2024-2025 OKC Thunder Games Thread

Big nick · Post #81 » by **Big nick** » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:23 am

Left after falling on his rt hip looks very bad.

shakes0 · Post #82 » by **shakes0** » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:20 pm

I'm so sad about this right now. I'm gonna take a break from NBA. I'll come back when Chet comes back. Plenty of college ball to watch and for some reason, that sport doesn't have half the good players out injured.

Post #83 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:08 pm

this is nuts. pelvic fracture is the sort of traumatic injury you see in car accidents. i know the thunder press release says he is expected to play this season, but this is truly uncharted waters when it comes to professional basketball prognosis. i could only find one single basketball case, from brazil- and it was a stress fracture, different from what chet has suffered. if there is any silver lining it's that this is the best possible pelvic fracture to have if you are going to have one.

the offense was already having trouble with chet, i would be pleasantly surprised if they are much better than .500 without him.

shakes0 · Post #84 » by **shakes0** » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:36 pm

slick_watts wrote:this is nuts. pelvic fracture is the sort of traumatic injury you see in car accidents. i know the thunder press release says he is expected to play this season, but this is truly uncharted waters when it comes to professional basketball prognosis. i could only find one single basketball case, from brazil- and it was a stress fracture, different from what chet has suffered. if there is any silver lining it's that this is the best possible pelvic fracture to have if you are going to have one.

the offense was already having trouble with chet, i would be pleasantly surprised if they are much better than .500 without him.

the impact Chet had from that fall was easily hard enough to mimic a bad car accident.

Minus a major trauma, the injury usually happens to old people. My mom fell on vacation 5 years ago and landed on the sidewalk and broke her pelvis.

Unfortunately with Chet's body and the way he plays, these types of traumatic and serious injuries are not really that surprising.

bbms · Post #85 » by **bbms** » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:46 pm

so there'll be surgery or no?

Post #86 » by **slick_watts** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:30 pm

bbms wrote:so there'll be surgery or no?

we had better hope not.

anyway, the thunder season has started out a lot like last one. they are -9.2% on offensive rebounding differential (2nd worst since 2004-5), which is being more than offset by a historic +6.7% turnover differential (#1 since 2004-05 by a mile). thunder finished -5.1% and +2.2% on these last year, respectively.

i think we can weather some regression on turnovers when isaiah hartenstein returns. he should improve our rebounding situation some, hopefully get us back to where we left off last year at minimum. and also stabilize shot defense in chet's absence. we cannot afford any regression there. hartenstein himself is turnover prone, especially in his projected role offensively, but he'll be a net positive regardless.

aside from his milquetoast performance offensively with shai on the bench, i've been real impressed with jalen williams this season so far. he's rebounding a lot better and contesting a ton of shots at or near the rim. he (and the rest of the team) might be taking too many risks on defense but it's working for now. against smart teams that move the ball well it will be tougher, like golden state or dallas.

bbms · Post #87 » by **bbms** » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:56 pm

posting a bit late but it's uncanny how often these 5-guard lineups are forcing turnovers, been discussing with a former brazilian national team sg and he still is to grasp other benefits from going all small that are not offensive

if the thunder can sustain that turnover rate playing all small, maybe we're scratching a tactical innovation here. first time ever we maybe ahead of nba's curve

Devilanche · Post #88 » by **Devilanche** » Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:27 am

Yea , we can get away with 2-3 weeks worth of game playing ultra small whole game but probably not good for whole seasons / increased injuries chance.

Seems to be ok for now though.

Mr Thunder Nick · Post #89 » by **Mr Thunder Nick** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:28 am

Sh** I will miss Caruso against Doncic and Irving.

bbms · Post #90 » by **bbms** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:38 am

this team's offense has issues that needs to be solved, this game has been unsufferable

Mr Thunder Nick · Post #91 » by **Mr Thunder Nick** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:29 am

Good old Lu......going to the basket he is still as bad as he always was. Dear Lu do what you are able to do.

Post #92 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:29 pm

This has the feeling of a season that peaked in the preseason before injuries started. Caruso shooting 18% from three is something I didnt expect.

Post #93 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:15 pm

Read on Twitter

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Post #94 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:46 am

Through three quarters our offense is pretty broken.

cjmcallist · Post #95 » by **cjmcallist** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:46 pm

What's up people!

Mixed feelings about the last few games. Something's going on with Shai - I think defenses are keying on him differently and he's struggling to figure out how to adjust, but I can't really tell. But something's up.

Hartenstein totally changed the game last night and I loved it. It was super fun. Having him and Chet active will be an awesome change up.

Post #96 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:03 pm

cjmcallist wrote:What's up people!

Mixed feelings about the last few games. Something's going on with Shai - I think defenses are keying on him differently and he's struggling to figure out how to adjust, but I can't really tell. But something's up.

Hartenstein totally changed the game last night and I loved it. It was super fun. Having him and Chet active will be an awesome change up.

Yeah I was very unimpressed with Shai last night. He's still awesome with some of the things he does but his decision making wasn't great. I'm not sure if it's because he feels more pressure with so many guys injured but there were too many bad drives. Honestly I'm a bit concerned that even if/when everyone is healthy, we have some bigger issues to sort out.

Post #97 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:03 pm

cjmcallist wrote:What's up people!

Mixed feelings about the last few games. Something's going on with Shai - I think defenses are keying on him differently and he's struggling to figure out how to adjust, but I can't really tell. But something's up.

Hartenstein totally changed the game last night and I loved it. It was super fun. Having him and Chet active will be an awesome change up.

Yeah I was very unimpressed with Shai last night. He's still awesome with some of the things he does but his decision making wasn't great. I'm not sure if it's because he feels more pressure with so many guys injured but there were too many bad drives. Honestly I'm a bit concerned that even if/when everyone is healthy, we have some bigger issues to sort out.

Big nick · Post #98 » by **Big nick** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:31 pm

One of sgas problem is all the double and triple teaming he is getting along with the non foul calls. And the very poor three point shooting, man we can't hit them and won't slow down the attempts. But he doesn't seem to be himself.

Post #99 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:28 pm

Big nick wrote:One of sgas problem is all the double and triple teaming he is getting along with the non foul calls. And the very poor three point shooting, man we can't hit them and won't slow down the attempts. But he doesn't seem to be himself.

I don't think Shai will ever be an accurate high volume three point shooter. It's one of the reasons we need Chet and supporting cast to do so. Joe is a good shooter but wildly inconsistent. Dort is a poor shooter but seems to trick people in to believing otherwise with his hot streaks. Wallace isn't shooting well from three. Chet is hurt. Caruso hasn't been great. Shai is what he is. We are kind of a fake good shooting team. We desperately need J dub to be a combination of prime paul george and klay thompson.

Xatticus · Post #100 » by **Xatticus** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:58 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
cjmcallist wrote:What's up people!

Mixed feelings about the last few games. Something's going on with Shai - I think defenses are keying on him differently and he's struggling to figure out how to adjust, but I can't really tell. But something's up.

Hartenstein totally changed the game last night and I loved it. It was super fun. Having him and Chet active will be an awesome change up.

Yeah I was very unimpressed with Shai last night. He's still awesome with some of the things he does but his decision making wasn't great. I'm not sure if it's because he feels more pressure with so many guys injured but there were too many bad drives. Honestly I'm a bit concerned that even if/when everyone is healthy, we have some bigger issues to sort out.

The biggest issue with Shai for me is that he gets sticky with the ball. This has always been an issue, but we never really cared because we didn’t have the talent to compete until last year and he seemed to make progress last season. It was a problem in the Dallas series last year. He has to get the ball out quicker and trust the offense.

This is the first season where his scoring is down and I’d guess that he is trying to force things, but you just have to play good ball and trust that the stat line will take care of itself.

I will reiterate though, that we are right near the top despite dealing with injuries and a sputtering offense. The NBA season is long and it isn’t how we are playing right now that matters. To be where we are right now despite everything just gives an indication of what our ceiling is.