OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

Post #681 » by **Dadouv47** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:24 pm

didn't want to post about Micic anymore but since Woj is reporting it...

Post #682 » by **Dadouv47** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:56 pm

Odds of Miami 2025 FRP becoming unprotected are pretty good with Miami chasing KD and Donovan Mitchell available on the market. It's better for us if they get KD instead of Mitchell IMO.

Balkman32 · Post #683 » by **Balkman32** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:06 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Odds of Miami 2025 FRP becoming unprotected are pretty good with Miami chasing KD and Donovan Mitchell available on the market. It's better for us if they get KD instead of Mitchell IMO.

What year do you want it in? ‘29 FRP would be Butlers age 39 season.

Post #684 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:51 am

Balkman32 wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Odds of Miami 2025 FRP becoming unprotected are pretty good with Miami chasing KD and Donovan Mitchell available on the market. It's better for us if they get KD instead of Mitchell IMO.

What year do you want it in? ‘29 FRP would be Butlers age 39 season.

I like it in 2025 if they get KD...likely less depth and both KD and Jimmy will be old.

timO · Post #685 » by **timO** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:32 am

19 players on roster

Need to get rid of 4

Favors-Green-Maledon-Jerome are my choices.

But Presti maybe cuts Krejci who can shoot a bit, and give maledon another try.

Post #686 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:07 am

timO wrote:19 players on roster

Need to get rid of 4

Favors-Green-Maledon-Jerome are my choices.

But Presti maybe cuts Krejci who can shoot a bit, and give maledon another try.

Mine are Green, Favors, Jerome and Krejci. I don't think we will waive both Green and Favors though. I hope we can find a Green + Jerome trade for one player that we would waive. I like Krejci but I don't see it...think Maledon has a higher chance to become a decent NBA player.

Big nick · Post #687 » by **Big nick** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:27 pm

Myself I like krejci better than maledon krejci has a better attitude.

Post #688 » by **Clav** » Tue Aug 9, 2022 2:25 am

I like Vit too, he's got better looking attitude on the court and some swagger. He's a crafty player and doesn't seem afraid. Maledon unfortunately for him looks to be picking his spots and is less aggressive on the attack, and not impactful on the defensive end.

I do like Maledon's game though. He's got soft touch and his form is smooth, I just think he's a bit out of his league with the speed of this level.

Envelopes · Post #689 » by **Envelopes** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:37 am

Favors may need to stay with Chet going down. Maybe tradable at the deadline. So maybe both have to go?

cjmcallist · Post #690 » by **cjmcallist** » Tue Nov 8, 2022 3:16 pm

Getting it started, a little prematurely…

How about Giddey for Wagner? ORL could really use a big lead guard like Josh, we could really use a wing like Wagner. My guess is ORL would want something else, and I’d maybe give it.

Post #691 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 8, 2022 3:56 pm

cjmcallist wrote:Getting it started, a little prematurely…

How about Giddey for Wagner? ORL could really use a big lead guard like Josh, we could really use a wing like Wagner. My guess is ORL would want something else, and I’d maybe give it.

Yeah I would do that but I don't think Orlando has any interest in moving Wagner.

cjmcallist · Post #692 » by **cjmcallist** » Tue Nov 8, 2022 4:28 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
cjmcallist wrote:Getting it started, a little prematurely…

How about Giddey for Wagner? ORL could really use a big lead guard like Josh, we could really use a wing like Wagner. My guess is ORL would want something else, and I’d maybe give it.

Yeah I would do that but I don't think Orlando has any interest in moving Wagner.

I’d be surprised if they did. But, if Suggs proves to be a bust and Giddey still looks promising, maybe they’re incentivized given the bugs/wings at the top of this draft.

Probably a pipe dream though.

Xatticus · Post #693 » by **Xatticus** » Wed Nov 9, 2022 11:52 am

cjmcallist wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
cjmcallist wrote:Getting it started, a little prematurely…

How about Giddey for Wagner? ORL could really use a big lead guard like Josh, we could really use a wing like Wagner. My guess is ORL would want something else, and I’d maybe give it.

Yeah I would do that but I don't think Orlando has any interest in moving Wagner.

I’d be surprised if they did. But, if Suggs proves to be a bust and Giddey still looks promising, maybe they’re incentivized given the bugs/wings at the top of this draft.

Probably a pipe dream though.

This Orlando front office is averse to anything proactive. They aren't inclined to make trades unless they are forced to and they'd never move Wagner at this point. They are still trying to convince themselves that he is the next Luka Doncic. He isn't. He's a really good basketball player, but he isn't abundantly talented. His only real advantage is his height/length, but he plays the game like a 10-year pro.

From the outside, a lot of people are labeling Suggs a bust, but that's an unlikely outcome, I think. He's potentially an elite defensive guard. He's already very good. He just plays the game a lot faster than he can comprehend it at present. He makes plays frequently, both good and bad. He just needs time.

Bamba can probably be had, but I wouldn't bother. I just don't think he's a good fit in OKC. He's not an anchor. He needs to freelance. His timing as a help defender is very sketchy, but he does alter shots. He's a legitimate threat as a shooter though.

The guys I'd be interested in are WCJ and Isaac. I don't think either are available at present, but if everyone gets healthy, they are going to have a tough time finding minutes for everyone in the frontcourt.

WCJ is a really solid young big, but he and Banchero occupy the same space. He's got a great contract and he'd slot in perfectly with this team. He'd also fit well alongside Chet when he comes back.

Isaac is just a very special defender when he is healthy, which he pretty much never is. He's nearing his return now. It's a risk, but I think this team is in a situation where it can afford to take on a potentially bad salary.

I don't see the urgency to move Giddey. I think people are forgetting how young he is. He has time on his side. His fit alongside SGA isn't ideal, but SGA isn't the easiest guy to share the court with. I wouldn't be too focused on filling out the roster with 3nDs just to complement SGA. That will lower the ceiling for this team in the long term. We have time to develop someone like Giddey, which is a luxury that won't be there as this rebuild moves along.

cjmcallist · Post #694 » by **cjmcallist** » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:14 pm

I don’t think this is the right path, but would like to see what ya’ll think: if we were to add one of the rumored available player this trade deadline - who would you target?

My criteria is that they have to be the same age as Shai or younger, and be under control for this year + 1. Have to keep Shai, Giddey, JDub, Chet, and one of Muscala/Kenrich.

Given that, I could be convinced to trade for OG and maybe Collins, but that’s about it. I wonder if Vassell could be pulled from SA..

Is that the right criteria? Are there any candidates for us?

cjmcallist · Post #695 » by **cjmcallist** » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:22 pm

I’d add Patrick Williams to that list, though I haven’t seen him in any rumors.

Post #696 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:35 pm

Vassell or OG for me. However I'm not paying the rumored price that Toronto is rumored to be asking.

Dn4sty · Post #697 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:22 am

Making salaries match for Collins becomes difficult. OG would require moving Dort salary wise. It’s kinda a difficult spot in this hypothetical scenario

Post #698 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:29 pm

It's gonna be difficult salary wise for most guys because I don't think Presti is willing to move Dort.
I'm fine trading for Collins, OG or PJ Washington but I'm not THAT excited about any of them and I won't be mad if we don't make any move (except if another team gets a very good young player for a relatively cheap price).

Post #699 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:07 pm

Toronto is going to want a star's package to trade OG and he'll likely expect a star's payday to be re-signed. OG is a really nice starting piece but he isn't and never will be a star. I wouldn't say he's injury prone but he's not the most durable guy. Offensively I don't see him being able to consistently pull his weight as the third best player on a championship team. Maybe he could be that third option on a team like Brooklyn with two offensive juggernauts but we aren't built that way. I love the idea of OG but I don't see a way to make it work. Also, I'm not trading Jalen or Giddey for him.

cjmcallist · Post #700 » by **cjmcallist** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:12 am

Dadouv47 wrote:It's gonna be difficult salary wise for most guys because I don't think Presti is willing to move Dort.
I'm fine trading for Collins, OG or PJ Washington but I'm not THAT excited about any of them and I won't be mad if we don't make any move (except if another team gets a very good young player for a relatively cheap price).

Agree - I wouldn’t be too pumped about anyone of those in particular. There’s no needle movers available. I do think two years from now we’d be glad to have the depth of an OG or Collins, but they’re not changing the game for us.

Side note, I expect Collins to get back to his 20/10 on decent efficiency once he’s out of ATL.