2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[Osirus89]

Could they be a potential landing spot for Oladipo?


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New Orleans? They don't have a pick this year anymore and it wouldn't be a good pick anyway.

Come on Presti. Gallo or Chandler and Collison. Thats all I want. Chandler is on that flat earth thing. Im all for more player interview hilarity on the team. I would love to see him try to convince Steven or Russ that the Earth is flat.

[ThunderBolt]

Could they be a potential landing spot for Oladipo?


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Why? We getting Davis?

Sacramento, not New Orleans.


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[bondom34]

Could they be a potential landing spot for Oladipo?


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Why? We getting Davis?

Sacramento, not New Orleans.


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For garbage?

[ThunderBolt]

Why? We getting Davis?

Sacramento, not New Orleans.


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For garbage?

I'm one or the few who doesn't think WCS is garbage. Also, collision would be a better backup than what we have now. WCS becomes Adams backup and we move Kanter. Then we have available salary and some decent pieces.

Maybe I should say, what would we have to give up to get WCS and collision? Divac obviously had interest in Payne. Maybe he has an infatuation like he did with Heild.

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[bondom34]

Sacramento, not New Orleans.


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For garbage?

I'm one or the few who doesn't think WCS is garbage. Also, collision would be a better backup than what we have now. WCS becomes Adams backup and we move Kanter. Then we have available salary and some decent pieces.

Maybe I should say, what would we have to give up to get WCS and collision? Divac obviously had interest in Payne. Maybe he has an infatuation like he did with Heild.

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Wouldn't have to give up Dipo. Jeez I'd offer Singler for Collison the way they're going.

[hardenASG13]

Matt Barnes is expected to be waived.....might be a solid addition if nothing else works out.

[ThunderBolt]

For garbage?

I'm one or the few who doesn't think WCS is garbage. Also, collision would be a better backup than what we have now. WCS becomes Adams backup and we move Kanter. Then we have available salary and some decent pieces.

Maybe I should say, what would we have to give up to get WCS and collision? Divac obviously had interest in Payne. Maybe he has an infatuation like he did with Heild.

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Wouldn't have to give up Dipo. Jeez I'd offer Singler for Collison the way they're going.

True but I don't think WCS can be acquired that easily. Could this be a way to move Kanter?


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[bondom34]

I'm one or the few who doesn't think WCS is garbage. Also, collision would be a better backup than what we have now. WCS becomes Adams backup and we move Kanter. Then we have available salary and some decent pieces.

Maybe I should say, what would we have to give up to get WCS and collision? Divac obviously had interest in Payne. Maybe he has an infatuation like he did with Heild.

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Wouldn't have to give up Dipo. Jeez I'd offer Singler for Collison the way they're going.

True but I don't think WCS can be acquired that easily. Could this be a way to move Kanter?


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Don't know but why trade WCS now? They just moved Cousins to free up time for him.

[ThunderBolt]

True but why would the kings get logical now?

[spearsy23]

Damn, seriously, I wonder if Presti was ever involved in the Boogie Cousins talks at all? You'd think Kanter and a 1st might have been at least appealing compared to what they got. I know its a rental but gosh. That's an All Star New Orleans just got for a rookie who has had a up and down season and a first. Pretty crazy.

(also, Vivek is just bound and determined to get that illusive SG isn't he?)

Gotta have a first to be a player in this market. No rebuilding team is going to wait 5 years to see the return.

What's the excuse for the other 25 teams?

What? I was addressing rather or not presti was involved. We didn't have the assets to put together even this meager package.

[bondom34]

Gotta have a first to be a player in this market. No rebuilding team is going to wait 5 years to see the return.

What's the excuse for the other 25 teams?

What? I was addressing rather or not presti was involved. We didn't have the assets to put together even this meager package.

I'd say Sabonis, Cam, a 2022 first, and filler is pretty close. Sabonis is better than Buddy, the firsts are equally iffy. Sacto loves Buddy. They're a wreck.

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[NaturalThunder]

What's the excuse for the other 25 teams?

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Wait, did Vlade really say this? Like he vereified the fact that he had a better offer, rejected, then decided just a couple of hours later he better accept a worse offer?

If so, then this just makes an already comically one-sided trade even worse; like Vlade is making himself the laughing stock of the NBA the more he talks about the trade.

[bondom34]

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Wait, did Vlade really say this? Like he vereified the fact that he had a better offer, rejected, then decided just a couple of hours later he better accept a worse offer?

If so, then this just makes an already comically one-sided trade even worse; like Vlade is making himself the laughing stock of the NBA the more he talks about the trade.

Yep. His presser was unreal.

[spearsy23]

What's the excuse for the other 25 teams?

What? I was addressing rather or not presti was involved. We didn't have the assets to put together even this meager package.

I'd say Sabonis, Cam, a 2022 first, and filler is pretty close. Sabonis is better than Buddy, the firsts are equally iffy. Sacto loves Buddy. They're a wreck

Sabonis has a 6.6 PER vs Buddy's 9.9, and buddy was picked higher. Really the only way to claim sabonis is better is based on age. A pick this year for a team going into a rebuild has a ton more value than a pick 5 years from now, and Cam really doesn't move any needles. Plus sac would have to take on singler and his contract. Yeah, this was better than the absolute best we could do without moving Steven or Dipo.

Also, buddy is getting unfairly treated here. He's nowhere near the prospect that should get cousins, but he's been solid.

[bondom34]

What? I was addressing rather or not presti was involved. We didn't have the assets to put together even this meager package.

I'd say Sabonis, Cam, a 2022 first, and filler is pretty close. Sabonis is better than Buddy, the firsts are equally iffy. Sacto loves Buddy. They're a wreck

Sabonis has a 6.6 PER vs Buddy's 9.9, and buddy was picked higher. Really the only way to claim sabonis is better is based on age. A pick this year for a team going into a rebuild has a ton more value than a pick 5 years from now, and Cam really doesn't move any needles. Plus sac would have to take on singler and his contract. Yeah, this was better than the absolute best we could do without moving Steven or Dipo.

Also, buddy is getting unfairly treated here. He's nowhere near the prospect that should get cousins, but he's been solid.

Why use PER? And age is huge. He's literally months younger than Mclemore and Stauskas.

Sabonis, a first, Cam, heck toss Kanter in and it's easily better. This was crazy bad.

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Sabonis has a 6.6 PER vs Buddy's 9.9, and buddy was picked higher. Really the only way to claim sabonis is better is based on age. A pick this year for a team going into a rebuild has a ton more value than a pick 5 years from now, and Cam really doesn't move any needles. Plus sac would have to take on singler and his contract. Yeah, this was better than the absolute best we could do without moving Steven or Dipo.

Also, buddy is getting unfairly treated here. He's nowhere near the prospect that should get cousins, but he's been solid.

Age is huge in player development. There is a reason the computers said that Buddy was a 2nd round pick. He is old, for a rookie, and doesn't bring anything to the table except shooting. You're dream scenario is that he becomes Oladipo when reality is closer to Kyle Korver. Buddy should end up a solid role player, but he's never going to be more than that. He's definitely not the type of guy you get as a headliner for Cousins if there is anyone competent with a vote in your front office.

[spearsy23]

I'd say Sabonis, Cam, a 2022 first, and filler is pretty close. Sabonis is better than Buddy, the firsts are equally iffy. Sacto loves Buddy. They're a wreck

Sabonis has a 6.6 PER vs Buddy's 9.9, and buddy was picked higher. Really the only way to claim sabonis is better is based on age. A pick this year for a team going into a rebuild has a ton more value than a pick 5 years from now, and Cam really doesn't move any needles. Plus sac would have to take on singler and his contract. Yeah, this was better than the absolute best we could do without moving Steven or Dipo.

Also, buddy is getting unfairly treated here. He's nowhere near the prospect that should get cousins, but he's been solid.

Why use PER? And age is huge. He's literally months younger than Mclemore and Stauskas.

Sabonis, a first, Cam, heck toss Kanter in and it's easily better. This was crazy bad.

Because it's a pretty simple box score aggregator and box score is generally a better predictor of success for a rookie than impact stats.

Age isn't really that important. He's similar to redick's age coming into the NBA. He isn't a high upside guy, but domas isn't either. You're overrating our players and failing to realize the value of a pick today over one 5 years from now.

[spearsy23]

Sabonis has a 6.6 PER vs Buddy's 9.9, and buddy was picked higher. Really the only way to claim sabonis is better is based on age. A pick this year for a team going into a rebuild has a ton more value than a pick 5 years from now, and Cam really doesn't move any needles. Plus sac would have to take on singler and his contract. Yeah, this was better than the absolute best we could do without moving Steven or Dipo.

Also, buddy is getting unfairly treated here. He's nowhere near the prospect that should get cousins, but he's been solid.

Age is huge in player development. There is a reason the computers said that Buddy was a 2nd round pick. He is old, for a rookie, and doesn't bring anything to the table except shooting. You're dream scenario is that he becomes Oladipo when reality is closer to Kyle Korver. Buddy should end up a solid role player, but he's never going to be more than that. He's definitely not the type of guy you get as a headliner for Cousins if there is anyone competent with a vote in your front office.

Thank you for reiterating what I just said. And prime korver was more valuable than oladipo btw.

[bondom34]

Sabonis has a 6.6 PER vs Buddy's 9.9, and buddy was picked higher. Really the only way to claim sabonis is better is based on age. A pick this year for a team going into a rebuild has a ton more value than a pick 5 years from now, and Cam really doesn't move any needles. Plus sac would have to take on singler and his contract. Yeah, this was better than the absolute best we could do without moving Steven or Dipo.

Also, buddy is getting unfairly treated here. He's nowhere near the prospect that should get cousins, but he's been solid.

Why use PER? And age is huge. He's literally months younger than Mclemore and Stauskas.

Sabonis, a first, Cam, heck toss Kanter in and it's easily better. This was crazy bad.

Because it's a pretty simple box score aggregator and box score is generally a better predictor of success for a rookie than impact stats.

Age isn't really that important. He's similar to redick's age coming into the NBA. He isn't a high upside guy, but domas isn't either. You're overrating our players and failing to realize the value of a pick today over one 5 years from now.

Age is vastly important. It's the entire reason you draft a guy who's younger well over an older rookie. Older rookies are way less valuable.

Sacramento got a bad rookie, a mid first, and salary filler. That's it.

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Damn, seriously, I wonder if Presti was ever involved in the Boogie Cousins talks at all? You'd think Kanter and a 1st might have been at least appealing compared to what they got. I know its a rental but gosh. That's an All Star New Orleans just got for a rookie who has had a up and down season and a first. Pretty crazy.

(also, Vivek is just bound and determined to get that illusive SG isn't he?)

As high as they are on Buddy I think they would have turned down Oladipo, Abrines and Sabones. The level of incompetence being displayed in Sacramento is not rivaled by any franchise anywhere else in the sports world. They make the Miami Marlins look competent.