11/28 | G20: Cleveland Cavaliers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

[getrichordie]

I'm pretty confident that Nader sucks you guys. Boston drafted him 58th overall, gave him over 500 minutes last year and ultimately traded him in a salary dump. They were reportedly ready to just cut him. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I don’t disagree at all. But players can improve. I think he should at least get the opportunity TLC was afforded. It is possible that he fits better with our lineups than some of the ones in Boston. You don’t know if you don’t know, so let’s see what he does when given that opportunity.

Off the bench last year in Boston, he shot 37.5% on 3, albeit on a super small sample size (61 3PA over 47 games), but when a team needs shooting bad like our does, you have at least explore what him coming off the bench can do.

[getrichordie]

Important to keep in mind that Cavaliers currently have the worst DRtg in the league, allowing 113.1 pts per 100 after tonight’s game.


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[ThunderBolt]

I thought it was a pretty ugly game tbh. We did some things well defensively but we are such a poor shooting team, it’s tough to watch. Russ played better but Sexton sucks defensively. Teams are really starting to pack the paint against us. We are doing a decent job of making the extra pass to still get good looks but we did it against the Cavs. It’s not going to continue to get tougher. We still could have lost a game like this last year and we have yet to see this team at full strength. I hope we get healthy and stay healthy because we’re running out of easy teams to beat up on.

[ThunderBolt]

Burton has played nice but realistically, how much better can he become? Yes he’s a rookie but he’s older than both grant and Noel.

[sleestak33]

I would love to hear from even one Patterson supporter at this point. I don't get why they're even playing him at this point because he's doing less than Kyle Singler was doing. It's just further proof that Sam Presti controls what the coach does and who he plays because there's no coach in their right mind that would have continued to play Singler all that time and the same goes for Patterson. I just think it's funny that so many on here supported Patterson all last year and were calling for him to start this season and I said he not only shouldn't start but should barely be playing and Grant should start. I also don't get the carousel of players starting at shooting guard now that Ferguson is out. Why not stick with one guy and give him a chance for more than one game. It's funny that Ferguson got all those chances over and over while failing miserably yet they kept going with him and now it's just whoever Presti wants Donovan to try next. Gotta go with Schroder starting though for this team to reach its potential. This team showed while Russ was out that it runs better with Schroder facilitating the offense. Moving Russ to the 2 would be the best thing they've ever done and it would eliminate those games where Russ goes 1-12 on 3s and many of the 8 and 9 turnover games because he wouldn't have the ball in his hands as much.

[getrichordie]

I would love to hear from even one Patterson supporter at this point. I don't get why they're even playing him at this point because he's doing less than Kyle Singler was doing. It's just further proof that Sam Presti controls what the coach does and who he plays because there's no coach in their right mind that would have continued to play Singler all that time and the same goes for Patterson. I just think it's funny that so many on here supported Patterson all last year and were calling for him to start this season and I said he not only shouldn't start but should barely be playing and Grant should start. I also don't get the carousel of players starting at shooting guard now that Ferguson is out. Why not stick with one guy and give him a chance for more than one game. It's funny that Ferguson got all those chances over and over while failing miserably yet they kept going with him and now it's just whoever Presti wants Donovan to try next. Gotta go with Schroder starting though for this team to reach its potential. This team showed while Russ was out that it runs better with Schroder facilitating the offense. Moving Russ to the 2 would be the best thing they've ever done and it would eliminate those games where Russ goes 1-12 on 3s and many of the 8 and 9 turnover games because he wouldn't have the ball in his hands as much.

Yeah, those Patterson supporters have been super quiet since the beginning of the season.


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[ThunderBolt]

I would love to hear from even one Patterson supporter at this point. I don't get why they're even playing him at this point because he's doing less than Kyle Singler was doing. It's just further proof that Sam Presti controls what the coach does and who he plays because there's no coach in their right mind that would have continued to play Singler all that time and the same goes for Patterson. I just think it's funny that so many on here supported Patterson all last year and were calling for him to start this season and I said he not only shouldn't start but should barely be playing and Grant should start. I also don't get the carousel of players starting at shooting guard now that Ferguson is out. Why not stick with one guy and give him a chance for more than one game. It's funny that Ferguson got all those chances over and over while failing miserably yet they kept going with him and now it's just whoever Presti wants Donovan to try next. Gotta go with Schroder starting though for this team to reach its potential. This team showed while Russ was out that it runs better with Schroder facilitating the offense. Moving Russ to the 2 would be the best thing they've ever done and it would eliminate those games where Russ goes 1-12 on 3s and many of the 8 and 9 turnover games because he wouldn't have the ball in his hands as much.

Yeah, those Patterson supporters have been super quiet since the beginning of the season.


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Several people, including myself have admitted grant has been better. The reason it’s quiet is because we don’t repeat the same stupid nonsense when the evidence proves otherwise. Grant has been better than Patterson. Period. I’m not going to run to the general board for support of a false belief if the truth is obvious. Schröder still isn’t better than Westbrook.

[spearsy23]

I would love to hear from even one Patterson supporter at this point. I don't get why they're even playing him at this point because he's doing less than Kyle Singler was doing. It's just further proof that Sam Presti controls what the coach does and who he plays because there's no coach in their right mind that would have continued to play Singler all that time and the same goes for Patterson. I just think it's funny that so many on here supported Patterson all last year and were calling for him to start this season and I said he not only shouldn't start but should barely be playing and Grant should start. I also don't get the carousel of players starting at shooting guard now that Ferguson is out. Why not stick with one guy and give him a chance for more than one game. It's funny that Ferguson got all those chances over and over while failing miserably yet they kept going with him and now it's just whoever Presti wants Donovan to try next. Gotta go with Schroder starting though for this team to reach its potential. This team showed while Russ was out that it runs better with Schroder facilitating the offense. Moving Russ to the 2 would be the best thing they've ever done and it would eliminate those games where Russ goes 1-12 on 3s and many of the 8 and 9 turnover games because he wouldn't have the ball in his hands as much.

Yeah, those Patterson supporters have been super quiet since the beginning of the season.


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Several people, including myself have admitted grant has been better. The reason it’s quiet is because we don’t repeat the same stupid nonsense when the evidence proves otherwise. Grant has been better than Patterson. Period. I’m not going to run to the general board for support of a false belief if the truth is obvious. Schröder still isn’t better than Westbrook.

Yeah, Like what, we're all still here posting on the regular

[Mattv]

I'm pretty confident that Nader sucks you guys. Boston drafted him 58th overall, gave him over 500 minutes last year and ultimately traded him in a salary dump. They were reportedly ready to just cut him. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Well lets think about all the Sg and Sf Boston has?I dont think i have to name them so for boston thinking about cuting him for a roster spot isnt to big of a knock on him. He was also the G leauge rookie of the year so he cant be too bad.And according to multiple reports hes been the best 3 point shooter at practice.Maybe he will get some min soon and we can find out.

[Mattv]

Abrines was hot garbage tonight, whenever opponents are happy to leave a 3 point specialist alone you know you're doing bad.

I mean 3/3/1 in 26 minutes while shooting 1/9

I think it's pretty much time to end the experiment with him

no. when your 3 point specialist is getting open three point looks over and over that's a good thing. our team cannot shoot! unless you think alex abrines magically turned into a 30% three point shooter overnight for no reason then he should continue to start and get those shooting opportunities. not benched because he had a poor shooting game. christ.

Abrines has always done this he will be hot for 3 days then he cant hit the ocean for a week. Lets not act like it was just one game and his defense is subpar even with the big improvement he made and he doesnt help the team in any other way if the 3 isnt falling. Its time for someone else to get a shot.

[spearsy23]

Abrines was hot garbage tonight, whenever opponents are happy to leave a 3 point specialist alone you know you're doing bad.

I mean 3/3/1 in 26 minutes while shooting 1/9

I think it's pretty much time to end the experiment with him

no. when your 3 point specialist is getting open three point looks over and over that's a good thing. our team cannot shoot! unless you think alex abrines magically turned into a 30% three point shooter overnight for no reason then he should continue to start and get those shooting opportunities. not benched because he had a poor shooting game. christ.

Abrines has always done this he will be hot for 3 days then he cant hit the ocean for a week. Lets not act like it was just one game and his defense is subpar even with the big improvement he made and he doesnt help the team in any other way if the 3 isnt falling. Its time for someone else to get a shot.

It's time? He played one game!

[Mattv]

no. when your 3 point specialist is getting open three point looks over and over that's a good thing. our team cannot shoot! unless you think alex abrines magically turned into a 30% three point shooter overnight for no reason then he should continue to start and get those shooting opportunities. not benched because he had a poor shooting game. christ.

Abrines has always done this he will be hot for 3 days then he cant hit the ocean for a week. Lets not act like it was just one game and his defense is subpar even with the big improvement he made and he doesnt help the team in any other way if the 3 isnt falling. Its time for someone else to get a shot.

It's time? He played one game!

Abrines has been there 3 year now what do you mean 1 game! Hes to inconsistent and cant help the team if his shot isnt falling thats just facts hes needs to be playing less minutes until he can prove he can be more consistent. That mean someone elese gets a shot right?

[bondom34]

Abrines has always done this he will be hot for 3 days then he cant hit the ocean for a week. Lets not act like it was just one game and his defense is subpar even with the big improvement he made and he doesnt help the team in any other way if the 3 isnt falling. Its time for someone else to get a shot.

It's time? He played one game!

Abrines has been there 3 year now what do you mean 1 game! Hes to inconsistent and cant help the team if his shot isnt falling thats just facts hes needs to be playing less minutes until he can prove he can be more consistent. That mean someone elese gets a shot right?

It's his 3rd NBA season. He's a 37 percent 3 point shooter. That doesn't mean he shoots 37% every game, it means on aggregate he shoots that.

If you'd prefer to sit him for the player shooting 31% or the one shooting 27% I don't see the point.

[Mattv]

It's time? He played one game!

Abrines has been there 3 year now what do you mean 1 game! Hes to inconsistent and cant help the team if his shot isnt falling thats just facts hes needs to be playing less minutes until he can prove he can be more consistent. That mean someone elese gets a shot right?

It's his 3rd NBA season. He's a 37 percent 3 point shooter. That doesn't mean he shoots 37% every game, it means on aggregate he shoots that.

If you'd prefer to sit him for the player shooting 31% or the one shooting 27% I don't see the point.

1st. Yeah as long as that 27 % shooter can do other stuff that helps Okc win game ofcourse.Theres alot more to basketball than the 3 pointer.
2nd. Im 100 % sure thats what we did last year with brewer and we looked alot better.

[bondom34]

Abrines has been there 3 year now what do you mean 1 game! Hes to inconsistent and cant help the team if his shot isnt falling thats just facts hes needs to be playing less minutes until he can prove he can be more consistent. That mean someone elese gets a shot right?

It's his 3rd NBA season. He's a 37 percent 3 point shooter. That doesn't mean he shoots 37% every game, it means on aggregate he shoots that.

If you'd prefer to sit him for the player shooting 31% or the one shooting 27% I don't see the point.

1st. Yeah as long as that 27 % shooter can do other stuff that helps Okc win game ofcourse.Theres alot more to basketball than the 3 pointer.
2nd. Im 100 % sure thats what we did last year with brewer and we looked alot better.

They weren't good with Brewer, those lineups were barely a plus (0.9 net) and subbing in Grant for Melo were a negative.

We also have a reasonably longer history of Abrines working well with the starters and he's a +15 this year. Diallo's been a negative lineup and the Ferguson lineups are propped quite a bit by the opponent shooting incredibly under par for 3 (23.5%). He's about the best option.

[Mattv]

It's his 3rd NBA season. He's a 37 percent 3 point shooter. That doesn't mean he shoots 37% every game, it means on aggregate he shoots that.

If you'd prefer to sit him for the player shooting 31% or the one shooting 27% I don't see the point.

1st. Yeah as long as that 27 % shooter can do other stuff that helps Okc win game ofcourse.Theres alot more to basketball than the 3 pointer.
2nd. Im 100 % sure thats what we did last year with brewer and we looked alot better.

They weren't good with Brewer, those lineups were barely a plus (0.9 net) and subbing in Grant for Melo were a negative.

We also have a reasonably longer history of Abrines working well with the starters and he's a +15 this year. Diallo's been a negative lineup and the Ferguson lineups are propped quite a bit by the opponent shooting incredibly under par for 3 (23.5%). He's about the best option.

Man i really dont care if Abrines starts or not but when his shot is not falling like last night he is a big Liability Burton ,Diallo,Ferguson can do other this can do alot of stuff to help the team like defend, Block shot and rebound.Its funny how you used + and - then made an excuse when you got to Ferguson it couldnt be that he's that much better on the defensive end? Diallo and Burton hasnt had enough time with the starter so i dont buy into the plus and minus there either and if you believe that Abrines or anyone we had last year was better than brewer for the team then theres no hope anyway.

[bondom34]

He was, Brewer was bad. And Burton's nice but not yet. You can't just pull shooters every time they miss.