2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

Dn4sty · Post #81 » by **Dn4sty** » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:08 am

I know Simons name has been mentioned a bunch (and I’m all in on him), but I wonder what his actual value is.

I doubt Portland would move him just in a Gallo for Baze+Simons deal. I’m not sure they would include him even if OKC added the Denver pick as well.

Then I’m just thinking out loud here but here are the probable sellers and the players I’d be interested in off their teams. Not every seller has players I’m interested in.

EAST:
Knicks (Trier and Ntilikina)
Bulls (Markannen or maybe WCJ)
Pistons (Kennard)
Hornets (Monk)

WEST:
Spurs (White and Murray but Murray can’t be traded till summer basically)
Suns (Bridges but they might be buyers)

Dn4sty · Post #82 » by **Dn4sty** » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:09 am

I know Simons name has been mentioned a bunch (and I’m all in on him), but I wonder what his actual value is.

I doubt Portland would move him just in a Gallo for Baze+Simons deal. I’m not sure they would include him even if OKC added the Denver pick as well.

Then I’m just thinking out loud here but here are the probable sellers and the players I’d be interested in off their teams. Not every seller has players I’m interested in.

EAST:
Knicks (Trier, Ntilikina, and Knox but he’s probably not available)
Bulls (Markannen or maybe WCJ)
Pistons (Kennard)
Hornets (Monk)

WEST:
Spurs (White and Murray but Murray can’t be traded till summer basically)
Suns (Bridges but they might be buyers)

Post #83 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:46 pm

If there is any truth to the Dejounte Murray rumors, he’s a guy thats worth parting with assets for, in my opinion.. He’s not been great this year but it seems to me that a lot of these guys that return from acl injury aren’t back to themselves when they finally return. If he’s available we should be calling, It doesn’t make sense to me that the spurs should move him unless Popovich is getting impatient because he knows the end is near.

spearsy23 · Post #84 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:55 pm

I'd reserve not go down the road with another pg that can't shoot.

Post #85 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:58 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I'd reserve not go down the road with another pg that can't shoot.

Ideally I would too. I only do the deal If you can get the deal done for something like Gallo and a pick for Murray and whatever salary they don’t want. Even with Russ I maintained that not being able to shoot wouldn’t have been as big of a deal if he had taken better shots. If factor in the fact that he was 2nd team nba all defense his rookie year I think it could work, especially if your bigs have some range. I would rather buy low on Murray than Ntilikina even if Murray’s price isn’t quite as cheap. I would give up too much though.

spearsy23 · Post #86 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:41 am

The way Murray is viewed scares me. He's going to get overpaid based on potential. He may realize that potential, but I don't want to be the team that bets on it. Frank is different, he's a buy low candidate that maybe becomes a serviceable backup or spot starter but if not doesn't really cost you. I'd like a very good defensive pg to pair with sga, but you shouldn't pay a premium for that.

Balkman32 · Post #87 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 6:03 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:If there is any truth to the Dejounte Murray rumors, he’s a guy thats worth parting with assets for, in my opinion.. He’s not been great this year but it seems to me that a lot of these guys that return from acl injury aren’t back to themselves when they finally return. If he’s available we should be calling, It doesn’t make sense to me that the spurs should move him unless Popovich is getting impatient because he knows the end is near.

What's the rumor? I am 100% in on Murray. His 4 year $64 million dollar contract goes into effect starting next year. He is a fit with SGA. He is only 2 years older than SGA so he is on the same timeline as well. I know the Spurs have always been fascinated with CP3. Maybe there is a deal here that can work for both teams.

Post #88 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 6:24 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:If there is any truth to the Dejounte Murray rumors, he’s a guy thats worth parting with assets for, in my opinion.. He’s not been great this year but it seems to me that a lot of these guys that return from acl injury aren’t back to themselves when they finally return. If he’s available we should be calling, It doesn’t make sense to me that the spurs should move him unless Popovich is getting impatient because he knows the end is near.

What's the rumor? I am 100% in on Murray. His 4 year $64 million dollar contract goes into effect starting next year. He is a fit with SGA. He is only 2 years older than SGA so he is on the same timeline as well. I know the Spurs have always been fascinated with CP3. Maybe there is a deal here that can work for both teams.

Amidst the Derozan trade rumors, Demar deleted all his posts which is what he did right before he got traded last time. Murray also unfollowed the Spurs. This happened right after Murray got moved to the bench for his poor play. This is hardly anything ominous but its enough to have a massive thread on the gb.

Post #89 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 9:29 am

So Conley still sucks. Just sayin...

Balkman32 · Post #90 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 8:00 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:So Conley still sucks. Just sayin...

Would you do a straight up deal CP3 for Conley?

The Thunder get out of the Lux Tax, save $6 million this year and $3 million next year, and they get off of the $44 million player option in the 21-22 season. over $50 million in savings for the Thunder.

The Jazz won't have any cap room. They are on the older side with really only Mitchell being a young guy.

Post #91 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 8:25 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:So Conley still sucks. Just sayin...

Would you do a straight up deal CP3 for Conley?

The Thunder get out of the Lux Tax, save $6 million this year and $3 million next year, and they get off of the $44 million player option in the 21-22 season. over $50 million in savings for the Thunder.

The Jazz won't have any cap room. They are on the older side with really only Mitchell being a young guy.

Without knowing what’s going on behind closed doors with Chris Paul it’s hard to say but I would strongly consider it.

Post #92 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 9:48 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:So Conley still sucks. Just sayin...

Would you do a straight up deal CP3 for Conley?

The Thunder get out of the Lux Tax, save $6 million this year and $3 million next year, and they get off of the $44 million player option in the 21-22 season. over $50 million in savings for the Thunder.

The Jazz won't have any cap room. They are on the older side with really only Mitchell being a young guy.

Yes I think OKC should do it. CP is playing very well, but I don't think that deal gets easier to move in the offseason. I also think Conley can't have fallen off this quickly and it has to be somehow system based. I would have faith in flipping Conley's exp in the offseason for something back.

BowlRips · Post #93 » by **BowlRips** » Wed Dec 4, 2019 3:32 pm

would you guys take expiring contracts and dennis smith for CP3 and 1 or 2 draft picks.
Was thinking Denver's 2020 and the 2nd most favorable of 2021.

Balkman32 · Post #94 » by **Balkman32** » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:08 pm

BowlRips wrote:would you guys take expiring contracts and dennis smith for CP3 and 1 or 2 draft picks.
Was thinking Denver's 2020 and the 2nd most favorable of 2021.

I don't think we need/ want Dennis Smith. But, I think the Thunder would be interested in dealing Denver's 2020 pick with CP3 for expiring contracts.

I think the Thunder might be more interested in Frank Ntilikina than Dennis Smith. But, I don't think they have interest in trading a pick in 2021 for either of those guys. The prospects the Thunder are most interested is draft picks. At least they might be on the roster at a decent contract and control, rather than one of these guys.

Post #95 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:08 pm

BowlRips wrote:would you guys take expiring contracts and dennis smith for CP3 and 1 or 2 draft picks.
Was thinking Denver's 2020 and the 2nd most favorable of 2021.

I wouldn't

Maybe just for the Miami 2021 FRP

CROklahoma · Post #96 » by **CROklahoma** » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:12 pm

Lets assume the chances our our guys being traded by the deadline, and 2-3 teams aswell.

Gallinari 80% - Toronto, Clippers, Lakers
CP3 50% - Miami, Orlando, Bucks
Adams 40% - Celtics, Kings, San Antonio
Schroeder 25%

Post #97 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:15 pm

Feel like it's going to be way more difficult than we thought to trade Gallo. Portland won't give up a 1st for him (they are far from contending, Melo is doing ''ok'' and Hood got injured). Could see the Lakers having some interest but they can't trade/don't have any FRP I think!?

CROklahoma · Post #98 » by **CROklahoma** » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:17 pm

I think there will be 10 teams which are in a playoff hunt, interested when trade deadline starts to envelop. This is the longest season without moves since 60's if I recall a information I read.

And yes, even Portland will still like to unload some of the stuff that dont work for them, along the pick, for Galinari. They dont have any time to wait with their group, they are in a situation like we were before

Post #99 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:37 pm

I don’t think Portland is where Gallo ends up. They seem pretty content with their group, especially after guaranteeing melo.

Post #100 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:44 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I don’t think Portland is where Gallo ends up. They seem pretty content with their group, especially after guaranteeing melo.

Agree but who will trade for him then? :-?