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What should the Thunder do with Jeff Green?
1. Let him go as a free agent
2. Match the offer sheet that he signs.
3. Trade him before the deadline.

After the game against LA, in addition to his recent struggles, Jeff has got to go. Im sure a lot of teams will offer a dumpload of money for his services so I dont see Presti matching any offers.

I love Uncle Jeff but we need a real power forward if we want to beat teams like the Lake Show.

I see him staying right here. I do not see him getting a contract offer this offseason.

Out of your possibalities i say #2, if he even gets an offer. But, it the offer is redick, he will not be back.

Balkman32 wrote:I see him staying right here. I do not see him getting a contract offer this offseason.

Out of your possibalities i say #2, if he even gets an offer. But, it the offer is redick, he will not be back.

I'm sure a team like the Clips would love to pick him up. He has all the physical tools to be a Rudy Gayesque type player. He'd fit brilliantly in their system. As an up and coming young team, the Clippers are a threat to us. I'd hate to see them acquire his talents and use him correctly against us.

Hey guys. I'm actually a Raptors fan and we on the Raps forum are VERY high on Jeff Green. We'd definitely be interested in getting him on our squad this summer I was wondering (since it seems like you guys want to move him) what would be a reasonable price for him. He will be a Restricted Free Agent this summer meaning that teams can "bid" on him (for a lack of a better word). OKC has the right to match the bid and keep him or let him go to the bidding team. So I guess the first question is, how much to you think Presti will match until he decides to let Green walk? Second, would the Bosh TPE we have in T.O be a fair return in a hypothetical sign and trade?

Hobes wrote:

Balkman32 wrote:I see him staying right here. I do not see him getting a contract offer this offseason.

Out of your possibalities i say #2, if he even gets an offer. But, it the offer is redick, he will not be back.

I'm sure a team like the Clips would love to pick him up. He has all the physical tools to be a Rudy Gayesque type player. He'd fit brilliantly in their system. As an up and coming young team, the Clippers are a threat to us. I'd hate to see them acquire his talents and use him correctly against us.

Jeff Green is not in the same stratosphere as Rudy Gay.

Rapsfan07 wrote:Hey guys. I'm actually a Raptors fan and we on the Raps forum are VERY high on Jeff Green. We'd definitely be interested in getting him on our squad this summer I was wondering (since it seems like you guys want to move him) what would be a reasonable price for him. He will be a Restricted Free Agent this summer meaning that teams can "bid" on him (for a lack of a better word). OKC has the right to match the bid and keep him or let him go to the bidding team. So I guess the first question is, how much to you think Presti will match until he decides to let Green walk? Second, would the Bosh TPE we have in T.O be a fair return in a hypothetical sign and trade?

First off We are all very new to Presti and it doesn't seem like he'd overpay to keep Green. I'd say 9-10mill is a large offer for Green and I would hope we dont match that, however Presti might be attached to "his guys" and match anything up to 10 mil. I hope not though

Im hoping (perhaps unrealistically) that Green signs for 6-8 mill per. he certainly isn't helping his value with his recent play. But because other teams might want him as a SF maybe he isn't hurting it as much as it seems?!

As far as the Bosh TPE goes - I think you throw in a pick and Presti might go at it. He seems to love to pile up assets, so its a possibility that he might go for something like that if Green is asking to much. I know I would TPE and a TDot first for Green. Yes please.

We all need to remember that Green's agent is Falk and that basically means that Green will get his and the negotiations may not be all that nice. I hate Falk.

Clangus wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:Hey guys. I'm actually a Raptors fan and we on the Raps forum are VERY high on Jeff Green. We'd definitely be interested in getting him on our squad this summer I was wondering (since it seems like you guys want to move him) what would be a reasonable price for him. He will be a Restricted Free Agent this summer meaning that teams can "bid" on him (for a lack of a better word). OKC has the right to match the bid and keep him or let him go to the bidding team. So I guess the first question is, how much to you think Presti will match until he decides to let Green walk? Second, would the Bosh TPE we have in T.O be a fair return in a hypothetical sign and trade?

First off We are all very new to Presti and it doesn't seem like he'd overpay to keep Green. I'd say 9-10mill is a large offer for Green and I would hope we dont match that, however Presti might be attached to "his guys" and match anything up to 10 mil. I hope not though

Im hoping (perhaps unrealistically) that Green signs for 6-8 mill per. he certainly isn't helping his value with his recent play. But because other teams might want him as a SF maybe he isn't hurting it as much as it seems?!

As far as the Bosh TPE goes - I think you throw in a pick and Presti might go at it. He seems to love to pile up assets, so its a possibility that he might go for something like that if Green is asking to much. I know I would TPE and a TDot first for Green. Yes please.

We all need to remember that Green's agent is Falk and that basically means that Green will get his and the negotiations may not be all that nice. I hate Falk.

Well I know you all really need some bigs. What about TPE + Dorsey or Amir? Your guess as to how much he'd be getting pad is around about what I was thinking. What y'allz beed with him over here? And btw, with the way our season is going, NO WAY I throw in T.O's 1st. Hell no. It looks like that's gonna be a Top 5 pick this yea.

I'm not sure if any of you read the comments over at newsok. I plucked 2 written by Darnell Mayberry. While the game review all sounds bright and sunny his comments i think shows a different perspective.

http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/01/20/video-catching-up-with-cole-aldrich/

Yes. We bring up these things to Brooks all the time. But it’s not something that can be discussed every day or after every game. If you’re interested in the process, what I generally do is talk to the players and coaches about a topic before it goes to print. Then I make myself available after the article is in the paper, and there is often a discussion about it after it runs, especially if it’s critical or analytical. That was the case with the recent Jeff Green article. But the bottom line is this is still a very young team. Players are far from finished products. And they’re improving. I would say that every one in the organization is aware of all the things that you and others are probably seeing. Fans frequently blow certain things out of proportion. But every team has its flaws. I don’t necessarily agree with everything I see. But my job as the beat writer isn’t to blast Brooks and the players for those things. Besides, that wouldn’t change anything anyway. This market is not nearly as tough as others when it comes to asking tough questions. But in my opinion, which I base off past experiences, if you’re constantly bringing up negatives you’re going to get tuned out. And fast. So it’s a fine line. What I try to do is be fair and present both sides. The Thunder is doing a lot of things well, too. And those things can’t be ignored solely because some things aren’t always pretty. -DM-

http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/01/19/question-of-the-day-2/?custom_click=lead_story_title

MM, I saw those numbers. My only reservation about that theory, and the idea of plus/minus in general, is who were those lineups playing against? I don’t claim to know the answer. But it’s possible that Russ/Thabo/KD/Ibaka/Krstic played against more inferior opponents more often than the lineup of Russ/Thabo/KD/Green/Ibaka. Just a thought. But at the end of the day, Ibaka substituting for either Krstic or Green in the starting lineup still isn’t ideal. The majority of Green’s minutes still would have to come at power forward. So that’s not the issue I’d be trying to solve by moving Ibaka into the first five. Green’s still the better player. He still does good things, and he deserves minutes. That’s why I’d leave him there. But Ibaka is clearly the long term prospect and I’d want to see his development get accelerated. Plus, I believe his skills will make up for Green’s weaknesses more than Krstic’s skills. The flip side of the coin if Ibaka and Krstic are starters is neither one can defend stretch 4s, the Josh Smiths, Dirk Nowitzkis, David Lees and David Wests of the league. I’m not saying he’s great at doing it, but no one ever gives Green credit for the value that he brings in that area. Ibaka can’t provide that versatility. -DM-

Comment by David Skelton on January 20, 2011

Is Darnell seriously defending Jeff Green's starting status, in part, because of his ability to guard players like David West? The same David West we had to put Kevin Durant on because Green was getting pulverized?

Clangus wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:Hey guys. I'm actually a Raptors fan and we on the Raps forum are VERY high on Jeff Green. We'd definitely be interested in getting him on our squad this summer I was wondering (since it seems like you guys want to move him) what would be a reasonable price for him. He will be a Restricted Free Agent this summer meaning that teams can "bid" on him (for a lack of a better word). OKC has the right to match the bid and keep him or let him go to the bidding team. So I guess the first question is, how much to you think Presti will match until he decides to let Green walk? Second, would the Bosh TPE we have in T.O be a fair return in a hypothetical sign and trade?

First off We are all very new to Presti and it doesn't seem like he'd overpay to keep Green. I'd say 9-10mill is a large offer for Green and I would hope we dont match that, however Presti might be attached to "his guys" and match anything up to 10 mil. I hope not though

Im hoping (perhaps unrealistically) that Green signs for 6-8 mill per. he certainly isn't helping his value with his recent play. But because other teams might want him as a SF maybe he isn't hurting it as much as it seems?!

As far as the Bosh TPE goes - I think you throw in a pick and Presti might go at it. He seems to love to pile up assets, so its a possibility that he might go for something like that if Green is asking to much. I know I would TPE and a TDot first for Green. Yes please.

We all need to remember that Green's agent is Falk and that basically means that Green will get his and the negotiations may not be all that nice. I hate Falk.

say for example Toronto offered him 10.5 million a season (the worth of our TE) + 8% annual increases per year for 5 years or something like that. it would be like 5 years 60 million (i know drastically overpaying but you have to do that for RFA and he fits perfectly at SF for us) do you think the Thunder match?

do you think this is a plausible scenario.

- Toronto signs Green to an offer sheet of 10.5 million starting salary + 8% annual increases for 5 years or something like that.
- OKC looks hard at that but with Westbrooks extension next year, Ibaka and Harden the year after that and the fact that Green got abused in the playoffs (lets say hypothetically he has another bad playoff performance and cant guard PFs)
- OKC goes **** i dont think we can match that for a guy that really should be our 6th man
- Goes to Toronto and says rescind the offer sheet and well S&T him to you for your TE + the rights to whoever you draft with the miami pick.
- Green accepts the rescinded offer because if OKC signs him he gets 10.5 % annual increases
- Toronto does it to keep their players rights and keep their MLE
- OKC does it to get a 10.5 million TE + the rights to the miami pick which would likely be a big.

i dont know why but i see that happening. That way Presti can justify letting him go. Because 1) too much and you have other guys that need to be taken care of, 2) got a huge TE to fill out the PF/C position with a more cap friendly person and 3) got a 1st rounder out of it.

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:

Clangus wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:Hey guys. I'm actually a Raptors fan and we on the Raps forum are VERY high on Jeff Green. We'd definitely be interested in getting him on our squad this summer I was wondering (since it seems like you guys want to move him) what would be a reasonable price for him. He will be a Restricted Free Agent this summer meaning that teams can "bid" on him (for a lack of a better word). OKC has the right to match the bid and keep him or let him go to the bidding team. So I guess the first question is, how much to you think Presti will match until he decides to let Green walk? Second, would the Bosh TPE we have in T.O be a fair return in a hypothetical sign and trade?

First off We are all very new to Presti and it doesn't seem like he'd overpay to keep Green. I'd say 9-10mill is a large offer for Green and I would hope we dont match that, however Presti might be attached to "his guys" and match anything up to 10 mil. I hope not though

Im hoping (perhaps unrealistically) that Green signs for 6-8 mill per. he certainly isn't helping his value with his recent play. But because other teams might want him as a SF maybe he isn't hurting it as much as it seems?!

As far as the Bosh TPE goes - I think you throw in a pick and Presti might go at it. He seems to love to pile up assets, so its a possibility that he might go for something like that if Green is asking to much. I know I would TPE and a TDot first for Green. Yes please.

We all need to remember that Green's agent is Falk and that basically means that Green will get his and the negotiations may not be all that nice. I hate Falk.

say for example Toronto offered him 10.5 million a season (the worth of our TE) + 8% annual increases per year for 5 years or something like that. it would be like 5 years 60 million (i know drastically overpaying but you have to do that for RFA and he fits perfectly at SF for us) do you think the Thunder match?

do you think this is a plausible scenario.

- Toronto signs Green to an offer sheet of 10.5 million starting salary + 8% annual increases for 5 years or something like that.
- OKC looks hard at that but with Westbrooks extension next year, Ibaka and Harden the year after that and the fact that Green got abused in the playoffs (lets say hypothetically he has another bad playoff performance and cant guard PFs)
- OKC goes **** i dont think we can match that for a guy that really should be our 6th man
- Goes to Toronto and says rescind the offer sheet and well S&T him to you for your TE + the rights to whoever you draft with the miami pick.
- Green accepts the rescinded offer because if OKC signs him he gets 10.5 % annual increases
- Toronto does it to keep their players rights and keep their MLE
- OKC does it to get a 10.5 million TE + the rights to the miami pick which would likely be a big.

i dont know why but i see that happening. That way Presti can justify letting him go. Because 1) too much and you have other guys that need to be taken care of, 2) got a huge TE to fill out the PF/C position with a more cap friendly person and 3) got a 1st rounder out of it.

Exactly along the lines I was thinking of. I can really see this playing out next summer. If I'm BC though, I try and offer Dorsey or cash before I cough up the Miami pick

slick_watts wrote:Is Darnell seriously defending Jeff Green's starting status, in part, because of his ability to guard players like David West? The same David West we had to put Kevin Durant on because Green was getting pulverized?

I think i just pick the lines i find interesting.

-Players are far from finished products. And they’re improving. I would say that every one in the organization is aware of all the things that you and others are probably seeing.

-But my job as the beat writer isn’t to blast Brooks and the players for those things. This market is not nearly as tough as others when it comes to asking tough questions. But in my opinion, which I base off past experiences, if you’re constantly bringing up negatives you’re going to get tuned out.

-The majority of Green’s minutes still would have to come at power forward.

-Ibaka is clearly the long term prospect and I’d want to see his development get accelerated

-flip side of the coin if Ibaka and Krstic are starters is neither one can defend stretch 4s ( I dont see Green defending David west well tbh though)

I think in effect what he meant was that the team still need time, improvement doesnt happen the way fans would like it to happen which is really fast and that with Presti being close to the training and stuff he probably see the things but the moves he wants to make are probably not open to us at this time. Considering his article on green and that he consider it isnt right to blast them he probably see Green at PF as a major problem but he still has to be nice about it as a beat writer.

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
say for example Toronto offered him 10.5 million a season (the worth of our TE) + 8% annual increases per year for 5 years or something like that. it would be like 5 years 60 million (i know drastically overpaying but you have to do that for RFA and he fits perfectly at SF for us) do you think the Thunder match?

do you think this is a plausible scenario.

- OKC looks hard at that but with Westbrooks extension next year, Ibaka and Harden the year after that and the fact that Green got abused in the playoffs (lets say hypothetically he has another bad playoff performance and cant guard PFs)
- OKC goes **** i dont think we can match that for a guy that really should be our 6th man
- Goes to Toronto and says rescind the offer sheet and well S&T him to you for your TE + the rights to whoever you draft with the miami pick.
- Green accepts the rescinded offer because if OKC signs him he gets 10.5 % annual increases
- Toronto does it to keep their players rights and keep their MLE
- OKC does it to get a 10.5 million TE + the rights to the miami pick which would likely be a big.

i dont know why but i see that happening. That way Presti can justify letting him go. Because 1) too much and you have other guys that need to be taken care of, 2) got a huge TE to fill out the PF/C position with a more cap friendly person and 3) got a 1st rounder out of it.

6-7m: Easily matched
8m: Matched if Presti/Brooks really like him inspite of his flaws. I dont think you'll find many fans agreeing at this pricepoint
9m: We'll be mad to match.
>10m: Seriously no, it'll destroy all the good capspace work he done.

Seems order of importance to me is Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden.
Kind of hard to see Green not being abused in the playoffs though. He's probably overmatched with San Antonio, Dallas, Lakers, Utah.

Based on our needs, we probably need a 3pt shooter in the backcourt + an experienced center so that pretty much rule out the whole Toronto roster. I mean we rather take a chance on Ibaka at PF than bargnani, or hope on DJ white/Latavious Williams than Ed Davis. Durant backup in any trade is probably furthest in our mind, we can always stick in Harden/Thabo there or try out Williams there. So other than the 1st round picks, 2nd round picks you have, everything else doesn't interest us. Not sure how much value we'll place on a TE though.

With the emergence of Serge Ibaka , I would say that the thunder should let Jeff walk afte the year but if they do this , i think that they would haveto resign Kristic for another year or 2 , 3 the most. He is 7'0 and is solid offensively and Defensively.

I think that Serge is a big upgrade offensively if he can consistently knock down that mid range because with Kristic and him knoacking that shot down the thunder can space the court enough and defenisvely we get a animal. I think that the thunder can than bring BJ, Pliess or Cole as a backup with the veteran collison or we could even give DJ White som time.

Trade Jeff Green for Jason Thompson.

Hope we can trade Jeff Green for Jason Thompson.