2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

[ThunderBolt]

If his illness was this bad then there's no way he was going to come back from it at 100%. From the thunder buddies pod it sounds like a lot of vomiting and diarrhea, which means he probably has been dehydrated and eating very little for the last two weeks. It's going to take time for him to get back to even his normal meh level.

Get the guy an IV and some anti-nausea meds like Zofran. This isn't 1925. Short of something very serious (like, life threatening serious) he should have been able to bounce back from this much quicker than we've seen (at least, physically).

This just isn't realistic. You're expecting a guy to go play in an NBA game while he's been puking and crapping his guts out for two weeks. It's like telling zhaire to grab an epi-pen and get back on the court, or Hami to take an aspirin and suck it up.

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous. If he could've played then he would've, and it's completely unfair to deem him a malingerer when you have no clue how sick he was.

Some people are more sickly and injury prone. Alex is one of those people. No one is saying he’s faking but it’s not like he’s a guy you can rely on to be out there no matter what. We are in year three of this. It’s just how it goes with him.

[spearsy23]

Get the guy an IV and some anti-nausea meds like Zofran. This isn't 1925. Short of something very serious (like, life threatening serious) he should have been able to bounce back from this much quicker than we've seen (at least, physically).

This just isn't realistic. You're expecting a guy to go play in an NBA game while he's been puking and crapping his guts out for two weeks. It's like telling zhaire to grab an epi-pen and get back on the court, or Hami to take an aspirin and suck it up.

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous. If he could've played then he would've, and it's completely unfair to deem him a malingerer when you have no clue how sick he was.

Some people are more sickly and injury prone. Alex is one of those people. No one is saying he’s faking but it’s not like he’s a guy you can rely on to be out there no matter what. We are in year three of this. It’s just how it goes with him.

He played in 75 games last year.

[ThunderBolt]

This just isn't realistic. You're expecting a guy to go play in an NBA game while he's been puking and crapping his guts out for two weeks. It's like telling zhaire to grab an epi-pen and get back on the court, or Hami to take an aspirin and suck it up.

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous. If he could've played then he would've, and it's completely unfair to deem him a malingerer when you have no clue how sick he was.

Some people are more sickly and injury prone. Alex is one of those people. No one is saying he’s faking but it’s not like he’s a guy you can rely on to be out there no matter what. We are in year three of this. It’s just how it goes with him.

He played in 75 games last year.

And struggled with tendonitis in his knee from playing for the Spanish national team. I remember multiple times of him leaving a game where he hit his head and being questionable to return or play the next game. It already happened once this year. No one is suggesting he be euthanized. I don’t think he’s very durable and wouldn’t be the least but surprised to see injuries/illness be an issue for him throughout his career. I’ve just lowered my expectations of him and would probably cut ties at the end of the season if he can’t stay healthy. If he is re-signed it needs to be very cheaply.

[alessandrux]

The reality is that if there was any consistent way to teach people to shoot then everyone in the NBA would be able to.

I know. I probably haven't phrased it right.

I don't ask our players to become (way) better shooters, I just want them to not get worse the moment they get here. And that is something most teams seems to be capable to do.

[ThunderBolt]

The reality is that if there was any consistent way to teach people to shoot then everyone in the NBA would be able to.

I know. I probably haven't phrased it right.

I don't ask our players to become (way) better shooters, I just want them to not get worse the moment they get here. And that is something most teams seems to be capable to do.

Not everyone is going to improve but it’s also naive to think everyone puts in the same amount of work. Look at guys like Oladipo, Patterson, Julius Randle and others who made a commitment to their bodies in the offseason. How these guys played in the league for years and we’re overweight/out of shape is beyond me. I’m thirty five and have been a weightlifter since is was 16. I’m no cover model but I’ve always been able to see my abs and most of the time I haven’t been strict about macros. I mentioned last night that Jokic looks like a giant 12 year old boy. Not everyone can improve their shooting to Steph curry level but It would be interesting to know how much some of these guys really try.

[ThunderBolt]

I would like to publicly admit my error in judgement. Russ may be out of shape but he isn’t pudgy.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25370338

[slick_watts]

I would like to publicly admit my error in judgement. Russ may be out of shape but he isn’t pudgy.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25370338

looks like he's taking synthol injections.

[Old Man Game]

If his illness was this bad then there's no way he was going to come back from it at 100%. From the thunder buddies pod it sounds like a lot of vomiting and diarrhea, which means he probably has been dehydrated and eating very little for the last two weeks. It's going to take time for him to get back to even his normal meh level.

Get the guy an IV and some anti-nausea meds like Zofran. This isn't 1925. Short of something very serious (like, life threatening serious) he should have been able to bounce back from this much quicker than we've seen (at least, physically).

This just isn't realistic. You're expecting a guy to go play in an NBA game while he's been puking and crapping his guts out for two weeks. It's like telling zhaire to grab an epi-pen and get back on the court, or Hami to take an aspirin and suck it up.

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous. If he could've played then he would've, and it's completely unfair to deem him a malingerer when you have no clue how sick he was.

Haha, what? Dude. Barfing is a physiological process. Modern medicine can mediate that process. If you've ever seen a woman with morning sickness take zofran you'll know what I'm talking about. It's miraculous.

[spearsy23]

Get the guy an IV and some anti-nausea meds like Zofran. This isn't 1925. Short of something very serious (like, life threatening serious) he should have been able to bounce back from this much quicker than we've seen (at least, physically).

This just isn't realistic. You're expecting a guy to go play in an NBA game while he's been puking and crapping his guts out for two weeks. It's like telling zhaire to grab an epi-pen and get back on the court, or Hami to take an aspirin and suck it up.

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous. If he could've played then he would've, and it's completely unfair to deem him a malingerer when you have no clue how sick he was.

Haha, what? Dude. Barfing is a physiological process. Modern medicine can mediate that process. If you've ever seen a woman with morning sickness take zofran you'll know what I'm talking about. It's miraculous.

... How many women have you seen take zofran then play in an NBA game?

[Old Man Game]

This just isn't realistic. You're expecting a guy to go play in an NBA game while he's been puking and crapping his guts out for two weeks. It's like telling zhaire to grab an epi-pen and get back on the court, or Hami to take an aspirin and suck it up.

Seriously, you guys are ridiculous. If he could've played then he would've, and it's completely unfair to deem him a malingerer when you have no clue how sick he was.

Haha, what? Dude. Barfing is a physiological process. Modern medicine can mediate that process. If you've ever seen a woman with morning sickness take zofran you'll know what I'm talking about. It's miraculous.

... How many women have you seen take zofran then play in an NBA game?

Zofran works for both men and women. If the excuse is he was puking and he can take drugs that can effectively stop him from puking, what's the excuse? He missed almost a week mind you. Look, all I'm saying is barfing alone wouldn't explain the absence we saw.

[Dn4sty]

Would Jodie Meeks be worth a look?

Would immediately be one of the best shooters on the team. I just wonder if it would make more sense to sign Burton to a full rookie scale deal.

[spearsy23]

Haha, what? Dude. Barfing is a physiological process. Modern medicine can mediate that process. If you've ever seen a woman with morning sickness take zofran you'll know what I'm talking about. It's miraculous.

... How many women have you seen take zofran then play in an NBA game?

Zofran works for both men and women.

Uh, no ****?

If the excuse is he was puking and he can take drugs that can effectively stop him from puking, what's the excuse? He missed almost a week mind you. Look, all I'm saying is barfing alone wouldn't explain the absence we saw.

Yes, vomiting and diarrhea would easily explain the absence we saw. As it turns out humans aren't designed to run and jump at an NBA level when they've been losing fluids and unable to keep any foods down. Taking ondansetron isn't some miracle cure, even if you stop vomiting long enough to make it through an NBA game it's going to leave you feeling even more lethargic. This is probably the dumbest argument of the season, why aren't you all over Hami for missing games with his sprained ankle? This is the same damn thing.

[bondom34]

Yeah if you're puking and crapping everything out for a week you're not playing a game. If you were like that for a day it takes a few to get back let alone longer.

[Old Man Game]

... How many women have you seen take zofran then play in an NBA game?

Zofran works for both men and women.

Uh, no ****?

If the excuse is he was puking and he can take drugs that can effectively stop him from puking, what's the excuse? He missed almost a week mind you. Look, all I'm saying is barfing alone wouldn't explain the absence we saw.

Yes, vomiting and diarrhea would easily explain the absence we saw. As it turns out humans aren't designed to run and jump at an NBA level when they've been losing fluids and unable to keep any foods down. Taking ondansetron isn't some miracle cure, even if you stop vomiting long enough to make it through an NBA game it's going to leave you feeling even more lethargic. This is probably the dumbest argument of the season, why aren't you all over Hami for missing games with his sprained ankle? This is the same damn thing.

We aren't actually having much of an argument. You said it was serious barfing. I said it couldn't be just that given modern medicine. Then you proved you can google things by using the chemical name and referencing a possible side effect for the drug I referenced.

Look, bottom line, are you going to seriously act like it wasn't weird to miss a goddamn week over stomach virus? How many players over the years have you seen play with the flu (Jordan flu game, anyone)? That happens fairly regularly.

[slick_watts]

if any of my employees missed more than one day with a stomach virus i would fire them. abrines sounds like a sissy tbh.

[getrichordie]

if any of my employees missed more than one day with a stomach virus i would fire them. abrines sounds like a sissy tbh.

Wow. I’ve had a stomach virus that kept me out of work for 2 days. And on the 3rd day (and back at work) I was still **** pretty frequently. That’s not uncommon. But a week? That’s a long time. But we are talking about the NBA, not your regular 9-5 job.


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[getrichordie]

Here’s a glance at how well the Thunder are defending shots:



Hami is a nice surprise.

Patterson has not been defending well or doing anything well really.

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[CROklahoma]

Patterson is quite literally, the worst player on our roster right now, our new Singler, but his old Toronto reputation is still holding him over the water surface, barely, but it's getting to the point where his minutes in the rotation are critical for the team ...

[getrichordie]

Patterson is quite literally, the worst player on our roster right now, our new Singler, but his old Toronto reputation is still holding him over the water surface, barely, but it's getting to the point where his minutes in the rotation are critical for the team ...

Burton has played limited minutes, but he’s at a -0.6 differential. I’d honestly rather give all of Patterson’s minutes to Burton at this juncture; give him some time to show what he can consistently do.

Not sure if the knee injury is the culprit, but Patterson looks like he’s 30 going on 37 out there. He just looks slow. I think he’d look better off on a slower pace team like the Grizzlies or Spurs.


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[CROklahoma]

I dont see him on our roster past trade deadline ...