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Any team with 60 wins and a lottery pick is huge especially if they pick the best player ?

Biggest need is center ....

Kelly Olynyk 7-0 C/PF very good offensive player Opposite of Perkins! but Not much of a defensive player
Mason Plumlee 6-11 PF ... ?
Alex Len 7-1 C ??

biggest player That we do not need! but could draft!

Michael Carter-Williams Syracuse 6-6 PG


What should the Thunder do?

I believe that Olynyk is a mismatch when playing on the wing being able to dribble drive or Jump shooter at 7ft C/PF like Tom Chambers was. With Hasheem Thabeet present they have a defensive Center who just needs playing time ....

Please release Perkins

Move up with 32+13 for 10? Or all 3 for a higher pick?

Then Draft Gobert.

Alex Len and Rudy Gobert should the Thunders primary targets imo. I think you guys could get one of them at #12 staying put, but then again if Len gets picked early, you may have to move up to get Gobert.

Number 12+lamb and filler for gortat

zerowolf88 wrote:Number 12+lamb and filler for gortat

Nope.

don't think so.

Draft Adam/Dieng/Gobert at #12.
Go with euro at #29 and #32.

Our roster is more or less set with 11-12 players can just go min vet to round it out.

Devilanche wrote:

zerowolf88 wrote:Number 12+lamb and filler for gortat

Nope.

don't think so.

Draft Adam/Dieng/Gobert at #12.
Go with euro at #29 and #32.

Our roster is more or less set with 11-12 players can just go min vet to round it out.

I agree. After the combine, the most I would give up for Gortat is #12, one of the late picks, and Perkins. Gobert and Adam both had good showings so drafting one of them at #12 wouldn't be that bad. No way giving up Lamb now also for Gortat.

Royal Ben wrote:I believe that Olynyk is a mismatch when playing on the wing being able to dribble drive or Jump shooter at 7ft C/PF like Tom Chambers was. With Hasheem Thabeet present they have a defensive Center who just needs playing time ....

Please release Perkins

Measured out to be 6-10 PF/C combo who could replace Nick Collison.

Muhammad

If some how some way he falls to 12 he is the guy. There is a chance of ZERO that they trade up because they are $2.5 million away from exceeding into the Lux Tax, I dont see them willing to pay the Lux tax this year. But, I think they would be open to paying to it the year after, since Big Perk would be comming off the books the following season, and they would not be paying the re-pete tax.. Of the list below MCW is the only one I didnt mention. Because I dont think he is considered in the elite top 5 (which is not like the top of the 2003 draft class), but I think he can be a good player in this league. If Shabazz is gone, I would assume the top 5 would be off the board as well, with Burke and McCollum off the board too. My choice would be between whom is left of Len, Zeller, Plumlee, and Dieng, probally in that order.

There is Zero chance of the following slipping:
Noel
McLemore
Oladipo
Porter
Bennett

I dont think any of the following are either good fits or will be good pro's:
Burke
McCollum
Olynyk

Big's that I just dont think are better than Shabazz, but are exreamly interesting
Len (I wonder about his measuements)
Zeller (Mr. T-Rex himself, he is a PF)
Gobert (Doubt he will will come over to the states any time soon)
Plumlee
Dieng

Sleepers that might end up in OKC by the end of the draft:
Franklin
Snell
Crabbe
Rice

One thing is for sure Presti really needs to hit a home run with this pick. If he makes a smart pick then this team could legitimately contend against the Heat for a ring. This team is very good but it definitely has holes to fill. Perkins doesn't really give you a whole lot offensively but his "d" is pretty good. Still it's conceivable to up grade the Center spot. They could also use someone to replace what James Harden was bringing the team. Obvious that won't be easy but they should draft another 6th man/athletic wing who can get buckets type. Personally the best pro I see in the draft is Victor Oladipo. He has the makings to be a very good pro. He still has work to do, but I think he has as much potential if not more than anyone in this draft. Plus his pure athleticism is just fun to watch.

As far as Centers go, I like Len. I'm a huge Olynyk homer, but I'm not entirely sold on his game translating to the NBA level. But I do think he will be a solid player in the league. I'm just not typically a fan of Memhet Okur type centers. As least not as my starting Center. Kelly will probably be a nice back up for a long time in the league I just think Len could be a decent starter.

But who ever it is Presti needs a home run here. If he hits one out, this team could still be back on the path to 3 or 4 rings. This is a very important draft for the Thunder. Because Bennett isn't going to break the bank on a free agent. He's cheap, because he could have paid the luxury tax and kept James Harden in the teams first big time chance to flex it's muscles with the big boys. But Bennett and OKC went cheap and traded Harden for basically this pick and some guys who are pretty meh.

Time to do what small markets do, go the cheap route. Build through the draft. Fortunately Presti has shown he has a good eye for talent. Westbrook and Ibaka have been very good picks. Obviously I don't expect him to hit a home run with every pick but this might be the Thunder's last chance at a difference maker for a long time.

Balkman32 wrote:
Big's that I just dont think are better than Shabazz, but are exreamly interesting
Len (I wonder about his measuements)
Zeller (Mr. T-Rex himself, he is a PF)
Gobert (Doubt he will will come over to the states any time soon)
Plumlee
Dieng

Sleepers that might end up in OKC by the end of the draft:
Franklin
Snell
Crabbe
Rice

How much better are Shabazz than Martin or say Lamb?
How much better are those bigs than perkins?

Devilanche wrote:How much better are Shabazz than Martin or say Lamb?
How much better are those bigs than perkins?

Shabazz is alot cheaper than Martin. Martin is a nice player but dissapeared in the playoffs and looks to be past his prime. With Thabo in the last year of his contract and the real possibality of Durant playing more of his Min's @ PF, the Thunder will need 3-4 wing players (only have Lamb and PJ3 on contact after next season)

The bigs have potential to be batter than Perk. But, not untill his contract is over. When you draft a Center you draft them for their 2nd and thrid contract. Is that something the Thunder want to use their 12th pick on?

Collison, Thabo and Perkins are all working their way to over thirty so the Thunder do need to add some bigs, but getting Bigs from other teams I think is the way to go since they have seemed to hit Home Runs on the scoring/ slasher type 1's 2's and 3's in the past.

Balkman32 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:How much better are Shabazz than Martin or say Lamb?
How much better are those bigs than perkins?

Shabazz is alot cheaper than Martin. Martin is a nice player but dissapeared in the playoffs and looks to be past his prime. With Thabo in the last year of his contract and the real possibality of Durant playing more of his Min's @ PF, the Thunder will need 3-4 wing players (only have Lamb and PJ3 on contact after next season)

The bigs have potential to be batter than Perk. But, not untill his contract is over. When you draft a Center you draft them for their 2nd and thrid contract. Is that something the Thunder want to use their 12th pick on?

Collison, Thabo and Perkins are all working their way to over thirty so the Thunder do need to add some bigs, but getting Bigs from other teams I think is the way to go since they have seemed to hit Home Runs on the scoring/ slasher type 1's 2's and 3's in the past.

Jackson/Westbrook can play some on the wings and we have pick 29/32 to grab some wing player as well.

If we intend to find our center from the draft, we're better of trying from #12 in this draft then our future end of the round 1st.

If you're saying the idea is to get wings and build their value before trading them that will only work if Brooks plays them minute from their season. Right now we have situation like Reggie whereby he has grown but he only has 2 season more and we're probably looking to increase his trade value for another season before considering moving him. Point being with the rookie contracts the way they are the D league doesn't really enhance their value and we're left with too little time to maximize their values.

I think Danny Orton (23 yrs old) and Thabeet (26 yrs old) have been growing their game. Plus there is a possiable oppertunity to sign Cole Aldrich (24 yrs old). I think he loved playing here and if he had an opperunity to come back and play for us he would do it @ the vet min. With that being said the Thunder have a big 4 in Perk, Aldrich, Thabeet, and Orton. The Latter all once being higher rated players comming out of the draft.

Centers usually have a hard time adjusting to the NBA game. Ususlly because they di not have enought weight to play with the big boys. Presti has done a good job aquiring young centers who have not plaied well in their first contract.

Taking the BPA is always the way to go. I just think that Shabazz has the best chance of being an excelent player esp. if you put him under the wings of Durant and Westbrook.

If the Thunder pick @12 and @29 and let MArtin walk they will be 30k under the Lux Tax. I would assume if their guys fall to them that they would just take them as they come and draft a euro guy @ the top of the 2nd or move it for a first next year.

Id like to see Adams on our team unless we can trade up for Otto Porter.

Adams is a good option at 12

Adams avereged 7 and 6 in 23 min. a game. How is this guy a good option? He is Byrun Mullens....

something you might find interesting on bazz. being a bruin, i think too many people are getting carried away with the bazz thing,,,he seems to be everyone's whipping boy of the month..

http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/93751.shtml

miltk wrote:something you might find interesting on bazz. being a bruin, i think too many people are getting carried away with the bazz thing,,,he seems to be everyone's whipping boy of the month..

http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/93751.shtml

The momentum of prospects always seems to move to extremes this part of the year. I think the important thing with Shabazz and this is a natural course for all prospects, is to disregard the rating coming out of high school which has historically been a poor barometer for a prospects success in the NBA and re-evaluate from the beginning.

From and OKC perspective we currently have two SG's on the roster that can be over-powered physically. This is an area that Presti has typically tried to ensure is a team strength. There are many who don't think Martin is a good long term fit, but ignore that Lamb has been evaluated as a younger Martin due to similar build and skill set.
This should leave an opening for a superior prospect. The question is whether Shabazz is that prospect? Presti has avoided adding the aggressive offensive player beyond Durant Westbrook and Harden by plan thus far, but might re-evaluate. I'm not concerned about the skill set of Shabazz or his fluctuating athleticism, but more on his mental approach. Is it going to be all about what he can do, or about how he fits with a team?