2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[bondom34]

If you add Russ to their team they become much closer than we are. They are a contender in the east without him. We are the Brooklyn nets without him.

They've got Thomas, and Russ can't play off ball. To boot, they're still not better than the Cavs and by the time Lebron is done, Crowder, Bradley, Smart, and Thomas are due huge contracts. They're no more contenders than anyone else.

Thomas is an exciting player but he isn't on Russ' level. Boston is obviously a contender in the East if they had Russ without surrendering other major pieces.

That's a problem. Because Thomas is a major piece, they'd definitely be better, but they'd be still demonstrably worse than Cleveland.

[spearsy23]

They've got Thomas, and Russ can't play off ball. To boot, they're still not better than the Cavs and by the time Lebron is done, Crowder, Bradley, Smart, and Thomas are due huge contracts. They're no more contenders than anyone else.

Thomas is an exciting player but he isn't on Russ' level. Boston is obviously a contender in the East if they had Russ without surrendering other major pieces.

That's a problem. Because Thomas is a major piece, they'd definitely be better, but they'd be still demonstrably worse than Cleveland.

You've repeatedly said you see Thomas as a sixth man, so we're moving him to the bench and adding an mvp caliber player. With Russ Boston is clearly on Cleveland's level. Maybe Not above, but that series would be a toss up.

And i don't know why Russ can't play off ball, he did it routinely with Harden here. Not that it matters because Thomas can play off ball as well.

LeBron didn't make the cavs unbeatable.

[bondom34]

Thomas is an exciting player but he isn't on Russ' level. Boston is obviously a contender in the East if they had Russ without surrendering other major pieces.

That's a problem. Because Thomas is a major piece, they'd definitely be better, but they'd be still demonstrably worse than Cleveland.

You've repeatedly said you see Thomas as a sixth man, so we're moving him to the bench and adding an mvp caliber player. With Russ Boston is clearly on Cleveland's level. Maybe Not above, but that series would be a toss up.

And i don't know why Russ can't play off ball, he did it routinely with Harden here. Not that it matters because Thomas can play off ball as well.

LeBron didn't make the cavs unbeatable.

I think you're way underrating the Cavs. Lebron is essentially a guaranteed finals, even moving IT to the bench Boston still has no rebounding and no Lebron. They're 2 levels over anyone out east and they don't even try in the RS.

[spearsy23]

That's a problem. Because Thomas is a major piece, they'd definitely be better, but they'd be still demonstrably worse than Cleveland.

You've repeatedly said you see Thomas as a sixth man, so we're moving him to the bench and adding an mvp caliber player. With Russ Boston is clearly on Cleveland's level. Maybe Not above, but that series would be a toss up.

And i don't know why Russ can't play off ball, he did it routinely with Harden here. Not that it matters because Thomas can play off ball as well.

LeBron didn't make the cavs unbeatable.

I think you're way underrating the Cavs. Lebron is essentially a guaranteed finals, even moving IT to the bench Boston still has no rebounding and no Lebron. They're 2 levels over anyone out east and they don't even try in the RS.

LeBron has been playing 38 minutes per game. They're clearly doing everything they can, they just aren't that amazing, srs is closer to the jazz than the rockets. That team is nowhere near unbeatable. And LeBron has been a guaranteed finals because he's had no competition. Plus How would Boston have no rebounding after adding a 10 reb per game guy?

Adding this Russ to Boston gives them the best player in the series, the third best and the 6th best, plus a MUCH deeper bench than Cleveland. It has nothing to do worth underrating Cleveland, you're overrating them tbh.

[Kizz Fastfists]

They've got Thomas, and Russ can't play off ball. To boot, they're still not better than the Cavs and by the time Lebron is done, Crowder, Bradley, Smart, and Thomas are due huge contracts. They're no more contenders than anyone else.

IT rates out as the worst defensive player in the NBA by DRPM. Russ would be a HUGE upgrade. Not to mention that they would actually get a very big return making it a 3 team trade sending IT to a team for prospects and picks to go to OKC.

Something like Boston getting Russ and Adams. Philly getting IT and Oladipo. OKC getting Noel, Brown, Saric, Rozier, 2017 Brooklyn first, 2018 Brooklyn first, 2017 Philly 1st, 2017 LAL first and 2019 Sacramento first plus salary filler like Zeller, Amir Johnson, Sean Rodriguez and Jerebko would work.

OKC has at least two very good picks this year with Brooklyn and Philly and possibly the LAL pick, although LAL might end up being a top 5 next year. The Brooklyn pick will again be probable for #1 next season. OKC's pick in 2018 would also probably be in the top 5. So between two drafts Presti would most likely have four top 5 picks and another in the top 8.

Philly does it because IT and Oladipo give them the missing PG and SG they needed to round out their lineup with Simmons at SF and Embiid at center. They are betting on Embiid and Simmons being their superstars and IT as your 3rd best player makes you a very good team. Boston is a contender with Russ, Bradley, Crowder, Horford and Adams as their starting 5 while still having Smart and Olynyk off the bench. OKC starts their rebuild with some young pieces and why none of them look to be future starts they should have 5 shots at landing a "big 3" in the draft to go with a great collection of role players including Noel, Brown, Abrines, Sabonis, Saric and Rozier/Payne. They have a defensive center, wing depth, a solid big prospect and their backup PG long-term on the roster and with some combination of Fultz, Ball, Monk, Jackson and Isaac out of this draft along with OKC's own pick which could be Kurucs, Harkenstein, Jeanne or some other draft and stash with big upside. Then next draft adding some combination of Porter, Ayton, Carter, Bamba, Knox, etc. OKC will be loaded with potential as they grow over the next few years with a team that should be hitting it's stride right as GS, Boston and Cleveland start to fall off.

[bondom34]

They've got Thomas, and Russ can't play off ball. To boot, they're still not better than the Cavs and by the time Lebron is done, Crowder, Bradley, Smart, and Thomas are due huge contracts. They're no more contenders than anyone else.

IT rates out as the worst defensive player in the NBA by DRPM. Russ would be a HUGE upgrade. Not to mention that they would actually get a very big return making it a 3 team trade sending IT to a team for prospects and picks to go to OKC.

Something like Boston getting Russ and Adams. Philly getting IT and Oladipo. OKC getting Noel, Brown, Saric, Rozier, 2017 Brooklyn first, 2018 Brooklyn first, 2017 Philly 1st, 2017 LAL first and 2019 Sacramento first plus salary filler like Zeller, Amir Johnson, Sean Rodriguez and Jerebko would work.

OKC has at least two very good picks this year with Brooklyn and Philly and possibly the LAL pick, although LAL might end up being a top 5 next year. The Brooklyn pick will again be probable for #1 next season. OKC's pick in 2018 would also probably be in the top 5. So between two drafts Presti would most likely have four top 5 picks and another in the top 8.

Philly does it because IT and Oladipo give them the missing PG and SG they needed to round out their lineup with Simmons at SF and Embiid at center. They are betting on Embiid and Simmons being their superstars and IT as your 3rd best player makes you a very good team. Boston is a contender with Russ, Bradley, Crowder, Horford and Adams as their starting 5 while still having Smart and Olynyk off the bench. OKC starts their rebuild with some young pieces and why none of them look to be future starts they should have 5 shots at landing a "big 3" in the draft to go with a great collection of role players including Noel, Brown, Abrines, Sabonis, Saric and Rozier/Payne. They have a defensive center, wing depth, a solid big prospect and their backup PG long-term on the roster and with some combination of Fultz, Ball, Monk, Jackson and Isaac out of this draft along with OKC's own pick which could be Kurucs, Harkenstein, Jeanne or some other draft and stash with big upside. Then next draft adding some combination of Porter, Ayton, Carter, Bamba, Knox, etc. OKC will be loaded with potential as they grow over the next few years with a team that should be hitting it's stride right as GS, Boston and Cleveland start to fall off.

1. Philly doesn't even consider this. Like never ever.

2. There's about a 99 percent chance nothing coming back is ever remotely close to as good as Russ. So you're now just waiting 5 years to be worse than now.

[bondom34]

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/woj-report-nba-trade-deadline-025519235.html

Woj also notes OKC as buyers for Wilson Chandler.

[spearsy23]

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/woj-report-nba-trade-deadline-025519235.html

Woj also notes OKC as buyers for Wilson Chandler.

Any help is better than none but boy does that miss the mark on filling our biggest need.

[bondom34]

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/woj-report-nba-trade-deadline-025519235.html

Woj also notes OKC as buyers for Wilson Chandler.

Any help is better than none but boy does that miss the mark on filling our biggest need.

I think it could be 2 birds/1 stone if they can get Nelson too. Get a 3 and backup PG.

Also, and not at all toward you but to me there's a lot of value in being a solid 50 win team for many years.

[Pillendreher]

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/woj-report-nba-trade-deadline-025519235.html

Woj also notes OKC as buyers for Wilson Chandler.

I honestly don't get what people see in him. Sure, he'd be an upgrade over our current wing rotation, but he's not gonna be a difference maker. He is and has always been a mediocre player. Can't shoot, so that fits right in...

[ThunderBolt]

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/woj-report-nba-trade-deadline-025519235.html

Woj also notes OKC as buyers for Wilson Chandler.

I honestly don't get what people see in him. Sure, he'd be an upgrade over our current wing rotation, but he's not gonna be a difference maker. He is and has always been a mediocre player. Can't shoot, so that fits right in...

It also sounds like there is no way on earth Kanter is being moved. It probably wouldn't even matter if he was healthy.

[Pillendreher]

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/woj-report-nba-trade-deadline-025519235.html

Woj also notes OKC as buyers for Wilson Chandler.

I honestly don't get what people see in him. Sure, he'd be an upgrade over our current wing rotation, but he's not gonna be a difference maker. He is and has always been a mediocre player. Can't shoot, so that fits right in...

It also sounds like there is no way on earth Kanter is being moved. It probably wouldn't even matter if he was healthy.

I honestly believe it's more likely for us to keep Kanter long term and sign him to a new contract after this one. Presti might just be 'mad' enough for this.

[Osirus89]

I honestly don't get what people see in him. Sure, he'd be an upgrade over our current wing rotation, but he's not gonna be a difference maker. He is and has always been a mediocre player. Can't shoot, so that fits right in...

It also sounds like there is no way on earth Kanter is being moved. It probably wouldn't even matter if he was healthy.

I honestly believe it's more likely for us to keep Kanter long term and sign him to a new contract after this one. Presti might just be 'mad' enough for this.

Forget kanter and his dumb chair punching behind. When his contract is up, he needs to outrun the door racing behind him. Presti better not hand him another big deal. That's if he isn't traded first.

Wilson Chandler is no marksman, but he is averaging 16 ppg for a Denver squad as a 3rd option. Depends on what the team has to give up, but he is more than welcome to come in. Our 5th average scorer is still josh huestis. We have no backup point guard. Our wing rotation is a bad joke. That and Russ knows him which can't be underrated.

[ThunderBolt]

If we're in a race with the clippers for him, surely we can beat them out. I think Payne would have some interested from them. They aren't sold on mudiay.

[spearsy23]

If we're in a race with the clippers for him, surely we can beat them out. I think Payne would have some interested from them. They aren't sold on mudiay.

Wish we could do a larger deal to include mudiay, I don't think he's good but so much better than cam that it's not even funny.

[spearsy23]

Cousins/Davis? Holy ****! That is a terrifying combo.

[getrichordie]

What would it take to get Brook Lopez?

[thor19]

Cousins/Davis? Holy ****! That is a terrifying combo.

Okc need to do something maybe denver get in panic mode for they 8 playoff spot, and we can't get out of the playoff picture. Westbrook need help.

[spearsy23]

Cousins/Davis? Holy ****! That is a terrifying combo.

Okc need to do something maybe denver get in panic mode for they 8 playoff spot, and we can't get out of the playoff picture. Westbrook need help.

We're not in any danger and Denver isn't going to make a panic trade, they've got a young core so they aren't in a hurry. Could be interesting to see Davis/cousins trying to bully gsw though.

[spearsy23]

Looks like casspi might be headed to NOLA as well. He is a guy I was hoping we'd be able to scoop up for cheap.