Possible firesale in Chicago?

[MvPderozan]

Looks like Rose might be out for the year and Chicago may be willing to break it up and tank for someone good in this year's draft. With that being said, they have some real good interesting pieces. Obviously a guy like Butler is untouchable. But Luol Deng is very intriguing. I was thinking something like Perkins, Jones and a 1st for Deng? Deng would be a great guy off the bench, and we can definitely go small by playing him at the end of games.

Westbrook
Lamb/Sefolosha
Durant
Deng
Ibaka

That is really a good line-up offensively and defensively to match up with a team like Miami.

[gcates]

I doubt they throw in the towel. They went for it last year without Rose, no sense in not giving it another go this year. However, that's not to say they won't make a move or two...I just don't see them blowing it up.

I do like a few pieces there. Deng for sure and Taj Gibson as well.

[theokie]

Only would want Deng if he'd sign an extension here. Giving up PJ3 and a pick for a rental coming off the bench isnt worth in and something that Presti wouldnt even consider. It doesn't make sense to move Perkins and not get a Center back. A Deng for Thabo + swap interests me more (both expiring anyway) and Deng could maybe slide into that starting position.

I doubt they'd trade Noah, but thats the player that we need. Perkins and basically whoever they want sounds good to me. Salary isnt too unreasonable either.

Perkins + PJ3 + Jackson(or Adams or both) + Mavs 1st for Noah and Dunleavy.

Westbrook/Fisher
Thabo/Lamb
Durant/Dunleavy
Ibaka/Collison
Noah/Adams

[bondom34]

I would be shocked if they traded anyone other than Deng, and the issue with picking him up is he's expiring and expensive. OKC won't go into the tax for him, and couldn't match salaries w/o giving up Perk and not getting a C back, so I really doubt anything would happen. So as said above very very very unlikely.

[HeartSouloma]

Rather go after Noah.

[gratefulded]

how about something like

Anderson V and CJ Miles to OKC

Perkins and PJ3 or Lamb to chicago

Deng to Cleveland???

[bondom34]

Why are people trying to prey on the Bulls? I actually feel bad for them at this point, and really would be shocked if they sold off players as well.

[Envelopes]

I think I know of someone who had the same injury as Rose? Seems to be playing alright too.

i dont think they would throw in the year yet.

[HeartSouloma]

Hope Bulls trade Tom Thibodeau to OKC! I feel bad for the Bulls....

[JordansBulls]

Willing to give up Deng, Boozer or Noah to you for whatever the hell you want to give us. Do you need any of them on your squad?

[comingbacktousa]

Willing to give up Deng, Boozer or Noah to you for whatever the hell you want to give us. Do you need any of them on your squad?

I'd do Perkins, Jackson, Roberson(think Thib would like him more than PJ3 since hes a defensive minded player),Dallas pick, and 2 more first for Noah.

[JordansBulls]

Willing to give up Deng, Boozer or Noah to you for whatever the hell you want to give us. Do you need any of them on your squad?

I'd do Perkins, Jackson, Roberson(think Thib would like him more than PJ3 since hes a defensive minded player),Dallas pick, and 2 more first for Noah.

Deal. I'd do anything to help Miami get defeated.

[theokie]

Willing to give up Deng, Boozer or Noah to you for whatever the hell you want to give us. Do you need any of them on your squad?

I'd do Perkins, Jackson, Roberson(think Thib would like him more than PJ3 since hes a defensive minded player),Dallas pick, and 2 more first for Noah.

Deal. I'd do anything to help Miami get defeated.

Noah isnt worth that many 1st round picks.

[comingbacktousa]

Noah isnt worth that many 1st round picks.

He is when you consider Perkins has negative value and atleast 2 of those picks is likely going to be 25-30 range and the other one after 20 and maybe not for a few more years. It'd either take several first or giving up Adams. I rather give up the first. I think Adams is the most valuable OKC asset(non "big 3" obviously). Taking Roberson out probably wouldn't be a deal breaker though.

I think the only player to get moved will be Boozer. I don't see Chicago willing to go into the luxury tax if they aren't going to compete. Bulls need to cut 10 million to go under the tax line. They have a couple good assets to make it happen, Charlotte pick, Mirotic, and their own pick(s). Boozer and picks/Mirotic for Evan turner makes sense to me for both teams.

[Dukedog]

Only would want Deng if he'd sign an extension here. Giving up PJ3 and a pick for a rental coming off the bench isnt worth in and something that Presti wouldnt even consider. It doesn't make sense to move Perkins and not get a Center back. A Deng for Thabo + swap interests me more (both expiring anyway) and Deng could maybe slide into that starting position.

I doubt they'd trade Noah, but thats the player that we need. Perkins and basically whoever they want sounds good to me. Salary isnt too unreasonable either.

Perkins + PJ3 + Jackson(or Adams or both) + Mavs 1st for Noah and Dunleavy.

Westbrook/Fisher
Thabo/Lamb
Durant/Dunleavy
Ibaka/Collison
Noah/Adams

Bulls fan here. There's been a lot of discussion about trading players and tanking (of course fans are much more prone to this line of thinking than front offices are). The general consensus seems to be that outside of Rose and Butler (not quite a consensus even on these 2), just about everyone could be had for the right price, Noah included. The problem is that most teams wouldn't be able to give up the assets we'd like to receive if we were to trade Noah - OKC seems to be a possible exception.

One idea that has been debated back and forth would be Noah (+ Dunleavy?) for Adams, Lamb, Perkins, and either OKC or DAL pick. Adams would give us a replacement center for our on the fly rebuild and Lamb provides a decent shooter and creator to put b/t Rose and Butler at the 2 next year. Perkins.. Ugh, he is definitely the guy holding back the people saying no to this trade, but I don't see any other way it could go down without him being included. Some fans say no, some say yes even without the 1st rounder, but it seems like that trade would make a lot of sense for both teams.

One more thing, I love Noah, and so do all of us on the Bulls board. If he were to be traded it would really be a depressing day for us, but god dammit I hate the Heat so much that if a Noah trade could give a team like OKC a better shot at beating Miami (and I have no doubt that it would), I'd be ecstatic for both him and your team/fans. I like OKC a lot, Durant and Westbrook are top notch players and people and I would love to root for the Thunder to beat the Heat, especially with Noah there.

[bondom34]

Only would want Deng if he'd sign an extension here. Giving up PJ3 and a pick for a rental coming off the bench isnt worth in and something that Presti wouldnt even consider. It doesn't make sense to move Perkins and not get a Center back. A Deng for Thabo + swap interests me more (both expiring anyway) and Deng could maybe slide into that starting position.

I doubt they'd trade Noah, but thats the player that we need. Perkins and basically whoever they want sounds good to me. Salary isnt too unreasonable either.

Perkins + PJ3 + Jackson(or Adams or both) + Mavs 1st for Noah and Dunleavy.

Westbrook/Fisher
Thabo/Lamb
Durant/Dunleavy
Ibaka/Collison
Noah/Adams

Bulls fan here. There's been a lot of discussion about trading players and tanking (of course fans are much more prone to this line of thinking than front offices are). The general consensus seems to be that outside of Rose and Butler (not quite a consensus even on these 2), just about everyone could be had for the right price, Noah included. The problem is that most teams wouldn't be able to give up the assets we'd like to receive if we were to trade Noah - OKC seems to be a possible exception.

One idea that has been debated back and forth would be Noah (+ Dunleavy?) for Adams, Lamb, Perkins, and either OKC or DAL pick. Adams would give us a replacement center for our on the fly rebuild and Lamb provides a decent shooter and creator to put b/t Rose and Butler at the 2 next year. Perkins.. Ugh, he is definitely the guy holding back the people saying no to this trade, but I don't see any other way it could go down without him being included. Some fans say no, some say yes even without the 1st rounder, but it seems like that trade would make a lot of sense for both teams.

One more thing, I love Noah, and so do all of us on the Bulls board. If he were to be traded it would really be a depressing day for us, but god dammit I hate the Heat so much that if a Noah trade could give a team like OKC a better shot at beating Miami (and I have no doubt that it would), I'd be ecstatic for both him and your team/fans. I like OKC a lot, Durant and Westbrook are top notch players and people and I would love to root for the Thunder to beat the Heat, especially with Noah there.

Hey, thanks! Just curious, as to the deal in bold, what would you think of it if you took out Adams and Dunleavy, possibly adding in another pick if needed to Chicago? I'd like Dunleavy, but the tax issue is a big one, and if Dunleavy were traded it would put OKC in the tax (unless maybe if Thabeet were added/OKC cut someone).

[tsherkin]

Deng is a really expensive 3+D guy for a half-season rental.. There are likely better moves out there.

Bench/supplementary scoring, you don't want a spot-up shooter, you want to hope that Lamb and Reggie cangetgoing (of really, thst Lamb can keep improving, since he's doing fine right now).

I don't see Deng playing a huge role in a title run, particularly with cap sense amd sustainabilityin mind.

[Devilanche]

Yeap, a cheaper 3 & D salary wise would be Ariza for example.

[Dukedog]

Only would want Deng if he'd sign an extension here. Giving up PJ3 and a pick for a rental coming off the bench isnt worth in and something that Presti wouldnt even consider. It doesn't make sense to move Perkins and not get a Center back. A Deng for Thabo + swap interests me more (both expiring anyway) and Deng could maybe slide into that starting position.

I doubt they'd trade Noah, but thats the player that we need. Perkins and basically whoever they want sounds good to me. Salary isnt too unreasonable either.

Perkins + PJ3 + Jackson(or Adams or both) + Mavs 1st for Noah and Dunleavy.

Westbrook/Fisher
Thabo/Lamb
Durant/Dunleavy
Ibaka/Collison
Noah/Adams

Bulls fan here. There's been a lot of discussion about trading players and tanking (of course fans are much more prone to this line of thinking than front offices are). The general consensus seems to be that outside of Rose and Butler (not quite a consensus even on these 2), just about everyone could be had for the right price, Noah included. The problem is that most teams wouldn't be able to give up the assets we'd like to receive if we were to trade Noah - OKC seems to be a possible exception.

One idea that has been debated back and forth would be Noah (+ Dunleavy?) for Adams, Lamb, Perkins, and either OKC or DAL pick. Adams would give us a replacement center for our on the fly rebuild and Lamb provides a decent shooter and creator to put b/t Rose and Butler at the 2 next year. Perkins.. Ugh, he is definitely the guy holding back the people saying no to this trade, but I don't see any other way it could go down without him being included. Some fans say no, some say yes even without the 1st rounder, but it seems like that trade would make a lot of sense for both teams.

One more thing, I love Noah, and so do all of us on the Bulls board. If he were to be traded it would really be a depressing day for us, but god dammit I hate the Heat so much that if a Noah trade could give a team like OKC a better shot at beating Miami (and I have no doubt that it would), I'd be ecstatic for both him and your team/fans. I like OKC a lot, Durant and Westbrook are top notch players and people and I would love to root for the Thunder to beat the Heat, especially with Noah there.

Hey, thanks! Just curious, as to the deal in bold, what would you think of it if you took out Adams and Dunleavy, possibly adding in another pick if needed to Chicago? I'd like Dunleavy, but the tax issue is a big one, and if Dunleavy were traded it would put OKC in the tax (unless maybe if Thabeet were added/OKC cut someone).

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I don't speak for other bulls fans, but to me Adams is the key to this deal being acceptable for the Bulls. There is such a dearth of good centers in the NBA and Noah is a great one on a good deal (compared to Lopez, Hibbert, and Gasol who are all on max deals, for instance). Adams gives us a guy who has the potential to replace that position long term. I'd be much more willing to drop Lamb or the pick than Adams, although Lamb could be a deal breaker too depending on the other pieces involved. Just my opinion.

EDIT: Dunleavy is just a throw in that I figure would make up for the loss of Lamb to some extent, he could be left out as far as I'm concerned.

[wizkid27]

Thunder will not make any significant moves

That is all