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So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price range
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:46 am
by Krodis
Please?
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:28 am
by bbms
Varejão on one leg is better than Ibaka and Perkins together.
Varejao is like Collison 2.0 Turbo. I'd feel really comfortable rotating him, Collison, Thabeet and Durant alone. Better than now imo. If Perry get along, than we would be set. The main thing is to keep him healthy. Limit his play to 30 mpg than it's done imo.
His value already skyrocketed. Good defender, good passer, excellent rebounder, he can score at times. Puts really nice effort. He might be one of the top PF/C in the east right now.
Ibaka + Perkins = 21 mil/year. Varejao will probably make 12 year next year onward. Could keep Harden + Varejao...
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:33 am
by kdthunderup
His value is capped since he is already 30 years old.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:07 pm
by Devilanche
AV already on 9m ish for 2 more season after this.
Like you said, his health is a concern, i think we all are overrating him abit considering the non production we get off Perkins.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:11 pm
by BIG EDDIE
I would absolutely love to trade for Varejao.
Question is, what would the Cavs want in return?
Are they interested in a Perk+PJ3(or Lamb) trade or maybe want some of our draft picks OR are they looking to create cap space, so we could make a 3-way trade where they receive an expiring contract? I would sacrifice Kevin Martin for Varejao.
Idea:
Utah get Perk and D. Gibson (more front court D and some outside shooting)
Cavs get Al Jefferson (expiring contract)
OKC gets Varejao (obvious)
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:07 pm
by BossHoggin
BIG EDDIE wrote:I would absolutely love to trade for Varejao.
Question is, what would the Cavs want in return?
Are they interested in a Perk+PJ3(or Lamb) trade or maybe want some of our draft picks OR are they looking to create cap space, so we could make a 3-way trade where they receive an expiring contract? I would sacrifice Kevin Martin for Varejao.
Idea:
Utah get Perk and D. Gibson (more front court D and some outside shooting)
Cavs get Al Jefferson (expiring contract)
OKC gets Varejao (obvious)
Cavs need incentive, not an expiring that is going to leave in FA.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:08 pm
by BirdmanPresents
If all it takes for Utah to part with Jefferson is Perkins + Borderline NBA player, I'd rather send them Perkins + Filler directly for Jefferson. Gives OKC a better low post scorer than Varejao.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:21 pm
by Krodis
BirdmanPresents wrote:If all it takes for Utah to part with Jefferson is Perkins + Borderline NBA player, I'd rather send them Perkins + Filler directly for Jefferson. Gives OKC a better low post scorer than Varejao.
Yeah but Jefferson is an abysmal defender and Varejao is a great one. I shudder to think what our defense turns into if we give Jefferson 30+ minutes a game.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:05 pm
by BirdmanPresents
Krodis wrote:BirdmanPresents wrote:If all it takes for Utah to part with Jefferson is Perkins + Borderline NBA player, I'd rather send them Perkins + Filler directly for Jefferson. Gives OKC a better low post scorer than Varejao.
Yeah but Jefferson is an abysmal defender and Varejao is a great one. I shudder to think what our defense turns into if we give Jefferson 30+ minutes a game.
Point taken, OKC just really needs someone who can score the ball down low so its a pick your poison type deal. I don't think the acquisition of Varejao gives you much more scoring over Perkins, although it would be an upgrade.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:33 pm
by Krodis
Just the ability to catch and finish is enough of an offensive upgrade at center Imo. We were fine offensively overall last year, even in the Finals.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:37 pm
by bbms
Al Jefferson is not a fit in OKC. Thunder doesn't really need desperately scoring. We need playmaking and spacing. Varejao provides that. We're doing fine in rebounding, but last Finals what broke the Thunder against the Heat was lack of mobility from our frontcourt to keep Bosh/Battier in check and poor rebounding.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:54 pm
by --ALL--NBA--
Varejao over Jefferson any day of the week. Varejao is having career best averages in ppg, apg, & rpg so far this season, and the Thunder are a "win-now" team, (like the Lakers & Heat). Jefferson, aside from his first 2 NBA seasons, is averaging career lows in ppg, and is pretty much non-existent when it comes to apg and blk.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:08 pm
by HeartSouloma
But can Varejao contain Dwight/Paul/Zach/Gasol in the post? I don't think so, but I do like the front court of Serge/AV much more athletic
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:31 am
by LongLiveIverson
As a Cavs fan we talk about you guys as primary partners alot with Varejao
OKC Get - Varejao, Omri Casspi, Sacramento Lottery Protected Pick
Cavs Get - Kendrick Perkins, Perry Jones, Toronto Pick, maybe Reggie Jackson
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:23 am
by kdthunderup
Having Varejao would also allow Durant to get down the court more instead of having to cover for Perkin's **** rebounding.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:05 pm
by HeartSouloma
LongLiveIverson wrote:As a Cavs fan we talk about you guys as primary partners alot with Varejao
OKC Get - Varejao, Omri Casspi, Sacramento Lottery Protected Pick
Cavs Get - Kendrick Perkins, Perry Jones, Toronto Pick, maybe Reggie Jackson
I just hope that KP is going to get traded anytime soon. He needs to goooo--->
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:46 pm
by fallacy
I'd rather have Gortat than Varejao, he's younger and less injury prone and will probably cost less to trade for. I don't know the contract situations though, that might be a deal breaker
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:44 pm
by ATTL
fallacy wrote:I'd rather have Gortat than Varejao, he's younger and less injury prone and will probably cost less to trade for. I don't know the contract situations though, that might be a deal breaker
Gortat is signed through the 2013-2014 season for 7.2 million
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:55 pm
by Krodis
Yeah, if Gortat is available I'd certainly be interested there as well.
Re: So can we trade for Varejao before he leaves our price r
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:26 pm
by HeartSouloma
Theres a article about okc n phx trading for Marcin Gortat i would love to see him in a okc uni