2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#641 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:14 am

How could teams not think about making a serious offer for schroder after tonight? Knicks or Minnesota have to be thinking seriously about him.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#642 » by Thundershock88 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:20 am

Going to be sick if Presti makes this move. They should have tanked for a better draft pick if they were going to do this all along.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#643 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:31 am

If thought of most thought Gallo has a first round pick value. If he gets lotto protections removed on a 2023 pick, that’s decent value.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#644 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:31 am

Balkman32 wrote:Would the Rockets trade their 2022 FRP for Noel?


They might, but would Noel only waives his NTC if Houston is going to guarantee him the money he thinks/knows he'll get from Presti.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#645 » by Sea2003 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:33 am

Give them back their 2021 pick and make their 2023 and 2025 pick unprotected
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#646 » by Worst_to_First » Thu Feb 6, 2020 7:23 am

ThunderBolt wrote:How could teams not think about making a serious offer for schroder after tonight? Knicks or Minnesota have to be thinking seriously about him.


Given that our FO is not willing to trade our 2020 pick we don’t have what it takes to get Schroder.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#647 » by nbaguy1 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:57 am

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Thunder Up wrote:y’all complain about Schroeder’s friendly deal and 36 year old Roberson just got the same deal


schroder was horrible before this season. if his shooting improvement is legitimate, obviously he's worth his salary. nobody last year would have had a problem with acquiring schroder if we thought he would be this productive. you're also drawing a false equivalence, since schroder's deal was a larger % of the cap at the time it was signed than iguodala's extension is today.

that said, it might be worth it to keep schroder through the year no matter what offers we get. if he continues to play like this he could be valuable over the summer on an expiring contract.

he wasnt "horrible"...he whas slightly above average playing with two co-ballhogs in donovans "system"
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#648 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 11:24 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Having Miami remove protections on a 2023 pick makes it much more valuable. I would love to have an actual player but this would be much more valuable than just some mid to late first round pick.


how could remove the protection be so valuable if Miami is building such a good team with several good young players that must be staying in Miami for a while? Don't like it at all tbh

If the point was removing protection from another team pick I would be happy. Miami future looks way too good for me to be happy about this :(
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#649 » by spearsy23 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 11:36 am

nbaguy1 wrote:
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Thunder Up wrote:y’all complain about Schroeder’s friendly deal and 36 year old Roberson just got the same deal


schroder was horrible before this season. if his shooting improvement is legitimate, obviously he's worth his salary. nobody last year would have had a problem with acquiring schroder if we thought he would be this productive. you're also drawing a false equivalence, since schroder's deal was a larger % of the cap at the time it was signed than iguodala's extension is today.

that said, it might be worth it to keep schroder through the year no matter what offers we get. if he continues to play like this he could be valuable over the summer on an expiring contract.

he wasnt "horrible"...he whas slightly above average playing with two co-ballhogs in donovans "system"

No. He was horrible.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#650 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 11:51 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:Having Miami remove protections on a 2023 pick makes it much more valuable. I would love to have an actual player but this would be much more valuable than just some mid to late first round pick.


how could remove the protection be so valuable if Miami is building such a good team with several good young players that must be staying in Miami for a while? Don't like it at all tbh

If the point was removing protection from another team pick I would be happy. Miami future looks way too good for me to be happy about this :(

Three years is a long time in the nba. What if Miami misses in free agency and butler has a major injury like his achillies? It’s not an unprotected Knicks pick value but we are only trading expiring Gallo. It’s not a sexy trade but not a bad one, in my opinion.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#651 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 11:52 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:How could teams not think about making a serious offer for schroder after tonight? Knicks or Minnesota have to be thinking seriously about him.


Given that our FO is not willing to trade our 2020 pick we don’t have what it takes to get Schroder.

I don’t think most of us realistically think schroder is worth the knicks pick. Perhaps some other assets could work.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#652 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 11:56 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:Having Miami remove protections on a 2023 pick makes it much more valuable. I would love to have an actual player but this would be much more valuable than just some mid to late first round pick.


how could remove the protection be so valuable if Miami is building such a good team with several good young players that must be staying in Miami for a while? Don't like it at all tbh

If the point was removing protection from another team pick I would be happy. Miami future looks way too good for me to be happy about this :(

Three years is a long time in the nba. What if Miami misses in free agency and butler has a major injury like his achillies? It’s not an unprotected Knicks pick value but we are only trading expiring Gallo. It’s not a sexy trade but not a bad one, in my opinion.


3 years is a long time but they are a top free agency landing spot and they have way too many good players under rookie contract to become a bad team. Miami is one of the team with the most upside for the next years. Oh well, whatever...
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#653 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:00 pm

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how could remove the protection be so valuable if Miami is building such a good team with several good young players that must be staying in Miami for a while? Don't like it at all tbh

If the point was removing protection from another team pick I would be happy. Miami future looks way too good for me to be happy about this :(

Three years is a long time in the nba. What if Miami misses in free agency and butler has a major injury like his achillies? It’s not an unprotected Knicks pick value but we are only trading expiring Gallo. It’s not a sexy trade but not a bad one, in my opinion.


3 years is a long time but they are a top free agency landing spot and they have way too many good players under rookie contract to become a bad team. Miami is one of the team with the most upside for the next years. Oh well, whatever...

It’s not that it will likely be a top 5 pick but it’s the value of what it could be. If your boy Collins becomes available, that’s the kind of pick that gets a team’s attention.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#654 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:13 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Three years is a long time in the nba. What if Miami misses in free agency and butler has a major injury like his achillies? It’s not an unprotected Knicks pick value but we are only trading expiring Gallo. It’s not a sexy trade but not a bad one, in my opinion.


3 years is a long time but they are a top free agency landing spot and they have way too many good players under rookie contract to become a bad team. Miami is one of the team with the most upside for the next years. Oh well, whatever...

It’s not that it will likely be a top 5 pick but it’s the value of what it could be. If your boy Collins becomes available, that’s the kind of pick that gets a team’s attention.


Herro is my boy as well and was planning on a SGA/Collins/Herro big 3 ;)

Guess we will need to draft well to give SGA some help...
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#655 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:42 pm

From Horne’s article

Even if he didn’t want to admit he knew what was happening, Gallinari wore it on his face in postgame.

Yet, as Gallinari stood off to the side as Chris Paul was talking to the media after the game, he scrolled through his phone then held it to his ear in silence. The Thunder practice at noon on Thursday and Gallinari isn’t likely to be a part of it. Gallinari said he hoped he’d be there.


Schroder on trade rumors-

“It’s not a bad thing,” Schröder said about being at the center of trade discussions. Schröder has not been shy this season about his aspirations to be a starter again. “It’s a business. Everybody in this locker room, we play for OKC right now. We give everything for this organization. Our GM, Sam Presti, is probably the best GM I’ve ever seen. He’s an honest person.

“If it happens, it’s probably for the business and we’re going to move on. Until then, we’re a family here. Teammates, we’re all like a family and we’re in a good place.”


Woj on ESPN basically saying that nothing has stalled. Everyone just went to bed and talks are expected to continue this morning. He mentioned that in addition to getting the protections removed on 2023 pick, possibly an additional pick from Miami.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#656 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:47 pm

Could Gallo make some 1+1 extension like Iggy? would increase his trade value.

Not sure a 1+1 contract is a good deal for him though. Guess he should profit for being healthy for almost 2 years to get a larger deal
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#657 » by slick_watts » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:01 pm

Thunder Up wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
Thunder Up wrote:I don’t like Herro but he better be involved in any of these rumors are true and a trade does happen

I doubt they give that dude up.


There’s no other reason to involve Gallo in that deal... it much more worth it to go all in on this season than to acquire scraps that won’t do anything for the future like James Johnson or Dion Waiters for a pick protection removal


more worth it to go all in on this season? what? lol. you get what you can for gallinari now because he's gone in the summer and we're not winning anything with him now.
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Post#658 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:07 pm

Read on Twitter


Yep..
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#659 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:08 pm

Miami is SO obsessed about the 2021 free agency.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#660 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:09 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Yep..

Sounds like this is all but done.
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