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Post#901 » by Old Man Game » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:33 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Is the best way to develop Shai and others is to give them the green light do whatever they want? I question that philosophy. Seeing him shoot at will and take step back threes has potential to speed up his development but also to ingrain bad habits. Hopefully if only one year of Donovan remains there can't be too much damage done in one season.


He looked like the sort of guy who management has told he's the guy and now he's trying to live up to that.


That's kind of how this franchise operates. Everyone from Russ to Jerami Grant had the freedom to do what they wanted. Shai is likely a high enough IQ player that it won't make a huge difference in the long run.


Shai seems like a sharp dude but I don't think we can take anything for granted.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#902 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:46 pm

I won't blame him for trying a bit too much in preseason games. I'm a bit worried that our roster is not optimal to develop our young guys though (one or two good vets is nice but we have too much older guys right now).

Time will tell I guess. Hopes on SGA are very high for many fans that it won't surprise me if he isn't playing that well in his first year in OKC. It will need some time to know if he's indeed the guy we hope he can be.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#903 » by spearsy23 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:56 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Is the best way to develop Shai and others is to give them the green light do whatever they want? I question that philosophy. Seeing him shoot at will and take step back threes has potential to speed up his development but also to ingrain bad habits. Hopefully if only one year of Donovan remains there can't be too much damage done in one season.

This is how preseason operates, it's about trying out those things you put in over the summer and seeing if they work, not playing winning basketball.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#904 » by spearsy23 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:00 pm

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I really hope Katz comes back.

I was wondering why Dawson had been completely absent with preseason starting. Would've been nice if they'd actually gotten this crap done prior to there being stuff to talk about. Maybe we'll at least get someone who wants to break games down, most of the articles for the last couple months have been 'ferg had a baby and it helps his perspective' and other worthless (if mostly well written) commentary.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#905 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:42 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Is the best way to develop Shai and others is to give them the green light do whatever they want? I question that philosophy. Seeing him shoot at will and take step back threes has potential to speed up his development but also to ingrain bad habits. Hopefully if only one year of Donovan remains there can't be too much damage done in one season.

This is how preseason operates, it's about trying out those things you put in over the summer and seeing if they work, not playing winning basketball.

That’s also how we’ve played for the last decade.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#906 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:44 pm

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I really hope Katz comes back.

I was wondering why Dawson had been completely absent with preseason starting. Would've been nice if they'd actually gotten this crap done prior to there being stuff to talk about. Maybe we'll at least get someone who wants to break games down, most of the articles for the last couple months have been 'ferg had a baby and it helps his perspective' and other worthless (if mostly well written) commentary.


I like Dawson’s writing but the articles have definitely been too few and far between. Fortunately there is pretty good content by other writers. Sam Veneie’s breakdown of the young guys was pretty in depth.
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Post#907 » by Old Man Game » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:33 pm

Remember when the preseason was 8 games long. That was insane in retrospect.
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Post#908 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:36 pm

Roberson on load management until the playoffs :lol: :banghead:
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Post#909 » by jambalaya » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:05 am

Thunder were 2nd lowest among NBA teams in preseason on assists per game and no real change tonight.
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Post#910 » by Old Man Game » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 am

Bazley's interesting. I think he'll have to develop some semblance of an offensive game to be effective but you can't deny there's some court vision there. Point Forward potential.
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Post#911 » by Pillendreher » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:04 am

jambalaya wrote:Thunder were 2nd lowest among NBA teams in preseason on assists per game and no real change tonight.


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Post#912 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:28 am

Old Man Game wrote:Bazley's interesting. I think he'll have to develop some semblance of an offensive game to be effective but you can't deny there's some court vision there. Point Forward potential.

Yep. I remember some good games by Diallo and Ferguson early on but it was simply scoring points. Bazley has some very intriguing intangibles. A kid that hasn't played since high school doing stuff like this is a reason to be optimistic. Yes its just preseason but I don't recall ever really seeing Ferguson or Diallo do stuff like this.



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Post#913 » by Old Man Game » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:06 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:Bazley's interesting. I think he'll have to develop some semblance of an offensive game to be effective but you can't deny there's some court vision there. Point Forward potential.

Yep. I remember some good games by Diallo and Ferguson early on but it was simply scoring points. Bazley has some very intriguing intangibles. A kid that hasn't played since high school doing stuff like this is a reason to be optimistic. Yes its just preseason but I don't recall ever really seeing Ferguson or Diallo do stuff like this.



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I'm going to be really interested to see how it translates to real games especially once there's a scouting report. Could see other teams almost giving him the Roberson treatment of standing like 15 feet off of him to close up driving lanes.
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Post#914 » by thedoppelganger » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pm

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Beal staying in DC for at least this year means the Heat and other teams will have to look elsewhere for an All star guard to trade for..
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Beal staying in DC for at least this year means the Heat and other teams will have to look elsewhere for an All star guard to trade for..


Could be a very good news for us. Somehow miami fans were dreaming about getting Beal soon or in free agency. Now they can't get him. Doesn't mean they will trade for CP3 but it increase the odds at least
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#916 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:31 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:Bazley's interesting. I think he'll have to develop some semblance of an offensive game to be effective but you can't deny there's some court vision there. Point Forward potential.

Yep. I remember some good games by Diallo and Ferguson early on but it was simply scoring points. Bazley has some very intriguing intangibles. A kid that hasn't played since high school doing stuff like this is a reason to be optimistic. Yes its just preseason but I don't recall ever really seeing Ferguson or Diallo do stuff like this.



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I'm going to be really interested to see how it translates to real games especially once there's a scouting report. Could see other teams almost giving him the Roberson treatment of standing like 15 feet off of him to close up driving lanes.

If he’s playing the four rather than the two, that will help. I don’t think he’s Durant but I don’t think his shot looks as busted as Dre or even Diallo. By the way, Diallo had some of the worst looking free throws I’ve ever seen against the Mavs.
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Post#917 » by Pillendreher » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:54 pm

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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#918 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:27 pm

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Beal staying in DC for at least this year means the Heat and other teams will have to look elsewhere for an All star guard to trade for..


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I would honestly be happier if Dennis were gone than cp3. At least Paul has skills that could be beneficial to Shai. I dislike Schroder more than you disliked grant.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#919 » by Pillendreher » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:28 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
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Beal staying in DC for at least this year means the Heat and other teams will have to look elsewhere for an All star guard to trade for..


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I would honestly be happier if Dennis were gone than cp3. At least Paul has skills that could be beneficial to Shai. I dislike Schroder more than you disliked grant.


That's impossible.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild 

Post#920 » by Old Man Game » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:32 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
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ThunderBolt wrote: Yep. I remember some good games by Diallo and Ferguson early on but it was simply scoring points. Bazley has some very intriguing intangibles. A kid that hasn't played since high school doing stuff like this is a reason to be optimistic. Yes its just preseason but I don't recall ever really seeing Ferguson or Diallo do stuff like this.



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I'm going to be really interested to see how it translates to real games especially once there's a scouting report. Could see other teams almost giving him the Roberson treatment of standing like 15 feet off of him to close up driving lanes.

If he’s playing the four rather than the two, that will help. I don’t think he’s Durant but I don’t think his shot looks as busted as Dre or even Diallo. By the way, Diallo had some of the worst looking free throws I’ve ever seen against the Mavs.


I think he even airballed one didn't he? I think that guy needs to become Tony Allen if he wants to remain in the league. Problem is that's a lot easier said than done. Probably ends up another Jeremy Evans.

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