12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder

Joest2003 · Post #61 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:24 pm

bondom34 wrote:Oh no.

But am I wrong though?

Post #62 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:30 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Oh no.

But am I wrong though?

Yeah kinda.

If there's one thing Brooks excelled at it was development. He did it in OKC. Hes doing it in Washington. I wanted Lamb to.get more of a shot but by every account he wasn't good in OKC. Wasn't putting in the effort.

Post #63 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:43 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
Lamb is a good player though. He's averaging 15/5/3. For us collectively as a fan base we want him starting over Batum who has a max contract. OKC old coaching staff dropped the ball on Lamb and I was saying it the whole time he was there and I got a lot of flak for it. So glad he got out of there

Lamb is good now.

He was not then.

Kinda hard when you have no development and get sent and back and fourth to Tulsa 3 times a week no? OKC was to worried about winning to develop young guys back then. They knew they had a window. To this day I still feel bad for rookies thay get drafted to OKC. They will never reach anything close to full potential as long as russell is there. Brooks being fired was a step in the right direction at least. Brooks had the irrational expectations for young guys to be more consistent without consistent playing time and I think the lack of development in younger players really hurt the organization as a whole. You guys let Lamb walk for nothing.

Correct. Which is the reason why he had more minutes per game in 2013–14 in OKC than any other season until this year.

Hang on a minute...

Also the reason why Reggie Jackson never developed and neither did Steven Adams.

Joest2003 · Post #64 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:45 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Oh no.

But am I wrong though?

Yeah kinda.

If there's one thing Brooks excelled at it was development. He did it in OKC. Hes doing it in Washington. I wanted Lamb to.get more of a shot but by every account he wasn't good in OKC. Wasn't putting in the effort.

Brooks was good at developing who exactly? Because KD and Russell are first ballot HOF players who would put up numbers anywhere else. Can you name a younger guy who is not a HOF player that was developed and progressed under Brooks? You keep saying Lamb wasn't any good in OKC. Well the thing is he actually was he just didnt get a proper chance and didn't have any type of development. They rather play Derek Fisher, Caron Butler, and Anthony morrow instead because they knew the window was closing. He didn't just magically turn into the player he is now from the drinking water in Charlotte. Charlotte signed him to a 3 year 21 million contract before he even played a game for them while OKC let him walk for a bag of potatoe chips. See the problem there?

Post #65 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:47 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Brooks was good at developing who exactly? Because KD and Russell are first ballot HOF players who would put up numbers anywhere else. Can you name a younger guy who is not a HOF player that was developed and progressed under Brooks?

Reggie. Ibaka.

Post #66 » by **slick_watts** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:47 pm

jeremy lamb was let go imo more because of the clash in the locker room as part of the reggie jackson saga than anything. had that not happened i can't imagine that we wouldn't have kept him on his final rookie scale year to see what's what. he got 2000+ minutes Y2 and Y3 combined which is a healthy amount considering how good our teams were.

Post #67 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:50 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
But am I wrong though?

Yeah kinda.

If there's one thing Brooks excelled at it was development. He did it in OKC. Hes doing it in Washington. I wanted Lamb to.get more of a shot but by every account he wasn't good in OKC. Wasn't putting in the effort.

Brooks was good at developing who exactly? Because KD and Russell are first ballot HOF players who would put up numbers anywhere else. Can you name a younger guy who is not a HOF player that was developed and progressed under Brooks? You keep saying Lamb wasn't any good in OKC. Well the thing is he actually was he just didnt get a proper chance and didn't have any type of development. They rather play Derek Fisher, Caron Butler, and Anthony morrow instead because they knew the window was closing. He didn't just magically turn into the player he is now from the drinking water in Charlotte. Charlotte signed him to a 3 year 21 million contract before he even played a game for them while OKC let him walk for a bag of potatoe chips. See the problem there?

Russ was a SG who didn't start in college.
Ibaka
Jackson
Kanter played better
Adams
Roberson
Now Beal, Porter, and Oubre

Lamb is about the only guy other than PJ 3 who didn't. And both had similar issues. Effort and motor.

Joest2003 · Post #68 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:59 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Lamb is good now.

He was not then.

Kinda hard when you have no development and get sent and back and fourth to Tulsa 3 times a week no? OKC was to worried about winning to develop young guys back then. They knew they had a window. To this day I still feel bad for rookies thay get drafted to OKC. They will never reach anything close to full potential as long as russell is there. Brooks being fired was a step in the right direction at least. Brooks had the irrational expectations for young guys to be more consistent without consistent playing time and I think the lack of development in younger players really hurt the organization as a whole. You guys let Lamb walk for nothing.

Correct. Which is the reason why he had more minutes per game in 2013–14 in OKC than any other season until this year.

Hang on a minute...

Also the reason why Reggie Jackson never developed and neither did Steven Adams.

Oh Reggie Jackson? The guy who averaged 17.6 and 9.2 assists on the pistons the same year he averaged 12.8 and 4.3 assists in OKC. Or how about Steven Adam's who after his rookie season under Brooks went from 7.7 ppg in 14-15 to 8.0 ppg with less rebounds in 15-16. A whole .3 ppg increase with less rebounds. Just the definition of development lmao. Not sure if that was a joke or not...

Joest2003 · Post #69 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:02 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Brooks was good at developing who exactly? Because KD and Russell are first ballot HOF players who would put up numbers anywhere else. Can you name a younger guy who is not a HOF player that was developed and progressed under Brooks?

Reggie. Ibaka.

Ibaka has been the same player forever. And to touch back on Adam's. He is having a career year under Donovan. His productivity as a total went down between his second and third season under brooks. We can ignore that though

Post #70 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:04 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
Kinda hard when you have no development and get sent and back and fourth to Tulsa 3 times a week no? OKC was to worried about winning to develop young guys back then. They knew they had a window. To this day I still feel bad for rookies thay get drafted to OKC. They will never reach anything close to full potential as long as russell is there. Brooks being fired was a step in the right direction at least. Brooks had the irrational expectations for young guys to be more consistent without consistent playing time and I think the lack of development in younger players really hurt the organization as a whole. You guys let Lamb walk for nothing.

Correct. Which is the reason why he had more minutes per game in 2013–14 in OKC than any other season until this year.

Hang on a minute...

Also the reason why Reggie Jackson never developed and neither did Steven Adams.

Oh Reggie Jackson? The guy who averaged 17.6 and 9.2 assists on the pistons the same year he averaged 12.8 and 4.3 assists in OKC. Or how about Steven Adam's who after his rookie season under Brooks went from 7.7 ppg in 14-15 to 8.0 ppg with less rebounds in 15-16. A whole .3 ppg increase with less rebounds. Just the definition of development lmao. Not sure if that was a joke or not...

You're really going to ignore Reggie going from bench to starter...LOL.

I'm not even reading any more, because it's clear you have no interest in facts beyond your agenda.

Joest2003 · Post #71 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:04 pm

Man that water must be something special in Charlotte because they signed him to a 3 year 2q million contract before he played a game for them. A few months after he was let go by OKC for a 3 day old tuna sandwitch. Someone clearly dropped the ball there.

Post #72 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:05 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Man that water must be something special in Charlotte because they signed him to a 3 year 2q million contract before he played a game for them. A few months after he was let go by OKC for a 3 day old tuna sandwitch. Someone clearly dropped the ball there.

Considering most Charlotte fans wanted to dump that contract for 2 years I wouldn't use this as a guide.

Joest2003 · Post #73 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:06 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Correct. Which is the reason why he had more minutes per game in 2013–14 in OKC than any other season until this year.

Hang on a minute...

Also the reason why Reggie Jackson never developed and neither did Steven Adams.

Oh Reggie Jackson? The guy who averaged 17.6 and 9.2 assists on the pistons the same year he averaged 12.8 and 4.3 assists in OKC. Or how about Steven Adam's who after his rookie season under Brooks went from 7.7 ppg in 14-15 to 8.0 ppg with less rebounds in 15-16. A whole .3 ppg increase with less rebounds. Just the definition of development lmao. Not sure if that was a joke or not...

You're really going to ignore Reggie going from bench to starter...LOL.

I'm not even reading any more, because it's clear you have no interest in facts beyond your agenda.

Ya a whole 4 minute difference. And considering he had to go against starters in Detroit that is still a very impressive jump in stats.

Post #74 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:08 pm

Wanna know why he got banned :lol:

?

Joest2003 · Post #75 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:09 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Man that water must be something special in Charlotte because they signed him to a 3 year 2q million contract before he played a game for them. A few months after he was let go by OKC for a 3 day old tuna sandwitch. Someone clearly dropped the ball there.

Considering most Charlotte fans wanted to dump that contract for 2 years I wouldn't use this as a guide.

Considering this is his second year of his contract and he's already widely considered better than Batum who is on a max contact and our second best player I would say you have no idea what your saying...

Joest2003 · Post #76 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:10 pm

bondom34 wrote:Wanna know why he got banned ?

Ya for saying the unpopular truth

Post #77 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:11 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Man that water must be something special in Charlotte because they signed him to a 3 year 2q million contract before he played a game for them. A few months after he was let go by OKC for a 3 day old tuna sandwitch. Someone clearly dropped the ball there.

Considering most Charlotte fans wanted to dump that contract for 2 years I wouldn't use this as a guide.

Considering this is his second year of his contract and he's already widely considered better than Batum who is on a max contact and our second best player I would say you have no idea what your saying...

Batum has been terrible.

He's been better than Luol Deng too and I would not take a victory lap over it.

Post #78 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:11 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Wanna know why he got banned ?

Ya for saying the unpopular truth

Actually for stanning for a solid bench wing. Again.

Post #79 » by **bondom34** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:13 pm

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lambje01.html

Brooks did this! And for his years in Charlotte too! Loud noises!

Joest2003 · Post #80 » by **Joest2003** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:22 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Wanna know why he got banned ?

Ya for saying the unpopular truth

Actually for stanning for a solid bench wing. Again.

Solid bench player who is better than anyone in OKC other than russell and pg13 who is going to leave so fast when this season is over lmao. Ban me again Idgaf