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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#61 » by Andre Roberstan » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:11 pm

RingoKid wrote:Steven Adams owns Isaiah Hartenstein in head to head matchups...

https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/steven_adams_vs_isaiah_hartenstein.htm

Just sayin :)


I guess we'll worry about that 4 times next year
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#62 » by RingoKid » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:16 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:
RingoKid wrote:Steven Adams owns Isaiah Hartenstein in head to head matchups...

https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/steven_adams_vs_isaiah_hartenstein.htm

Just sayin :)


I guess we'll worry about that 4 times next year


Mmm...Dillon and the Funaki vs Harty and Caruso should be a fun watch.

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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#63 » by Woerzboerg » Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:56 am

retrobro90 wrote:Nobody left on the FA board I'm crazy about now that Batum is gone tbh. Would rather roll that room exception into the season as a TPE and give us more flexibility at the deadline. Possible they'll end up giving Ajay a guarantee too depending on how they evaluate his SL performance


If nothing else happens I would give Muscala a 1+1 (team option) contract worth the full room mle. Unless a defacto tpe you could combine his contract with others at the tdl, so you gain more flexibility.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#64 » by Devilanche » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:11 pm

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retrobro90 wrote:Nobody left on the FA board I'm crazy about now that Batum is gone tbh. Would rather roll that room exception into the season as a TPE and give us more flexibility at the deadline. Possible they'll end up giving Ajay a guarantee too depending on how they evaluate his SL performance


If nothing else happens I would give Muscala a 1+1 (team option) contract worth the full room mle. Unless a defacto tpe you could combine his contract with others at the tdl, so you gain more flexibility.

I will keep roster spot open and I will keep the room mle open as well.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#65 » by Clav » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:16 pm

Can we take a moment and smile at the brilliance of getting pick swaps from the Clippers as they inevitably start falling apart. This year we have a real chance of collecting the LAC swap in a favorable position. Next year, we receive their selection unprotected. Thank you PG trade for Shai. Delicioso!
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Post#66 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:22 am

Clav wrote:Can we take a moment and smile at the brilliance of getting pick swaps from the Clippers as they inevitably start falling apart. This year we have a real chance of collecting the LAC swap in a favorable position. Next year, we receive their selection unprotected. Thank you PG trade for Shai. Delicioso!


It's awesome because it could be so much worse. Imagine if OKC had to suffer with SGA/Sabonis/Luka as their big three. That was an option that Presti passed on even with someone, who he fired, suggested. How much would SGA/Luka suck? I love Presti because no one else can minimize an opportunity to win a championship like that illiterate noob.
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Post#67 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:36 am

Devilanche wrote:I will keep roster spot open and I will keep the room mle open as well.


Why keep the room MLE open? You could sign Tyus Jones who is a good player and gives you someone of value to use in a future trade where you can combine that salary with others to get something done. Why let the salary space sit there empty unless you have no interest in improving the team short-term or long-term. Do you hate the idea of an OKC championship so much you want to minimize trade options and keep the team away from opportunities to improve? You can't use the MLE as room in a trade. You either sign someone so you can potentially use the contract at the deadline or you lose it.

I know Presti would rather waste it because he just wants a first round exit and doesn't care about winning championships. Presti is a piece of garbage who should have been fired when he traded for PG13. The idiot thought Hayward was an improvement when this board knew it was a tanking move. I suppose we could assume this board, on average, is in the top 5% IQ in the world and Presti is still highly intelligent, but not on par. I'd find that hard to believe. Given his education background I assume his IQ is high enough that, at best, two people on this board top him. Of course, IQ and education are not as strong of a correlation as woke, psychologically defined as viewing society as full of oppressors and victims, and low IQ. I have never taken Presti as being woke so always assumed his IQ was correlated with his education. Anyone care to argue Presti is low IQ? My contention is that he just lacks fortitude.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#68 » by Devilanche » Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:49 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Devilanche wrote:I will keep roster spot open and I will keep the room mle open as well.


Why keep the room MLE open? You could sign Tyus Jones who is a good player and gives you someone of value to use in a future trade where you can combine that salary with others to get something done. Why let the salary space sit there empty unless you have no interest in improving the team short-term or long-term. Do you hate the idea of an OKC championship so much you want to minimize trade options and keep the team away from opportunities to improve? You can't use the MLE as room in a trade. You either sign someone so you can potentially use the contract at the deadline or you lose it.

I know Presti would rather waste it because he just wants a first round exit and doesn't care about winning championships. Presti is a piece of garbage who should have been fired when he traded for PG13. The idiot thought Hayward was an improvement when this board knew it was a tanking move. I suppose we could assume this board, on average, is in the top 5% IQ in the world and Presti is still highly intelligent, but not on par. I'd find that hard to believe. Given his education background I assume his IQ is high enough that, at best, two people on this board top him. Of course, IQ and education are not as strong of a correlation as woke, psychologically defined as viewing society as full of oppressors and victims, and low IQ. I have never taken Presti as being woke so always assumed his IQ was correlated with his education. Anyone care to argue Presti is low IQ? My contention is that he just lacks fortitude.


Pretty sure tyus would want a bigger role.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#69 » by Clav » Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:10 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Clav wrote:Can we take a moment and smile at the brilliance of getting pick swaps from the Clippers as they inevitably start falling apart. This year we have a real chance of collecting the LAC swap in a favorable position. Next year, we receive their selection unprotected. Thank you PG trade for Shai. Delicioso!


It's awesome because it could be so much worse. Imagine if OKC had to suffer with SGA/Sabonis/Luka as their big three. That was an option that Presti passed on even with someone, who he fired, suggested. How much would SGA/Luka suck? I love Presti because no one else can minimize an opportunity to win a championship like that illiterate noob.


Hey, that's so far from the intention of the post. Yes, the past reflects faults, I accept. We only can live in this unfortunate reality but it is the hand we are dealt.
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Post#70 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:39 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Clav wrote:Can we take a moment and smile at the brilliance of getting pick swaps from the Clippers as they inevitably start falling apart. This year we have a real chance of collecting the LAC swap in a favorable position. Next year, we receive their selection unprotected. Thank you PG trade for Shai. Delicioso!


It's awesome because it could be so much worse. Imagine if OKC had to suffer with SGA/Sabonis/Luka as their big three. That was an option that Presti passed on even with someone, who he fired, suggested. How much would SGA/Luka suck? I love Presti because no one else can minimize an opportunity to win a championship like that illiterate noob.

Could you please explain the GM and franchise that has made decisions that always turn you on? I don’t care that you don’t like Sam Presti but this constant obsession with failure to reach perfection gets old. For low hanging fruit’s sake we can talk about the mavs decisions to build around Luka. We can start with DSJ or skip ahead to Brunson. Maybe meet in the middle with Porzingis? Pat Riley? Masai? Bob Meyers? Hell, take your pick. Sam annoys me too but even if we win multiple titles it seems like you’ll be here venting that disaster lurks around the next corner.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#71 » by slick_watts » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:01 pm

ThunderBolt wrote: Sam annoys me too but even if we win multiple titles it seems like you’ll be here venting that disaster lurks around the next corner.


i can tell you with 100% certainty that if the thunder win a title, kizz will not be venting, he will take credit and post something about sam presti finally listening to him w/r/t some move or another.

kizz is the master of hindsight, after all.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#72 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:41 pm

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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#73 » by Clav » Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:51 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#74 » by Mr Thunder Nick » Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:19 am

Devilanche wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Devilanche wrote:I will keep roster spot open and I will keep the room mle open as well.


Why keep the room MLE open? You could sign Tyus Jones who is a good player and gives you someone of value to use in a future trade where you can combine that salary with others to get something done. Why let the salary space sit there empty unless you have no interest in improving the team short-term or long-term. Do you hate the idea of an OKC championship so much you want to minimize trade options and keep the team away from opportunities to improve? You can't use the MLE as room in a trade. You either sign someone so you can potentially use the contract at the deadline or you lose it.

I know Presti would rather waste it because he just wants a first round exit and doesn't care about winning championships. Presti is a piece of garbage who should have been fired when he traded for PG13. The idiot thought Hayward was an improvement when this board knew it was a tanking move. I suppose we could assume this board, on average, is in the top 5% IQ in the world and Presti is still highly intelligent, but not on par. I'd find that hard to believe. Given his education background I assume his IQ is high enough that, at best, two people on this board top him. Of course, IQ and education are not as strong of a correlation as woke, psychologically defined as viewing society as full of oppressors and victims, and low IQ. I have never taken Presti as being woke so always assumed his IQ was correlated with his education. Anyone care to argue Presti is low IQ? My contention is that he just lacks fortitude.


Pretty sure tyus would want a bigger role.


Tyus Jones whom I give a lot of credit is no more in a position to ask a bigger role. When he will get the chance to play for a real contender, he will accept any role to be part of it. I would gladly see the Thunder signing TJ to a 2 year 16 Mio contract.
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#75 » by Mr Thunder Nick » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:12 am

A player I would have on the radar is also R.Covington. A good Veteran player with a lot of experience, good lengths , 3 pt shooting and a great addition for the locker room.
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Post#76 » by Devilanche » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:21 pm

Mr Thunder Nick wrote:Tyus Jones whom I give a lot of credit is no more in a position to ask a bigger role. When he will get the chance to play for a real contender, he will accept any role to be part of it. I would gladly see the Thunder signing TJ to a 2 year 16 Mio contract.

I think this is a simplistic take.
If he coming over there would be a fight for some backup minutes. All I’m saying is if he coming as a backup he probably want to go somewhere where the backup guards might not be as good as Wallace,Joe,Wiggins,Dort/Caruso.

Would he get minutes here ? Definitely. But he probably wants a more defined/guaranteed role or at least be overpaid for it.
He’s still have at least 1 decent contract before he chase winning at a discount. And yes I consider the role / contract we are offering him a discount.
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Post#77 » by retrobro90 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:55 am

Phoenix is planning on releasing EJ Liddell after the Roddy trade so they can sign a PG (presumably Tyus Jones). Think he's a worthy dice roll for spot #15 and could be good upside coming back from injury. Looked solid in SL for Atlanta.

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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#78 » by Devilanche » Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:52 am

retrobro90 wrote:Phoenix is planning on releasing EJ Liddell after the Roddy trade so they can sign a PG (presumably Tyus Jones). Think he's a worthy dice roll for spot #15 and could be good upside coming back from injury. Looked solid in SL for Atlanta.


I’m somewhat indifferent about 15th spot.
Prefer a ball handler or a squint really hard I can see a 3&D role best version of said player.


No clue who it might be or our 3 ways are as well. But I’m not sure how much minutes these 4 players will get .
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Re: All Things Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#79 » by Mr Thunder Nick » Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:40 am

F*** T.Jones at Phoenix for only 3,3 Mio on a one year deal. Would have been a good addition for OKC too.
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Post#80 » by Devilanche » Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:59 am

Guaranteed starter role hard for him to give up at this stage of free agency.

No way he would have signed for the same price with us.
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