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OKC trades: Jeremy Lamb, 12th pick
Bobcats trade: 4th pick, Jeffrey Taylor

Jeremy Lamb just doesnt have a spot in OKC and i think he would be a great player for a team like the bobcats, and the 4th pick gives OKC a lot of interesting options while also getting a perfect young 3 and D role player in taylor.

Jeremy Lamb may be better than almost everyone in this draft, so no thanks.

RunOKC wrote:Jeremy Lamb may be better than almost everyone in this draft, so no thanks.

This, I'll pass. Picks 4-12 could end up being

I really like Taylor. But, Lamb is taking over the backup shooting guard role, and Taylor's contract is expiring after the season. The 4th pick would put the Thunder into the Lux Tax, and the top end of the draft is not that great, I think the Thunder pass on this offer.

how about

blazers trade: Meyers leonard, 10th pick
thunder trade: jlamb, 12th pick

BirdmanPresents wrote:

RunOKC wrote:Jeremy Lamb may be better than almost everyone in this draft, so no thanks.

This, I'll pass. Picks 4-12 could end up being a crap shoot*

I'd pass on Trailblazers offer too, could potentially get a Center prospect close to Leonards level at 12. I like the centers that are projected to go near or after 12 compared to the SG's to replace Lamb. I rather have Lamb and Gobert, Len, Adams over Leonard and the few SG's available at that time. Of course you don't need to draft a SG but still like the idea of Lamb playing a bigger role and drafting a C.

Question for OKC fans, if Shabazz slips do you take him at 12?

nickforthreee wrote:how about

blazers trade: Meyers leonard, 10th pick
thunder trade: jlamb, 12th pick

Pass. I dont want to see Brooks bench Leonard for another season. And the SG seems weaker compared to Lamb while there's more option at C where 12 should be.

BirdmanPresents wrote:

BirdmanPresents wrote:

RunOKC wrote:Jeremy Lamb may be better than almost everyone in this draft, so no thanks.

This, I'll pass. Picks 4-12 could end up being a crap shoot*

I'd pass on Trailblazers offer too, could potentially get a Center prospect close to Leonards level at 12. I like the centers that are projected to go near or after 12 compared to the SG's to replace Lamb. I rather have Lamb and Gobert, Len, Adams over Leonard and the few SG's available at that time. Of course you don't need to draft a SG but still like the idea of Lamb playing a bigger role and drafting a C.

Question for OKC fans, if Shabazz slips do you take him at 12?

Lens is gone right? If adam and Dieng is still there i'll consider trading down abit to take the C and let someone else draft shabazz.

If Shabazz is there he is probably the BPA.... The Thunder need to take the BPA!

The Thunder should not trade Lamb

As a Blazer’s fan, respectfully, none of the trades mentioned above would even be considered. Meyers Leonard is not going to be traded this off season. He is better than any center in this draft.

Here is a trade the Blazers “might” consider. Jeremy Lamb and #12 traded for #10 and a second round pick. Yes that is an uneven trade, in the Blazer’s favor; however, we like the #10 pick a lot more than #12. Moving up is going to cost.

I think there is more than one team that would be willing to move down to 12 in this draft, so if Lamb & 12 was the cost we would simply vault past the Blazers and pick the player desired and the Blazers could choose amongst the leftovers.

oldfishermen wrote:As a Blazer’s fan, respectfully, none of the trades mentioned above would even be considered. Meyers Leonard is not going to be traded this off season. He is better than any center in this draft.

Here is a trade the Blazers “might” consider. Jeremy Lamb and #12 traded for #10 and a second round pick. Yes that is an uneven trade, in the Blazer’s favor; however, we like the #10 pick a lot more than #12. Moving up is going to cost.

Respectfully, is that a joke? You "might" consider last year's 12 in a very deep class and #12 for number #10 in a weak class and a 2nd? Seriously? Like really think about that. Well since you value 10 over 12 so much, you think you guys would consider Batum and 10 for KD and 12? Or is that a might also.

Leonard can't rebound for a 7 footer. Perkins has a higher rebounding rate than him 13.7 vs 12.3. I thought his offense was good, until I saw he only had 19 unassisted field goals all year. Perkins as bad as he is offensively had 42.There is about 3/4 centers at least in this draft that would be a better fit for the Thunder.

comingbacktousa wrote:

oldfishermen wrote:As a Blazer’s fan, respectfully, none of the trades mentioned above would even be considered. Meyers Leonard is not going to be traded this off season. He is better than any center in this draft.

Here is a trade the Blazers “might” consider. Jeremy Lamb and #12 traded for #10 and a second round pick. Yes that is an uneven trade, in the Blazer’s favor; however, we like the #10 pick a lot more than #12. Moving up is going to cost.

Respectfully, is that a joke? You "might" consider last year's 12 in a very deep class and #12 for number #10 in a weak class and a 2nd? Seriously? Like really think about that. Well since you value 10 over 12 so much, you think you guys would consider Batum and 10 for KD and 12? Or is that a might also.

Leonard can't rebound for a 7 footer. Perkins has a higher rebounding rate than him 13.7 vs 12.3. I thought his offense was good, until I saw he only had 19 unassisted field goals all year. Perkins as bad as he is offensively had 42.There is about 3/4 centers at least in this draft that would be a better fit for the Thunder.

What does the position of where Lamb was drafted last year; have to do with his trade value this year?

The Blazers passed on J. Lamb last year in the draft, twice, for a reason.
J. Lamb is probably going to his third team in one year, for a reason.
Since you like to use stats to set players trade value. The SG the Blazers picked in the second round at #40, in the same draft as J. Lamb, has about the same stats in his rookie year as J. Lamb.

You guys are way over valuing J. Lambs trade value.

As far as comparing a rookie center playing on a lottery team, to a veteran center that plays next to Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka, you've got to be kidding.

oldfishermen wrote:What does the position of where Lamb was drafted last year; have to do with his trade value this year?

The Blazers passed on J. Lamb last year in the draft, twice, for a reason.
J. Lamb is probably going to his third team in one year, for a reason.
Since you like to use stats to set players trade value. The SG the Blazers picked in the second round at #40, in the same draft as J. Lamb, has about the same stats in his rookie year as J. Lamb.

You guys are way over valuing J. Lambs trade value.

As far as comparing a rookie center playing on a lottery team, to a veteran center that plays next to Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka, you've got to be kidding.

How else do you want to value a player that hasn't played this year? D-league/summer league? He has played pretty well in both of those. At this point he is still a prospect for pretty much everyone in the league by the Thunder. The fact of the matter is that one of the best drafters in the NBA liked him enough coming out last year to make a trade for Harden with him as the center piece. On a team like the blazers chances are he would have easily gotten 20 minutes or more of playing time this year. Don't really care that the Blazer's passed on him, when considering they drafted for need last year. It's not like they passed on him for another sg.

Wouldn't playing next to Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka lower the amount of offense Perkins has to create for himself? Shouldn't his rebounding numbers actually be lower? Westbrook and Durant are 2 of the best rebounders at their position. The fact that Perkins plays almost exclusively against starters and has a higher rebounding rate than a 7'1 player who is a bench player is pretty bad. Perkin's rebounding has been on the decline since his injury but is still better than Leonards. I much rather have Perkins than Leonard. Honestly, I'd keep Thabeet too over him. If the Blazers like Leonard so much then why are they desperating trying to shop #10 pick that you value so much for another center?

The bottom line is your trade offer is a joke. I'm sure Detroit and Minneosta would happily do Lamb/12 for their pick and a 2nd rounder. No "might" about it.

oldfishermen wrote:What does the position of where Lamb was drafted last year; have to do with his trade value this year?

The Blazers passed on J. Lamb last year in the draft, twice, for a reason.
J. Lamb is probably going to his third team in one year, for a reason.
Since you like to use stats to set players trade value. The SG the Blazers picked in the second round at #40, in the same draft as J. Lamb, has about the same stats in his rookie year as J. Lamb.

You guys are way over valuing J. Lambs trade value.

As far as comparing a rookie center playing on a lottery team, to a veteran center that plays next to Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka, you've got to be kidding.

Lol what a troll. I think you are over valuing Leonard and undervaluing Lamb. Lamb got traded first of all because he was part of a deal to bring arguably the best SG in the league to Houston. Portland would do the same if they were offered the deal with Leonard. I think Leonard is decent but he wouldn't be the best C in this draft, I'd put Len ahead of him. Even then, I still might take Gobert over Leonard from an upside standpoint.

Leonard being the second best C in a weak C draft doesn't mean anything. Not counting Jonas Valanciunas who was a rookie at the same time is also better. This draft is rich with decent centers around the OKC pick, there is no reason to throw away arguably on the of the top 3 SG's in last years draft to move up 2 SPOTS!

Just stop while your ahead. Think if this was reversed and OKC had #10 and wanted Leonard and #12.

Lamb and #12 to Orlando for #2, #51 and something not named Harris, Vucevic or Harkless?

Neon1 wrote:Lamb and #12 to Orlando for #2, #51 and something not named Harris, Vucevic or Harkless?

With a slight tweak it's a deal.

Lamb, #12, 29 & Perkins to Orlando for #2 & Arron Afflalo.

sonictecture wrote:

Neon1 wrote:Lamb and #12 to Orlando for #2, #51 and something not named Harris, Vucevic or Harkless?

With a slight tweak it's a deal.

Lamb, #12, 29 & Perkins to Orlando for #2 & Arron Afflalo.

What does Ol' Stonehands make and for how long?

Neon1 wrote:

sonictecture wrote:

Neon1 wrote:Lamb and #12 to Orlando for #2, #51 and something not named Harris, Vucevic or Harkless?

With a slight tweak it's a deal.

Lamb, #12, 29 & Perkins to Orlando for #2 & Arron Afflalo.

What does Ol' Stonehands make and for how long?

2 more for about 18 million.

Its about 2-2 right now on the Magic board, I would only hesitate if Noel was available at #2.

Who would OKC be targeting at #2 if you got it? Pretty sure we could eat Perkins salary if its just 2 years its really only an extra couple mill over Afflalo I guess.