The third time's the charm - First Round Series vs Portland

Post #641 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:59 am

As Al-Farouq Aminu checks in, Blazers assistant David Vanterpool tells him, "Chief, don't help on Russ. Let him shoot." Westbrook has tried to stick with the playmaking in this fourth quarter despite the deficit.

$200 million. let him shoot.

Pillendreher · Post #642 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:00 am

If Donovan survives this offseason, I will stop following the NBA. I'm done.

Post #643 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:01 am

Pillendreher wrote:If Donovan survives this offseason, I will stop following the NBA. I'm done.

Been paying league pass for 8 years. won't pay anymore if Donovan is still there.

Post #644 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:02 am

Pillendreher wrote:If Donovan survives this offseason, I will stop following the NBA. I'm done.

Anderson Silva · Post #645 » by **Anderson Silva** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:04 am

Donovan has to go. We cant shoot 3s. his game plan involves shooting loads of 3s. Shroder needs to be traded for someone consistant. package with Ferg and Hami. so frustrated with seeing 3s Brick..... and Billy acts ilke "we shot the ball poorly" no **** sherlock, we have 2 guys on the team that can hit 3s.

Post #646 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:08 am

Anderson Silva wrote:Donovan has to go. We cant shoot 3s. his game plan involves shooting loads of 3s. Shroder needs to be traded for someone consistant. package with Ferg and Hami. so frustrated with seeing 3s Brick..... and Billy acts ilke "we shot the ball poorly" no **** sherlock, we have 2 guys on the team that can hit 3s.

this is a roster construction problem. when you can't shoot and the other team has no interest in treating your primary ball handler as a threat beyond 10 feet and you have a team full of non-playmaking athletes, what are the options? this has been the issue the whole season offensively except the brief stretch where they made threes consistently.

fire donovan and then what? you can run a westbrook / adams pick and roll all day but it won't do anything if westbrook's defender has zero respect for him and if the perimeter defenders have zero respect for our non-george shooters.

maybe you can squeeze a little bit more with an elite coach. but i don't see where it can make all that much of a difference. billy's probably right, actually. our best chance at generating offense is making threes since that's what opponents tend to give us.

NaturalThunder · Post #647 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:10 am

Pillendreher wrote:If Donovan survives this offseason, I will stop following the NBA. I'm done.

Same here. I said it on the GB and I was only half kidding.

I seriously think I will be done if we retain Donovan after a third straight 1st round exit.

This is inexcusable. It's also time for the higher ups to put more pressure on Presti or fire his overrated ***. He still hasn't figured out that you can't win in today's NBA with zero shooters; especially when your superstar point guard, who is a good drive-and-kick distributor, is a terrible shooter who needs shooters to dish the ball to.

I have a terrible temper. I've been known to throw things and go on curse-laden tirades around the house after Thunder playoff losses. I'm so far gone with this franchise at this point that I'm just sitting here venting on a message board calmly and helplessly accepting the fact that us being down 3-1 right now isn't the least bit surprising.

NaturalThunder · Post #648 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:11 am

Anderson Silva wrote:Donovan has to go. We cant shoot 3s. his game plan involves shooting loads of 3s. Shroder needs to be traded for someone consistant. package with Ferg and Hami. so frustrated with seeing 3s Brick..... and Billy acts ilke "we shot the ball poorly" no **** sherlock, we have 2 guys on the team that can hit 3s.

Who's the second guy on the roster than can consistently make 3s?

Post #649 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:12 am

thunder are stuck for two years, minimum. nobody's going to want westbrook and they lack the resources to make any major changes to the roster now. basically hope and pray terrance ferguson turns some corner.

Pillendreher · Post #650 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:25 am

Pillendreher · Post #651 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:30 am

Team DRtG amongst WC players with at least 25 mpg in the postseason:

RalphSampsonJr · Post #652 » by **RalphSampsonJr** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:31 am

Pillendreher wrote:

Watch next series.. Kanter will only get 10 mins a game and get exposed for all of those 600 seconds.

There will be a 30 for 30 on Sam one day. Itl be all about how he drafted some of the best players the games ever seen.. all to throw it away.

Drastic changes coming. Adams should probably be traded. Dennis will be on the block for sure. Sam needs to free up money to make changes cuz this is not working

Post #653 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:32 am

Pillendreher wrote:

looks like you were wrong about kanter just like you were about grant.

NaturalThunder · Post #654 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:33 am

Did Russ really leave the bench before the end of the game tonight?

If so, I think I'm about done with him and his antics. I so bad want to love him and to embrace him as Oklahoma's adopted son, especially after what Durant did to us. But at this point, with his attitude and antics, along with his horrendous play, it's really difficult to truly love and embrace Russ as "our guy."

Thunder Up · Post #655 » by **Thunder Up** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:33 am

these dudes are really playing against two of the worst defenders in the playoffs in Lillard and Kanter and have RW0 and Adams and literally don’t even have a game plan centered around the PnR

It is actually **** insane to me that someone can be this inept at their job

Old Man Game · Post #656 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:35 am

Absolutely pathetic performance tonight. You just have to wonder how much longer we're going to run this treadmill of first round exits. I'm sorry, I'd rather be in the lottery then have yet another 5-6 game first round exit. At least there's some chance you could fundamentally alter the trajectory of this team. Right now they're just stuck and I'm personally sick of it.

Post #657 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:37 am

NaturalThunder wrote:Did Russ really leave the bench before the end of the game tonight?

If so, I think I'm about done with him and his antics. I so bad want to love him and to embrace him as Oklahoma's adopted son, especially after what Durant did to us. But at this point, with his attitude and antics, along with his horrendous play, it's really difficult to truly love and embrace Russ as "our guy."

you don't owe him anything. wesbtrook stayed in oklahoma for the richest contract in nba history. very altruistic of him.

russ is again trying to dominate his opponent by this cringe-y force of will nonsense and lillard is making him look like a fool.

Old Man Game · Post #658 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:57 am

slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:Did Russ really leave the bench before the end of the game tonight?

If so, I think I'm about done with him and his antics. I so bad want to love him and to embrace him as Oklahoma's adopted son, especially after what Durant did to us. But at this point, with his attitude and antics, along with his horrendous play, it's really difficult to truly love and embrace Russ as "our guy."

you don't owe him anything. wesbtrook stayed in oklahoma for the richest contract in nba history. very altruistic of him.

russ is again trying to dominate his opponent by this cringe-y force of will nonsense and lillard is making him look like a fool.

It's true. One looks like a modern nba Superstar guard. The other player like a guy who the evolution of the game has just passed by.

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Pillendreher · Post #659 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:04 am

FGA for Adams in this series: 14, 8, 5, 6

oreojenkins · Post #660 » by **oreojenkins** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:09 am

slick_watts wrote:
Anderson Silva wrote:Donovan has to go. We cant shoot 3s. his game plan involves shooting loads of 3s. Shroder needs to be traded for someone consistant. package with Ferg and Hami. so frustrated with seeing 3s Brick..... and Billy acts ilke "we shot the ball poorly" no **** sherlock, we have 2 guys on the team that can hit 3s.

this is a roster construction problem. when you can't shoot and the other team has no interest in treating your primary ball handler as a threat beyond 10 feet and you have a team full of non-playmaking athletes, what are the options? this has been the issue the whole season offensively except the brief stretch where they made threes consistently.

fire donovan and then what? you can run a westbrook / adams pick and roll all day but it won't do anything if westbrook's defender has zero respect for him and if the perimeter defenders have zero respect for our non-george shooters.

maybe you can squeeze a little bit more with an elite coach. but i don't see where it can make all that much of a difference. billy's probably right, actually. our best chance at generating offense is making threes since that's what opponents tend to give us.

Wish more people would realize roster construction is the #1 problem. The team got dealt a **** hand after KD left, and honestly Presti has done about as good of a job as he could given ownership's desire to remain competitive rather than bottoming out. Once Westbrook's shot went, winning anything of note without a large number of shooters surrounding him went with it. Like everyone can see, what incentive is there to do anything but let our bad shooters shoot? And the kicker is people actually think getting Roberson back, even at 100%, will make a difference. Imagine playing this version of Westbrook at the same time with Adams and Roberson lol. Even worse, you know you could see a Westbrook, Schroder, Roberson, (whoever), Adams/Noel lineup play real minutes together. The horror.

I really don't understand how anyone can have a realistically strong opinion on Donovan at this point. The team has performed about as you'd expect given the talent and fit. I get being frustrated and wanting change, but I don't think switching out coaches alone will do much of anything.

Presti needs to try to swing for the fences again and hopefully acquire a previously thought impossible player like AD or Beal. That would be my preferred and supremely ideal option. If he can't get a third piece of near that ilk, he has to consider blowing it up. The Lakers are desperate at this point, for example. Get them to give you everything, replenish your youth and draft cache, and straighten out your books for the first time in like five years. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I fully realize there's a near or maybe even actual 0% chance he'd trade Westbrook and/or PG. I'm just saying staying the course with what we've got making incremental changes is purgatory. Who wants to be a fan of the Joe Johnson Hawks?