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So, he's officially out as Houston's HC.

Any chance Presti makes a move? Would you want him to?

I know the odds of Presti firing Brooks and hiring Adelman are about -10% unless Durant and Westbrook bust in his office and go "get rid of Brooks" but I wanna know how Thunder fans feel about it.

Adelman's a great coach but there's zero reason to replace Brooks with anybody so far... We've only gotten better under his tenure up to this point.

I would do dances in the street if this happened, Adelman is a top five coach in the league. Brooks has a great relationship with the players though it seems (part of his weakness) and it won't happen.

slick_watts wrote:I would do dances in the street if this happened, Adelman is a top five coach in the league. Brooks has a great relationship with the players though it seems (part of his weakness) and it won't happen.

If Thunder want to make a leap into real title contenders, a coach upgrade is also a must.

In any area of life, you have stages, and you have to upgrade. When you're learning something, you can love a lot your first teacher, but when you've become too good for him, you need to upgrade the teacher, no matter how hard it could be.

IMO, this would happen to the Thunder, current coach have done it great, has cool friendship with players (as said, perhaps that's more of a weakness more than a strenght). But if the OKC Thunder want to make it up to the next level, it would be difficult to find a coach better and more seasoned than the future HOF Adelman, right now with no team.

BTW, he was not discarded because of bad coaching, which was great, considering he lost the top paid players due to injury. Imagine what would Phil Jackson do, if Kobe and Gasol go down, with the rest of the team, that's what happened to Adelman.

Now Rockets appear to be in rebuilding mode, and want a coach dedicated more to development of young players rather than winning (they consider they don't have enough roster to contend right now).

It's just a matter of what you want for your team, perhaps it's cool to watch it right now, but sooner or later, the next level is the next stop. The roster is too strong right now to ignore it. And right now, an inside scoring threat and a seasoned coach, would take the Thunder to such level, IMO.

I think it'll be a huge mistake to keep Brooks.

He's clearly why we don't have a convincing offense and strong defense despite the numbers.

Aw... F*** the numbers, f*** that Coach of the Year crap.

dartherus wrote:It's just a matter of what you want for your team, perhaps it's cool to watch it right now, but sooner or later, the next level is the next stop. The roster is too strong right now to ignore it. And right now, an inside scoring threat and a seasoned coach, would take the Thunder to such level, IMO.

How true. IDK what would happen with Brooks? Make him an assistant again? It would be great for him to learn under Adelman. That would be perfect from an intellectual viewpoint, but would be awkward from an ego / emotional viewpoint.

I think realistically we are stuck with Brooks for awhile. Especially if we go deep in the playoffs.

It'd be frustrating passing on Sloan and Adelman for Brooks.

CKRT wrote:I think realistically we are stuck with Brooks for awhile. Especially if we go deep in the playoffs.

I'm sure it's the case, it would be too hard to replace Brooks, just saying that OKC has a golden opportunity right now, with Adelman free out there.

The more realistic scenario is that a contending team will get him, perhaps Miami?

dartherus wrote:

CKRT wrote:I think realistically we are stuck with Brooks for awhile. Especially if we go deep in the playoffs.

I'm sure it's the case, it would be too hard to replace Brooks, just saying that OKC has a golden opportunity right now, with Adelman free out there.

The more realistic scenario is that a contending team will get him, perhaps Miami?

Yeah, Pat Riley is the man...

Goodness is the worst enemy of excellence, where would Spurs and Tim Duncan have been placed in NBA's history without Pop?

dartherus wrote:

CKRT wrote:I think realistically we are stuck with Brooks for awhile. Especially if we go deep in the playoffs.

I'm sure it's the case, it would be too hard to replace Brooks, just saying that OKC has a golden opportunity right now, with Adelman free out there.

The more realistic scenario is that a contending team will get him, perhaps Miami?

Miami would only make a coach change following a terrible playoff run.. and I don't see that happening. If we make it to the WCF, there's no way we dump Brooks that quickly, especially since the management has grown the reputation as "slow but sure" developers of this team.

Besides, I don't see why all of you guys are so done with Brooks already? Pop, Sloan, and Adelman all had to win first to be perceived as the winners they are today. Let's see what Brooks does this post season before we pack his bags for him.

we don't have an offensive or defensive strategy is why we want him gone. he's a great motivator but the guy just does not do X's and O's well at all.

If we don't make it to the WCF oi would pick him or Jerry Sloan up in a heart beat!

bbms wrote:I think it'll be a huge mistake to keep Brooks.

He's clearly why we don't have a convincing offense and strong defense despite the numbers.

Aw... F*** the numbers, f*** that Coach of the Year crap.

I'm sure most of us here believes that the team is good in spite of him rather than the team is good because of him camp. His biggest achievement was getting a young team to believe in what he says and buying into making an effort on defence. His weakness of X and O could be overcome if he have a decent assistant. Either way kind of unlikely to see him go if he doesn't mess up.

edit: At least he going away from a regular 9 man rotation though the timings still seems sort of mechanical. I'm not quite sure what to make of another offseason focus on purely defence though.

The only way I see Scott Brooks leaving the Thunder franchise is if some college offers him some big fat deal to be their head coach. Otherwise for the foreseeable future I do not see Brooks leaving

bbms wrote:It'd be frustrating passing on Sloan and Adelman for Brooks.

This sums up my feelings about it pretty much exactly.

Unless Brooks does something wrong he will be the coach for a while.

I've always thought Brooks was Presti's first choice to develop into a championship coach. Brooks buys into Presti's culture and philosophy, his price tag is much lower than that of an established Adelman or Sloan and his age allows him to continue to grow with the players, fitting with Presti's sustainability model.

The primary reason that Adelman and Sloan are no longer with their previous clubs is they disagreed on the direction of the general manager. Both coaches are older, set in their ways and although talented, neither has coached a team to a championship.

Jackson, Poppovich and Rivers were both given the opportunity to develop into championship coaches. Weaknesses were addressed through smart assistant coaches. Tex Winters developed the triangle offense for Jackson, Thibedou and Frank coached the defense for Rivers.

Every coach is questioned and second guessed for strategy, substitutions and game management. The grass isn't always greener. I'm for sticking with Brooks and giving him the tools to succeed.

sonictecture wrote:Jackson, Poppovich and Rivers were both given the opportunity to develop into championship coaches. Weaknesses were addressed through smart assistant coaches. Tex Winters developed the triangle offense for Jackson, Thibedou and Frank coached the defense for Rivers.

Every coach is questioned and second guessed for strategy, substitutions and game management. The grass isn't always greener. I'm for sticking with Brooks and giving him the tools to succeed.

These are exactly my thoughts, put much more eloquently.

Thibodeau is recognized for creating Celtics' defensive system, but why did their defense kept high level when he left and why our defense regressed when Ron Adams left?