2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

[MiamiSun]

Miami checking in here. Trying to figure out how this 3 team deal is going to look. I can tell you now that I doubt we give up anybody other than Winslow (confirmed to Memphis), JJ and Dion plus lift the protection on the pick. Any young assets to you guys would have to come from Memphis. I could be wrong, but Riley loves the young guys (Herro, Robinson, Bam, Dunn). If we didn't give up Herro for CP3, I doubt he will be dealt for Gallo.

I hope this is a trade that works for everybody. But the players we are sending out we gave up on already.

[Balkman32]

Also I feel like Gallo is selling him self short if he signs an extension with them. Gallo can get multiple years.

It would be interesting if the Thunder offer him a contract before they make the deal to see if he wants to stick around. Because this team ain't bottoming out with CP3 on the roster.

[MiamiSun]

From our Forums in case you want to discuss:

BFRESH44 wrote:
It will be Solomon Hill and Jae Crowder to OKC

JJ, Winslow, and Dion to Memphis

Gallanari and Iguodala to Miami.

That's the only way the money works.

[Balkman32]

Miami checking in here. Trying to figure out how this 3 team deal is going to look. I can tell you now that I doubt we give up anybody other than Winslow (confirmed to Memphis), JJ and Dion plus lift the protection on the pick. Any young assets to you guys would have to come from Memphis. I could be wrong, but Riley loves the young guys (Herro, Robinson, Bam, Dunn). If we didn't give up Herro for CP3, I doubt he will be dealt for Gallo.

I hope this is a trade that works for everybody. But the players we are sending out we gave up on already.

I hear you. But, I don't think the Thunder are doing this just for draft picks. With Johnson and Waiters out the door you also save $28 million on next years cap for guys who played under a combines 400 minutes this year. The Thunder own the 21' pick unprotected and the 23' pick becomes unprotected in 26' (I have no problem waiting for that to convey, plus changing the protection on it could mean nothing if it's the 15th pick overall.) If the Thunder don't get Herro here I don't see why they are even talking. While they can take Gallo into the playoffs and move him in a S&T in the off season, and probably get something better than a 25' FRP.

[Old Man Game]

From our Forums in case you want to discuss:

BFRESH44 wrote:
It will be Solomon Hill and Jae Crowder to OKC

JJ, Winslow, and Dion to Memphis

Gallanari and Iguodala to Miami.

That's the only way the money works.

I'd be okay with that if there's some sort of draft compensation involved also.

[ThunderBolt]

Miami checking in here. Trying to figure out how this 3 team deal is going to look. I can tell you now that I doubt we give up anybody other than Winslow (confirmed to Memphis), JJ and Dion plus lift the protection on the pick. Any young assets to you guys would have to come from Memphis. I could be wrong, but Riley loves the young guys (Herro, Robinson, Bam, Dunn). If we didn't give up Herro for CP3, I doubt he will be dealt for Gallo.

I hope this is a trade that works for everybody. But the players we are sending out we gave up on already.

I think this is what makes sense. Presti is playing the long game. Despite Riley wanting to improve the roster and have flexibility for 2021, he wants to also keep supporting young guys in place If a free agent chooses to come there.

[Balkman32]

From our Forums in case you want to discuss:

BFRESH44 wrote:
It will be Solomon Hill and Jae Crowder to OKC

JJ, Winslow, and Dion to Memphis

Gallanari and Iguodala to Miami.

That's the only way the money works.

Not the only way. But, the only way it works for you. I just don't see a 2025 pick making this deal worth it. If Herro isn't in the deal I don't think its happening. Unless you just give us complete and total control of your draft picks including multiple pick swaps.

[ThunderBolt]

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[thor19]

It will be Solomon Hill and Jae Crowder to OKC

JJ, Winslow, and Dion to Memphis

Gallanari and Iguodala to Miami.

That's the only way the money works.

I checked in on the OKC board and they are screaming no deal without Herro

They arent getting Herro

[MiamiSun]

I checked in on the OKC board and they are screaming no deal without Herro

They arent getting Herro

Yeah I just don't see that, that would be us giving 3 FRP for Gallo??!!??

[Thundershock88]

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Literally no reason to do this

[Old Man Game]

I just looked at the compare a player deal on bball ref. for Crowder versus Gallo and now I'm depressed. I know Gallo is leaving eventually anyway but this hurts a bit. I think I had it in my head that Crowder was a little better than this.

http://bkref.com/tiny/2YNSL

[Dadouv47]

Oh well, since day 1 we said Gallo was worth a FRP. If we end up getting a first, that's ok. If it's only about removing protection from a pick, then it sucks in my opinion (I understand those who think otherwise). I would obviously rather put pressure on Miami and try to go for Herro while giving up more assets but that's not going to happen.

[Balkman32]

Oh well, since day 1 we said Gallo was worth a FRP. If we end up getting a first, that's ok. If it's only about removing protection from a pick, then it sucks in my opinion (I understand those who think otherwise). I would obviously rather put pressure on Miami and try to go for Herro while giving up more assets but that's not going to happen.

I just don't see the value in moving protection on these picks. 23' lottery protected for 3 years, that moves to unprotected is fine with the Thunder. Plus if the pick in 2023 is the 15th overall pick the removed protections were for nothing. Even if we get a 25' unprotected pick and they change the protections on the 23' pick to unprotected, that's still only a 25' FRP. I think that can easily be had on the open market in the off season.

If Herro isn't in this deal then I just don't see the value (in trading Gallo now) in only adding one FRP in 25' while we are the 6th seed and trying to win a playoff series.

[Old Man Game]

Jeebus, now Woj has to take time out to write about the next GM of the Knicks (to be inevitably fired when Dolan screws everything). It's trade deadline day. No one cares.

[Thundershock88]

Oh well, since day 1 we said Gallo was worth a FRP. If we end up getting a first, that's ok. If it's only about removing protection from a pick, then it sucks in my opinion (I understand those who think otherwise). I would obviously rather put pressure on Miami and try to go for Herro while giving up more assets but that's not going to happen.

I just don't see the value in moving protection on these picks. 23' lottery protected for 3 years, that moves to unprotected is fine with the Thunder. Plus if the pick in 2023 is the 15th overall pick the removed protections were for nothing. Even if we get a 25' unprotected pick and they change the protections on the 23' pick to unprotected, that's still only a 25' FRP. I think that can easily be had on the open market in the off season.

If Herro isn't in this deal then I just don't see the value (in trading Gallo now) in only adding one FRP in 25' while we are the 6th seed and trying to win a playoff series.

There has to be a young player involved for this to happen. We aren't taking their trash just because he's expiring. Miami fans are delusional about this. Presti doesn't have to make a move at all.

[Dadouv47]

Oh well, since day 1 we said Gallo was worth a FRP. If we end up getting a first, that's ok. If it's only about removing protection from a pick, then it sucks in my opinion (I understand those who think otherwise). I would obviously rather put pressure on Miami and try to go for Herro while giving up more assets but that's not going to happen.

I just don't see the value in moving protection on these picks. 23' lottery protected for 3 years, that moves to unprotected is fine with the Thunder. Plus if the pick in 2023 is the 15th overall pick the removed protections were for nothing. Even if we get a 25' unprotected pick and they change the protections on the 23' pick to unprotected, that's still only a 25' FRP. I think that can easily be had on the open market in the off season.

If Herro isn't in this deal then I just don't see the value (in trading Gallo now) in only adding one FRP in 25' while we are the 6th seed and trying to win a playoff series.

Still a long shot to win a playoff series, but I agree with you.

Obviously it's not what we are looking for because we already have so many picks. If Presti can trade those picks in the offseason or next year for some prospects, then great. But yeah it's sucks because it's na unique chance to go after Herro but Miami probably doesn't care about getting some draft picks back. They already have the young guys they want, some stars and can attract a lot of free agents. We would need to massively overpay in order to get one of their young players

[slick_watts]

getting anything for danilo gallinari is preferable to getting nothing out of him. what's so hard to grasp about this. he's going to walk in free agency. this team is not contending as-is. there's no reason at all to not accept the best value in return for him now other than a short sighted desire to sacrifice value for some more competitive playoff games. our goal as an org. should be to collect assets and increase the value of our assets to prepare for a rebuild. even removing protections on the miami pick and getting another pick would do that. you don't need to hit a home run on every transaction to make the transaction worth it.

[Dadouv47]

Oh well, since day 1 we said Gallo was worth a FRP. If we end up getting a first, that's ok. If it's only about removing protection from a pick, then it sucks in my opinion (I understand those who think otherwise). I would obviously rather put pressure on Miami and try to go for Herro while giving up more assets but that's not going to happen.

I just don't see the value in moving protection on these picks. 23' lottery protected for 3 years, that moves to unprotected is fine with the Thunder. Plus if the pick in 2023 is the 15th overall pick the removed protections were for nothing. Even if we get a 25' unprotected pick and they change the protections on the 23' pick to unprotected, that's still only a 25' FRP. I think that can easily be had on the open market in the off season.

If Herro isn't in this deal then I just don't see the value (in trading Gallo now) in only adding one FRP in 25' while we are the 6th seed and trying to win a playoff series.

There has to be a young player involved for this to happen. We aren't taking their trash just because he's expiring. Miami fans are delusional about this. Presti doesn't have to make a move at all.

Don't think so. If Woj wrote about the 2023 protection pick, it's because the deal is about the draft picks. It's not like we could get a good young prospect and Miami to remove protection...

[Dadouv47]

getting anything for danilo gallinari is preferable to getting nothing out of him. what's so hard to grasp about this. he's going to walk in free agency. this team is not contending as-is. there's no reason at all to not accept the best value in return for him now other than a short sighted desire to sacrifice value for some more competitive playoff games. our goal as an org. should be to collect assets and increase the value of our assets to prepare for a rebuild. even removing protections on the miami pick and getting another pick would do that. you don't need to hit a home run on every transaction to make the transaction worth it.

Fair enough. Guess it will be a better trade for Miami than for us but we will still get some value...