I wonder what is going to happen with Green?

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I wonder what is going to happen with Green? 

Post#1 » by wiff » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:38 am

Looks like he and the Thunder have broken off talks with each other according to the realgm wire tap.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69814/20101029/green_thunder_break_off_extension_talks/

I wonder if this has any weight towards Green starting, or coming off the bench? This year is going to be interesting. I wonder if anyone who is currently on the bench is irked and feels they should start?

If this team keeps winning this season I don't know if there is much to complain about with who gets the start, although I have my preferences. The biggest thing is that I want to win.

I really want Collison to heal up quick.
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Post#2 » by jaybound » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:56 am

I honestly think right now Presti is just wanting to let the market decide Green's value. If we could keep him as a 6th man role that would be so great, but if we can clear some space an acquire the big man we need that's great too.
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Post#3 » by ubernathan » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:59 am

Unless he improves his rebounding this season, he won't be worth the money he'll command. The Thunder would be wiser to let him walk and look elsewhere than to overpay for his services.
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Post#4 » by slick_watts » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:54 pm

jaybound wrote:I honestly think right now Presti is just wanting to let the market decide Green's value. If we could keep him as a 6th man role that would be so great, but if we can clear some space an acquire the big man we need that's great too.


Agreed. Any deal Green signs now would be an overpayment. Both parties will probably benefit from him seeing RFA: Green gets another seaeson to bolster his value and Presti will allow the market to set Green's price.
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Post#5 » by HeartSouloma » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:35 pm

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jaybound wrote:I honestly think right now Presti is just wanting to let the market decide Green's value. If we could keep him as a 6th man role that would be so great, but if we can clear some space an acquire the big man we need that's great too.


Agreed. Any deal Green signs now would be an overpayment. Both parties will probably benefit from him seeing RFA: Green gets another seaeson to bolster his value and Presti will allow the market to set Green's price.


But can we trade him? I mean i understand that if Green walks out then we have enough cap space to sign max players, but i was just wondering. I will sure miss Green. I wish we could resign him so he can be our sixth man. I wonder what teams would want him. I'm thinking Magics, Blazers, Maybe Nicks, GS, etc...
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Post#6 » by D Facial Favors » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:46 pm

Do you guys think Green is better suited as a 3?

On the Nets board I was having a discussion with a fellow fan over whether a Green - Favors - Lopez frontcourt be a beautiful thing if Melo decides to stay in Detroit.

Thoughts?
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Post#7 » by slick_watts » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:03 pm

KDfan35 wrote:But can we trade him? I mean i understand that if Green walks out then we have enough cap space to sign max players, but i was just wondering. I will sure miss Green. I wish we could resign him so he can be our sixth man. I wonder what teams would want him. I'm thinking Magics, Blazers, Maybe Nicks, GS, etc...


He could be traded, but I just really doubt it considering how fond Scott Brooks is of him. He gets big minutes no matter how he performs and is generally thought of as a piece of the core.

Lots of teams will be interested in Green, especially if the team does better this year.

D Facial Favors wrote:Do you guys think Green is better suited as a 3?

On the Nets board I was having a discussion with a fellow fan over whether a Green - Favors - Lopez frontcourt be a beautiful thing if Melo decides to stay in Detroit.

Thoughts?


Yes, Green is definitely a SF, not a PF. He should be on a team where he can play SF and play spot minutes at PF not the other way around. He's a good perimeter defender, and can pound the ball in the post against SF's.
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Post#8 » by Jimmy76 » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:00 pm

I think Green would be similar to Rudy Gay on a team where he could play the small forward and be the main scoring forward
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Post#9 » by ClubLakers KB8 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:41 am

Personally, I think Ibaka is the 4 of the future (and present) for the Thunder. His athleticism and shotblocking is too valuable.

Westbrook, Thabo, Durant, Ibaka... it's all in place.

You just need a post scorer. I'd use Green as bait to land that player and use the draft to round out the bench. Harden is a potential 6th man of the year and potential future stud, you still have Aldrich and Maynor... damn.
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Post#10 » by ubernathan » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:09 am

Carl Landry would be a good fit... maybe Green for Landry?
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Post#11 » by kd35sneighbor » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:12 am

^Carl Landry isn't starter worthy nor is he a championship calibur PF. We need someone taller who can play D at the same time stretch the floor.
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Re: I wonder what is going to happen with Green? 

Post#12 » by IanChang » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:51 pm

To me a more reliable interior defender is much more important. While Ibaka is good at shot blocking he has trouble defending P&R. I expect Cole to fit this spot, as a qualified defensive C.
I'd like to see the line up Russ+Thabo+KD+Ibaka+Cole in near future, Green as a 6th man with Harden.
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Post#13 » by Joel Embust » Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:56 pm

IanChang wrote:I'd like to see the line up Russ+Thabo+KD+Ibaka+Cole in near future, Green as a 6th man with Harden.



You need Harden in the starting lineup if you put Ibaka and Cole together up front.

Russ and Thabo aren't the greatest of perimeter scorers and Ibaka and Cole don't have a (consistent) low post game. You need a guy who can score the ball from deep, slash and get to the line/deliver a pass and that's what Harden brings to the table.
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Post#14 » by IanChang » Tue Nov 2, 2010 4:18 pm

Eleqtrique wrote:
IanChang wrote:I'd like to see the line up Russ+Thabo+KD+Ibaka+Cole in near future, Green as a 6th man with Harden.



You need Harden in the starting lineup if you put Ibaka and Cole together up front.

Russ and Thabo aren't the greatest of perimeter scorers and Ibaka and Cole don't have a (consistent) low post game. You need a guy who can score the ball from deep, slash and get to the line/deliver a pass and that's what Harden brings to the table.


You are right. Harden can be the best choice to this line up, but in recent games he didn't play as well as expected...
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Post#15 » by HeartSouloma » Tue Nov 2, 2010 6:10 pm

IanChang wrote:
Eleqtrique wrote:
IanChang wrote:I'd like to see the line up Russ+Thabo+KD+Ibaka+Cole in near future, Green as a 6th man with Harden.



You need Harden in the starting lineup if you put Ibaka and Cole together up front.

Russ and Thabo aren't the greatest of perimeter scorers and Ibaka and Cole don't have a (consistent) low post game. You need a guy who can score the ball from deep, slash and get to the line/deliver a pass and that's what Harden brings to the table.


You are right. Harden can be the best choice to this line up, but in recent games he didn't play as well as expected...


Harden can score. Don't blame Harden for playing 18 minutes a game, blame coach Brooks for giving Cook 30 minutes a game and not Harden....
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Post#16 » by wiff » Wed Nov 3, 2010 1:10 am

Let's say Jeff Green gets traded. I actually think the guy would be a great 6th man but for some reason Brooks keeps starting him. He didn't get an extension his future is up in the air to a degree with the team.

So what if he gets traded? I know there are some who feel they can get an up grade by trading Green. Throw togeher a little package of Green and a DJ White or a Byron Mullens. Heck maybe go for broke and pair Green up with Ibaka toss in the Clippers pick that OKC owns and see what kind of player you could get back.

What realistic package would you want to see happen with Jeff Green?
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Re: I wonder what is going to happen with Green? 

Post#17 » by Clangus » Wed Nov 3, 2010 1:14 am

KDfan35 wrote:
Harden can score. Don't blame Harden for playing 18 minutes a game, blame coach Brooks for giving Cook 30 minutes a game and not Harden....


That's (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Cook has played 14 MPG not 30.
Harden has shot 18% - its on him to hit some **** shots. Its nothing to do with minutes. If he shootes better he'll see more floor time duh
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Post#18 » by sonictecture » Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:59 am

I"m all for making players accountable for their play, but it's also up to the coaches to put players in a position to be successful.

We've seen good and bad play from Harden since he was drafted. Good play usually happens when Harden is both a facilitator and finisher, a shooter and slasher. These are the skills that make him special. The bad play usually happens when Harden is asked to be nothing but a spot up or bail out shooter in the offense. This results in bad shooting percentages, bad overall ball movement and inconsistent play.

Brooks has decided to put the job of facilitating offense in the hands of Westbrook and Durant. As a result Harden and Cook have been asked to space the floor and be spot up shooters. This is suppose to be Cook's skill set, although the results have been disappointing. This is not however how Harden should be used.

In my mind Brooks is setting Harden up to fail. This is not a question of sacrificing for the greater good of the team. Brooks is failing to utilize the talent on this team properly. He is failing to implement offensive and defensive systems that give the team an advantage equal to their ability. Brooks seems afraid to adjust what worked for him last year regardless of how other teams adapt or how his own roster changes.
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Post#19 » by HeartSouloma » Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:51 pm

sonictecture wrote:I"m all for making players accountable for their play, but it's also up to the coaches to put players in a position to be successful.

We've seen good and bad play from Harden since he was drafted. Good play usually happens when Harden is both a facilitator and finisher, a shooter and slasher. These are the skills that make him special. The bad play usually happens when Harden is asked to be nothing but a spot up or bail out shooter in the offense. This results in bad shooting percentages, bad overall ball movement and inconsistent play.

Brooks has decided to put the job of facilitating offense in the hands of Westbrook and Durant. As a result Harden and Cook have been asked to space the floor and be spot up shooters. This is suppose to be Cook's skill set, although the results have been disappointing. This is not however how Harden should be used.

In my mind Brooks is setting Harden up to fail. This is not a question of sacrificing for the greater good of the team. Brooks is failing to utilize the talent on this team properly. He is failing to implement offensive and defensive systems that give the team an advantage equal to their ability. Brooks seems afraid to adjust what worked for him last year regardless of how other teams adapt or how his own roster changes.


Not mention how Brooks don't even know how to adjust. But don't worry if Brooks keeps on doing this, then he will be deal with soon.
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Re: I wonder what is going to happen with Green? 

Post#20 » by sixersinsider » Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:23 am

Green Ibaka filler could net you a iggy speights type of package. I don't trust Green at all (seems like he chokes when it's money time) but I am willing to overpay for ibaka. Ro

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