't remember Cuban's link with OKC. Refresh my memory.

Roddy Beubuois (Sp.) for Mullens.

[Andre Roberstan]

I cosign the Melo feeling for sure. He'd be a useful player, but for one he won't come here, and for two I don't think it's worth having him on that contract while the rest of the team is as young as it is. It's an anti-Presti move.

[SD2042]

Also Cuban has traded with OKC.

I don't remember Cuban's link with OKC. Refresh my memory.

Roddy Beubuois (Sp.) for Mullens.

Thx! No wonder I didn't remember. Small trade. Likely financial purposes.

[Andre Roberstan]

One of the DailyThunder guys is saying that one of the players whose name has come up in trade rumors a bit is selling their house. May be nothing, and I haven't corroborated yet. Will poke at it a bit tonight and tomorrow to see if I can find anything.

[bondom34]

One of the DailyThunder guys is saying that one of the players whose name has come up in trade rumors a bit is selling their house. May be nothing, and I haven't corroborated yet. Will poke at it a bit tonight and tomorrow to see if I can find anything.

He was lying.

http://fyre.it/NZd06U7y.4

[Andre Roberstan]

One of the DailyThunder guys is saying that one of the players whose name has come up in trade rumors a bit is selling their house. May be nothing, and I haven't corroborated yet. Will poke at it a bit tonight and tomorrow to see if I can find anything.

He was lying.

http://fyre.it/NZd06U7y.4

I don't think he was.

OKCJim looked up real estate stuff and found out that Russ's house was on the market, but his wife's pregnant and they're probably moving to something more conducive. That seems as good an explanation as any.

EDIT: So that was an old posting apparently and it's off. DT is still doing its Sherlock thing, though. Greeed says the one he saw wasn't Russ.

Who knows. Maybe someone wants to move to Gallardia or Deep Deuce.

[bondom34]

One of the DailyThunder guys is saying that one of the players whose name has come up in trade rumors a bit is selling their house. May be nothing, and I haven't corroborated yet. Will poke at it a bit tonight and tomorrow to see if I can find anything.

He was lying.

http://fyre.it/NZd06U7y.4

I don't think he was.

OKCJim looked up real estate stuff and found out that Russ's house was on the market, but his wife's pregnant and they're probably moving to something more conducive. That seems as good an explanation as any.

Yeah, scrap that.

http://fyre.it/HOt8jeTg.4

He did say its 100 percent not Russ.

And I don't see it being Adams.

[Andre Roberstan]

He was lying.

http://fyre.it/NZd06U7y.4

I don't think he was.

OKCJim looked up real estate stuff and found out that Russ's house was on the market, but his wife's pregnant and they're probably moving to something more conducive. That seems as good an explanation as any.

Yeah, scrap that.

http://fyre.it/HOt8jeTg.4

He did say its 100 percent not Russ.

And I don't see it being Adams.

He also said it was someone well-liked (on DT). Which to me means Abrines, Sabonis, Oladipo or Roberson, with Sabonis being the most likely.

[Pillendreher]

I don't think he was.

OKCJim looked up real estate stuff and found out that Russ's house was on the market, but his wife's pregnant and they're probably moving to something more conducive. That seems as good an explanation as any.

Yeah, scrap that.

http://fyre.it/HOt8jeTg.4

He did say its 100 percent not Russ.

And I don't see it being Adams.

He also said it was someone well-liked (on DT). Which to me means Abrines, Sabonis, Oladipo or Roberson, with Sabonis being the most likely.

http://dailythunder.com/monday-bolts-1-23-17/#lf-content=182955365:639899712

'Popular choice'.

[Andre Roberstan]

Yeah, scrap that.

http://fyre.it/HOt8jeTg.4

He did say its 100 percent not Russ.

And I don't see it being Adams.

He also said it was someone well-liked (on DT). Which to me means Abrines, Sabonis, Oladipo or Roberson, with Sabonis being the most likely.

http://dailythunder.com/monday-bolts-1-23-17/#lf-content=182955365:639899712

'Popular choice'.

It was later. He's probably trolling, but eh. I'll take any scrap I can get in trade season.

[spearsy23]

Keep in mind that Presti did say when Russ was extended that if Russ hadn't signed the extension he would have been sent to Boston instead. The only thing that has changed is Russ has more trade value from the extension. OKC isn't in a better position to reload. Boston still has all their assets. Unless some unknown variable has changed Presti still knows the best course of action is to trade Russ to Boston and rebuild.

The new CBA.

Also, Russ said he never intended to leave, and I don't remember seeing that about Boston. Russ intended on staying, and Presti intended on keeping him.

Also, Boston's assets aren't that great to me, 2 draft picks and another wing who can't shoot.

And OKC is 10000 percent in a better position to reload. Boston's kinda in trouble if they don't pull a trade soon. Not trouble, but thost "assets" keep losing value. And they clearly weren't that valued around the league to start or some would have been traded.

Boston's assets are not losing value, they'll be at their peak value on draft night this year when they have a concrete top three pick, a likely top three pick, Brown, and Bradley/Crowder. Boston is in the best position in the league of any team not contending for a championship. They have app the benefits of tanking while also buying a top playoff seed.