Serge Ibaka - best case senario?

Clangus · Post #1 » by **Clangus** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:54 am

Lets say he becomes our starting PF with 34+mins a night. What do you guys see as his eventual ceiling?
Does he have it in him to be a 20/10/ 2.5blk guy? a 15/9/1.8 guy? Is he what is is going to be? He is very young, and has great physical tools, seems to work hard and has shown alot of improvement from last year to this. (I am extremely impresed with his 20% jump in ft%!)

Ceiling?
What do you see as his peak numbers?

Post #2 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:49 pm

Every time I put a cap on Ibaka he surprises me.

I don't think he'll ever be able to score 20 points a game, especially on this team. He can't dribble, he's mostly a spot up jump shooter / finisher at this point. He does those thins pretty well, though.

His rebounding has suffered a lot this season compared to last, presumably because he's played in a lot of small lineups.

I'll say 16/9/2 will be his prime productivity on high scoring efficiency with decent defense.

fallacy · Post #3 » by **fallacy** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:32 pm

15/12/3 with very very good efficiency

Sinant · Post #4 » by **Sinant** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:24 pm

I think he can be a double digit rebounder. Right now he's averaging 6 and a half boards in 26 minutes playing a different position every few weeks.

With positional stability and 35-38mpg, I think he could be a 10-11 rebound guy.

dream_catcher_9 · Post #5 » by **dream_catcher_9** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:57 pm

14-16 PPG, 8-10 RPG, 2-3BPG, elite help defense, and elite efficiency.

He wont score 20 just because he isn't a guy who needs to ball to score. His points will come from the mid range game, garbage points, and the occasional post up. Defensively I don't think he will ever be a elite man to man defender because he bites on pump fakes to often, but I do see him becoming a elite help defender/shot blocker. Solid rebounder but not great.

All that said if you combine that with a Center who can box out all the time, play great man D, and play fundamentally then you have a beast front court. Hello Cole Aldrich, and Nick Collison when he is healthy.

wiff · Post #6 » by **wiff** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:44 am

The kid is still so young, it's really hard to put a ceiling on him.

But for once I agree with Slick on something about Ibaka. I think 16/9/2 is about where his ceiling is today. Maybe another half a block, but I think 16/9 is pretty close.

Who knows though the kid could quite possibly get that next season.

I used to think Ibaka could grab 10 boards a game, and if that is what Brooks told him to focus on I have no doubt the kid could do it. But considering his job is to go out and protect the rim by blocking/changing shots, he takes him self out of position for the defensive rebound frequently. Now Cole Aldrich and Nick Collison should get an endorsement from windex for cleaning up the glass after Ibaka alters the shot. That is when Aldrich actually finds the floor.

16pts as a 3rd/4th option on a high FG% works for me. But I don't see him getting 20pts a game either.

Sebzor · Post #7 » by **Sebzor** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:23 pm

i see Ibaka as a 12/12/3
he ain't gonna score much but he doesn't have to, he's in there to play D and rebound

Thunder4 · Post #8 » by **Thunder4** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:34 am

I think that ibaka can average 16 and 9 and 2 next year if he was given the minutes. Which is all that the thunder would need from the starting PF when you have a scoring PG and a Machine at the SF. I think that Ibaka has been watching a few Kevin Garnett tapes and it would be nice if he kept watching. He is more like the KG in Boston not the one putting up insane numbers on a terrible T'Wolves team.

Aaron Brooks · Post #9 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:15 am

How come Ibaka isn't starting over Kristic? What he lacks in size he more than makes up for in length and athleticism

HeartSouloma · Post #10 » by **HeartSouloma** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:18 pm

Aaron Brooks wrote:How come Ibaka isn't starting over Kristic? What he lacks in size he more than makes up for in length and athleticism

Because OKC is trying to develope Ibaka into a starting PF. Yes I do agree with you, but Ibaka is more of a natural PF than a C.

I say Ibaka would get around 12/8/1

bbms · Post #11 » by **bbms** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:44 pm

OMG, Ibaka already 2.2 blocks in lesser minutes, i Think his ceiling is to be an elite defensive player and sollid offensive.

If OKC brings Marc Gasol or Nene, I think he could add 12/12/3 in 34 minutes. He has a nice close to mid jumper, but the C would be more called to post scoring game.

wiff · Post #12 » by **wiff** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:57 pm

Do you guys know how hard it is to grab 12rebs a game?

Only a handful of guys have done since the 2001/2 season.

KG 6 times
Dwight Howard 5 times
Ben Wallace 4 times
Tim Duncan 3 times
Eric Dampier 1 time
Tyson Chandler 1 time
Marcus Camby 1 time

So 7 guys in the last tens years have managed to do that.

Right now in 26minutes Serge is pulling in 6.5rebs so in an extra 9 minutes you guys think he can practically double that?

I just don't see 12rebs ever and I'm a huge Ibaka homer.

HeartSouloma · Post #13 » by **HeartSouloma** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:58 pm

bbms wrote:OMG, Ibaka already 2.2 blocks in lesser minutes, i Think his ceiling is to be an elite defensive player and sollid offensive.

If OKC brings Marc Gasol or Nene, I think he could add 12/12/3 in 34 minutes. He has a nice close to mid jumper, but the C would be more called to post scoring game.

Yep and if bring Marc or Deandre we good to go! And don't forget we got some daft picks too, and i hope we get lucky in the daft once more.