10/22 - POSTGAME | Minnesota Timberwolves (115) - (113) Oklahoma City Thunder

spearsy23 · Post #61 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:56 am

bondom34 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Knrstz wrote: Did I miss something? Is this the first time we are hearing about this?

So yeah, like I said...is this the first time we’ve heard about this or did I just miss it? This explains a lot.

Same here. No clue.

Tbf there's a 50/50 chance Billy just doesn't know the difference between Dre and Pat.

Old Man Game · Post #62 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:57 am

Knrstz wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Right now we are shooting 43% from the field, 32% from deep and 66% from the ft line. No reason for those numbers to keep that low. We may have not developed a good offensive system but we missed so many open shots since opening night.

Not developing a good offensive system and missing shots are not exclusive. Wide open or not, when there is not flow to the offense it hurts everyone.

Yeah they've had a lot of shots but there haven't really been a ton of them that have been open and been in catch-and-shoot situations. There's been a lot of long ISO jumpers and post UPS from 20 ft & just stupid s*** that you don't expect to make.

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Post #63 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:00 am

Well, in the end I believe it's better to struggle sooner than later. Our ''big 3'' want to succeed and they like each other, so it's time for them to see what is going wrong and fix things.

Only thing that REALLY suck is that we badly need a second or third seed to go to WCF and be able to maybe keep PG13.

spearsy23 · Post #64 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:00 am

Now that the disappointment is fading I feel a bit better about this one. Second night of a back to back after a really physical team and it took a fluke shot to lose. Donovan got a good look OOT for the Melo three, Russ finally looked like Russ for a sustained stretch, and George clearly isn't sure where he fits yet.

Post #65 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:00 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Right now we are shooting 43% from the field, 32% from deep and 66% from the ft line. No reason for those numbers to keep that low. We may have not developed a good offensive system but we missed so many open shots since opening night.

Not developing a good offensive system and missing shots are not exclusive. Wide open or not, when there is not flow to the offense it hurts everyone.

Eh, those numbers will go up offensive system or not. Russ has missed a bunch of freethrows inexplicably.

That what I thought after game 1, the game 2. Now we are still saying it. Free throws I can see but I don’t think it’s coincidence that we can’t hit easy shots and our offense sucks.

spearsy23 · Post #66 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:10 am

Knrstz wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Not developing a good offensive system and missing shots are not exclusive. Wide open or not, when there is not flow to the offense it hurts everyone.

Eh, those numbers will go up offensive system or not. Russ has missed a bunch of freethrows inexplicably.

That what I thought after game 1, the game 2. Now we are still saying it. Free throws I can see but I don’t think it’s comincidence we can’t hit easy shots.

It hasn't even been a week yet. Two of our three point shooters have been playing full contact for about that long since rehab. There was an abbreviated preseason after we brought in 6 new 'rotation' (by Billy's count anyway) players including josh since he never really played before. And apparently 4 of our top 6 players had some kind of injury rehab. It's really not surprising guys aren't comfortable.

Post #67 » by **dakomish23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:10 am

Knrstz wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:KAT with the KG illegal screen at the end.

The NW division is going to be a battle every game. Easily the toughest division this year.

Yep. Even more difficult to finish 2nd or 3rd seed.

I'm not seeing the spurs and rockets losing tons of games. We better fix things ASAP if we want to have a shot.

The good news is if we get the sixth seed we don’t have to play the warriors until the wcf. Lol

6th seed?

The ship will right itself. Everyone is still figuring out how to make this work, including the coach. I always thought this was going to be a team that would look great after January.

Post #68 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:11 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
Yep. Even more difficult to finish 2nd or 3rd seed.

I'm not seeing the spurs and rockets losing tons of games. We better fix things ASAP if we want to have a shot.

The good news is if we get the sixth seed we don’t have to play the warriors until the wcf. Lol

6th seed?

The ship will right itself. Everyone is still figuring out how to make this work, including the coach. I always thought this was going to be a team that would look great after January.

About that...

spearsy23 · Post #69 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:18 am

Knrstz wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:The good news is if we get the sixth seed we don’t have to play the warriors until the wcf. Lol

6th seed?

The ship will right itself. Everyone is still figuring out how to make this work, including the coach. I always thought this was going to be a team that would look great after January.

About that...

He did draw up a good out of bounds play for the first time in his career. That's technically progress.

Post #70 » by **bondom34** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:21 am

Don't worry, he's experimenting. He'll have the rotations down by next year when PG is gone.

spearsy23 · Post #71 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:26 am

bondom34 wrote:Don't worry, he's experimenting. He'll have the rotations down by next year when PG is gone.

Probably what he's going for to be honest, it's tough to get singler minutes with PG here.

Post #72 » by **bondom34** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:30 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Don't worry, he's experimenting. He'll have the rotations down by next year when PG is gone.

Probably what he's going for to be honest, it's tough to get singler minutes with PG here.

I think the reason I'm most discouraged with this loss is that all the "fixable" problems won't be.

Post #73 » by **dakomish23** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:31 am

Knrstz wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:The good news is if we get the sixth seed we don’t have to play the warriors until the wcf. Lol

6th seed?

The ship will right itself. Everyone is still figuring out how to make this work, including the coach. I always thought this was going to be a team that would look great after January.

About that...

What do you want to see done differently?

RunOKC · Post #74 » by **RunOKC** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:55 am

Went to the game. George had so many open 3's from the top of the key and wings that he missed. Abrines is useless with how we're playing offense. How can Roberson not get any better after a whole offseason? Felton is a pleasant surprise so far. Disgusting non call on that screen by KAT but the team didn't deserve to win anyways after playing like that for 40/48 minutes.

At least I got my money's worth!

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #75 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:08 am

Old Man Game wrote:I was excited when we got mellow, but I think most of us assumed that he was coming with the understanding that he would be a third option.

Oh no, thats not Melo's style at all. The dude is me first, team second, and always has been.

DoubleJ13 · Post #76 » by **DoubleJ13** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:33 am

Good games from Adams & Felton. Russ looked like Russ after whatever that Utah game was.

Hope that once the schedule gets going at the normal NBA schedule pace, guys will start catching their rhythm. Knew these first 10 or so games were going to be sloppy with how the offseason went.

HarthorneWingo · Post #77 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:05 am

Old Man Game wrote:I was excited when we got mellow, but I think most of us assumed that he was coming with the understanding that he would be a third option. His usage feels like it's a million percent at this point. somehow they've got to get through to him that he is allowed to pass the ball and actually move off the ball rather than just get in position to try and post guys up from 15 to 18 ft.

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HarthorneWingo · Post #78 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:06 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
6th seed?

The ship will right itself. Everyone is still figuring out how to make this work, including the coach. I always thought this was going to be a team that would look great after January.

About that...

What do you want to see done differently?

Will you stop torturing these guys? :rofl:

Bergmaniac · Post #79 » by **Bergmaniac** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:00 am

Well, at least you get a good backup PG now.

Melo is so annoying to watch, just a complete black hole on offense. Every time he passes the ball it feels special because it's so rare. Why does a very good 3 point shooter like him takes so many 20 footers? Can't he do the math that he is much better off taking a 3 instead?

George needs to get more varied plays run for him, not just the same play for getting him a 3 pointer at the same spot over and over again.

Why not play Roberson for defensive purposes down the stretch? It's not like Westbrook's 3s off the dribble need much spacing...

ozwizard8 · Post #80 » by **ozwizard8** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:01 am

Wb played bad for 3 quarters. But he kinda made up that with his 4th quarter performance.
Melo was good. PG needs some time. He shouldnt settle to those 3pt shots. WB didnt do any pg duty so PG suffered from that too. WB should've created some space with his driving/scoring threat. Felton did this better than him in first half.

Robertson is overrated defender. People act like he's a taller Tony Allen but he is not.
I'd gladly trade him for any of Beverley, M.Smart, Crowder.

I hate our defensive schemes. We got burned with every p&r play. Utah lived on those plays and Twolves just find their rythm with those.
We either switch or try to contain ball handler with 2 men in those plays. It always lead opponents to find open spot up shooter at corner.

Thanks to this faulty p&r defense our guys running to close out 3pt shooters like crazy.
On many instances 2 players started to run same men from same angle.
Our **** p&r defense made R.Rubio and Teague play like CP3.
I call this defense bad because it lets open mid range shots for pg's + lets them find many passing angles, empty shooter on corner.

I also hate S.Adams running to close out 3pt shooter. If that happens I know we'll concede points.
3 possible outcomes from those play:
*They make 3.
*They miss 3 and we give up board since we dont have Adams but they do have their C in the paint.
*Shooter easily gets past that big men running towards to him. I dont blame Adams on this. Any big men would get beat if he run to close out a 3pt shooter.
Its not S.Adams fault. Its Donovan's job to tell him not run to close out 3pt shooters.

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Btw I thought we gave up a very good shoot ending the 2nd quarter.
They had 2-3 secs and Wiggins shooted from the top without anyone challenging him.
Good coaches, great coaches just dont let a mistake like that slip. If Donovan told the players how should they defend a situation like that, how to force Wiggins to shoot tough shot we would win this game.
I mean its the same thing happened twice. At the end of 1st half it just didnt gone in.

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