2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

[Pillendreher]

It’s disappointing that the warriors and blazers have turned in to tank competitors.

It's frustrating that my takes come to fruition one year too late. Grant being trash. Portland being trash. Just unfortunate.

26.7 % from 2pt range. How is that even possible?

It's frustrating that my takes come to fruition one year too late. Grant being trash. Portland being trash. Just unfortunate.

Grant was the perfect sell high candidate this off-season and Presti did it while most of the fan base cried. Grant will probably start shooting better than he is right now, but he's not the shooter he showed last year, and that is where his perceived value was coming from. If he repeated last year's 39% shooting from 3 then he would have opted out and gotten a big contract. By failing to shoot well he'll opt in and, at best, be an even value contract.

People ignored Grant not being close to what he was at the rim/as a PnR player in 17/18 last season. He basically replaced his great efficiency when attacking the rim with more high % 3s and now that those are gone, he's a much more average player than people thought.

[eminence]

Something around Conley for CP3? Conley will (hopefully) eventually come around but waiting is hurting Utah's playoff race in the meantime. Still provides great vet leadership and saves OKC some money the next two years and the whole 3rd season.

[ThunderBolt]

Something around Conley for CP3? Conley will (hopefully) eventually come around but waiting is hurting Utah's playoff race in the meantime. Still provides great vet leadership and saves OKC some money the next two years and the whole 3rd season.

Yes I think most okc fans would do that.

[Balkman32]

Something around Conley for CP3? Conley will (hopefully) eventually come around but waiting is hurting Utah's playoff race in the meantime. Still provides great vet leadership and saves OKC some money the next two years and the whole 3rd season.

It also saves the organization from the Lux tax this year and $57 over the course of there contracts. Thunder don't really care if Conley comes around with that type of cap savings. This deal hits all of OKC's goals, get under the lux tax, get off of Paul's $44 million in 21-22, and bring back a quality veteran that can work with the young guys.

[J_T]

We got a thread gone wild in one day on Mavs forum. Now personally I'm not interested in that trade and I think it's not what Mavs need. But I'm not sure if OKC would see it favorable either. THJ + Powell for CP3. Maybe I'm underestimating the luxury tax situation, but surely it's relatively easy for OKC now to avoid it? What exactly are the CP trades supposed to be looking like?

[Balkman32]

We got a thread gone wild in one day on Mavs forum. Now personally I'm not interested in that trade and I think it's not what Mavs need. But I'm not sure if OKC would see it favorable either. THJ + Powell for CP3. Maybe I'm underestimating the luxury tax situation, but surely it's relatively easy for OKC now to avoid it? What exactly are the CP trades supposed to be looking like?

The Thunder can get under the Lux tax by simply offloading Nader. I think they need to cut $1.4 million to get under. I am sure they will be able to make a move to make it happen.

Powell is Dallas' starting Center. I don't think he would have to be in the trade. I think a CP3 for Hardaway and Lee works. I do think OKC might want that 2025 Mav's pick, or maybe a couple 2nds in 22 and 23 (double draft potential).

Something else that could be interesting is CP3 and Gallo for Hardaway, Lee, Wright, Boban, J. Jackson and the 2025 first, I think that the Thunder could want more back for those two, because they are really going to help a team this year. Plus, the Thunder might want to trade them both on the same day, to really start the rebuild.

Either way adding CP3 can help the Mav's now. Only Wright and Hardaway are playing over 20 minutes right now. I don't think either is extremely valuable, some would say they both hold negative value. Wright would be a decent backup PG for the rebuilding Thunder over the next couple of years.

[NYG]

Kevin Knox + Expirings of NY’s choice for Chris Paul would get which picks of OKC’s sent to NY?

[Balkman32]

Kevin Knox + Expirings of NY’s choice for Chris Paul would get which picks of OKC’s sent to NY?

I don't know if you are getting picks. But, you can have Denver's 2020 and the Thunder's 2021 2nd rounder.

I just don't think the Thunder have interest in giving picks away to get off Paul's contract. I think they like him on the team he has been good for the young guys.

I think the Thunder like Ntilikina. If he was in the deal they might be willing to do two first rounders. But, it doesn't really fit the time line or what they want to do.

Taj Gibson (Fan Favorite), Ellington, Payton, Ntilikina & Knox for CP3 (Knicks taking on $85.5 million with 2 years left on his deal) + 2020 Denver's first and 2021 Heat's first, works financially. It achieves the Thunders goal of getting under the lux tax and also bringing in young talent.

I don't know what it does for the Knicks other than basically takes themselves out of the Gannis sweepstakes in 2021, since a 36 year old CP3 will be making $44 million in his final year ins't the real selling point (but, hay maybe someone will need $44 million in an expiring deal).

At the end of the day I don't think CP3 makes much sense for the Knicks. But, if you want him, have @ it.

[NYG]

Kevin Knox + Expirings of NY’s choice for Chris Paul would get which picks of OKC’s sent to NY?

I don't know if you are getting picks. But, you can have Denver's 2020 and the Thunder's 2021 2nd rounder.

I just don't think the Thunder have interest in giving picks away to get off Paul's contract. I think they like him on the team he has been good for the young guys.

I think the Thunder like Ntilikina. If he was in the deal they might be willing to do two first rounders. But, it doesn't really fit the time line or what they want to do.

Taj Gibson (Fan Favorite), Ellington, Payton, Ntilikina & Knox for CP3 (Knicks taking on $85.5 million with 2 years left on his deal) + 2020 Denver's first and 2021 Heat's first, works financially. It achieves the Thunders goal of getting under the lux tax and also bringing in young talent.

I don't know what it does for the Knicks other than basically takes themselves out of the Gannis sweepstakes in 2021, since a 36 year old CP3 will be making $44 million in his final year ins't the real selling point (but, hay maybe someone will need $44 million in an expiring deal).

At the end of the day I don't think CP3 makes much sense for the Knicks. But, if you want him, have @ it.

Thanks, that’s great feedback. Hey what is the minimum OKC would need from a Gallinari trade?

[ThunderBolt]

Kevin Knox + Expirings of NY’s choice for Chris Paul would get which picks of OKC’s sent to NY?

I don't know if you are getting picks. But, you can have Denver's 2020 and the Thunder's 2021 2nd rounder.

I just don't think the Thunder have interest in giving picks away to get off Paul's contract. I think they like him on the team he has been good for the young guys.

I think the Thunder like Ntilikina. If he was in the deal they might be willing to do two first rounders. But, it doesn't really fit the time line or what they want to do.

Taj Gibson (Fan Favorite), Ellington, Payton, Ntilikina & Knox for CP3 (Knicks taking on $85.5 million with 2 years left on his deal) + 2020 Denver's first and 2021 Heat's first, works financially. It achieves the Thunders goal of getting under the lux tax and also bringing in young talent.

I don't know what it does for the Knicks other than basically takes themselves out of the Gannis sweepstakes in 2021, since a 36 year old CP3 will be making $44 million in his final year ins't the real selling point (but, hay maybe someone will need $44 million in an expiring deal).

At the end of the day I don't think CP3 makes much sense for the Knicks. But, if you want him, have @ it.

Thanks, that’s great feedback. Hey what is the minimum OKC would need from a Gallinari trade?

First round pick. Best case scenario for okc is mid first round. Possibly a prospect would suffice depending on the market. My person preference is a pick for something besides this year. Gallo has played pretty well so far this year and could put a legitimate contender over the top.

[Dadouv47]

think a low first and a expiring is the right value for Gallo.

My best case scenario would be trading Gallo and 2021 Miami first for a (very) good young prospect but don't think it will happen.

[Balkman32]

For Gallo they want an unprotected first in 22 or 23. I think those are the years to stack pile picks. Having 16 First round picks (Assuming Houston does not bottom out in 24 and 26 and they end up keeping a top 4 pick.) the Thunder will be able to do whatever they please.

I think the Thunder would even take on salary next year if the player fit a need on this team.

[Dn4sty]

For Gallo they want an unprotected first in 22 or 23. I think those are the years to stack pile picks. Having 16 First round picks (Assuming Houston does not bottom out in 24 and 26 and they end up keeping a top 4 pick.) the Thunder will be able to do whatever they please.

I think the Thunder would even take on salary next year if the player fit a need on this team.

I would set the percentage that a team gives up an unprotected pick for Gallo at -1000%

[ThunderBolt]

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[ThunderBolt]

Probably not a bad time to call the jazz and see if they are interested in making a pg swap.

[Balkman32]

For Gallo they want an unprotected first in 22 or 23. I think those are the years to stack pile picks. Having 16 First round picks (Assuming Houston does not bottom out in 24 and 26 and they end up keeping a top 4 pick.) the Thunder will be able to do whatever they please.

I think the Thunder would even take on salary next year if the player fit a need on this team.

I would set the percentage that a team gives up an unprotected pick for Gallo at -1000%

You taking my $1 bet?

[Balkman32]

Probably not a bad time to call the jazz and see if they are interested in making a pg swap.

Send them Gallo with CP3 for Exum, Davis, Bradley, Conley and picks.

Gobert with Gallo, Ingles, Bogdanovic, Mitchell and CP3 would be probably one of the best 6 man groups in the league. All they have to do is have Green, O'Neale and Mudiay each give them 20 decent minutes and this team would be ready to roll.

[Dn4sty]

For Gallo they want an unprotected first in 22 or 23. I think those are the years to stack pile picks. Having 16 First round picks (Assuming Houston does not bottom out in 24 and 26 and they end up keeping a top 4 pick.) the Thunder will be able to do whatever they please.

I think the Thunder would even take on salary next year if the player fit a need on this team.

I would set the percentage that a team gives up an unprotected pick for Gallo at -1000%

You taking my $1 bet?

Unprotected will never happen. It’s far too risky. Too much can happen in any given year with injuries and a team will never put themselves in a place to miss on a Zion/KAT/Doncic type player. It just won’t happen.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Unprotected will never happen. It’s far too risky. Too much can happen in any given year with injuries and a team will never put themselves in a place to miss on a Zion/KAT/Doncic type player. It just won’t happen.

I wouldn't go that far. There is a chance a team could take the risk. Kyrie was picked with an unprotected pick from LAC that had the worst lottery odds and ended up the top pick. LAC was sure they were making the playoffs and it was late enough in the season they didn't think there was any chance they were giving up a lottery pick. I will agree that it is very unlikely, but I wouldn't say impossible. However, I think they would only do an unprotected 2020 pick and that is a team that believes they are going to make the playoffs.

I do not think OKC gets an unprotected 2022 or 2023 pick for Gallo. Way too much variance to give up something that far out when Gallo could potentially be a rental. Since a lot of the teams that I think would be willing to give up their 2020 unprotected can't it would be very hard to pull off. I think two lottery protected picks is more likely, although I think one lottery protected pick will end up being the return.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Probably not a bad time to call the jazz and see if they are interested in making a pg swap.

Send them Gallo with CP3 for Exum, Davis, Bradley, Conley and picks.

Gobert with Gallo, Ingles, Bogdanovic, Mitchell and CP3 would be probably one of the best 6 man groups in the league. All they have to do is have Green, O'Neale and Mudiay each give them 20 decent minutes and this team would be ready to roll.

OKC out: CP, Gallo, Nader
OKC in: Exum, Snell, Galloway, RJ (buyout immediately)

UTA out: Conley, Ingles, Exum
UTA in: CP, Gallo, Nader

DET out: RJ, Snell, Galloway
DET in: Conley, Ingles