Bucks/Thunder Trade

mlloyd10 · Post #1 » by **mlloyd10** » Tue Jan 7, 2014 7:39 pm

I come in peace, but wanted to know you feelings on this potential trade

Thunder get: Udoh/Neal
Bucks get: Lamb/Perkins

As a Bucks fan, I wanted Lamb on our team since the draft and believe that this could work for both teams. Bucks get their SG of the future, while the thunder get a 3 pt specialist while saving around $8 mil next season

jackson77 · Post #2 » by **jackson77** » Tue Jan 7, 2014 8:00 pm

We have our three point specialist = Lamb
No thanks

Balkman32 · Post #3 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jan 7, 2014 8:19 pm

Lamb is the future here. But, I would think Perk and Thabo are available.

slicedbread2 · Post #4 » by **slicedbread2** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:06 am

i would send Neal and Udoh to OKC for Perkins and a draft pick instead to absorb his salary.

OKC_HOJ · Post #5 » by **OKC_HOJ** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:35 pm

Balkman32 wrote:Lamb is the future here. But, I would think Perk and Thabo are available.

This is what I would do as well. If the Bucks didn't want this I would try to throw in one of the 2nd Rd picks.

Bravenewworld · Post #6 » by **Bravenewworld** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:34 pm

Absolutely not to both ideas.

1. OP trade, wont happen. Lamb is in his second year and is starting to resemble guys like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. Not saying his ceiling is as high, but its close.

2. The alternate trade. No, not now. Thabo is not available at this moment. When we have to resign Lamb in two years, sure, he will be better defensively then and we can start him. Right now, absolutely not. Lets not forget this is a guy who during our finals run was able to effectively guard..... Manu, Parker, Wade, Lebron, Kobe and Terry. Didnt shut them down, but when he was defending them none of them were able to go off

Wonka · Post #7 » by **Wonka** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:49 pm

Bravenewworld wrote:starting to resemble guys like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. Not saying his ceiling is as high, but its close.

you're kidding right?

Bravenewworld · Post #8 » by **Bravenewworld** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:45 pm

Wonka wrote:
Bravenewworld wrote:starting to resemble guys like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. Not saying his ceiling is as high, but its close.

you're kidding right?

...... Hes not turning into a great pure shooter?
Have you not been paying attention to him?
He is in his second year in the NBA, shooting at a very high percentage given his age and experience. And putting up 10ppg on a contending team with a fantastic PER. His off. eff. is almost as good as Harden's and his stats reflect a second year Harden as well. Slightly less scoring but better numbers in almost every other category. Not to mention he is doing these things as a shooter, not a 70/30 driver/shooter. Flip that ratio and we have Lamb.

Wonka · Post #9 » by **Wonka** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:53 pm

Bravenewworld wrote:
Wonka wrote:
Bravenewworld wrote:starting to resemble guys like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. Not saying his ceiling is as high, but its close.

you're kidding right?

...... Hes not turning into a great pure shooter?
Have you not been paying attention to him?
He is in his second year in the NBA, shooting at a very high percentage given his age and experience. And putting up 10ppg on a contending team with a fantastic PER. His off. eff. is almost as good as Harden's and his stats reflect a second year Harden as well. Slightly less scoring but better numbers in almost every other category. Not to mention he is doing these things as a shooter, not a 70/30 driver/shooter. Flip that ratio and we have Lamb.

He's a great shooter. That's not what I'm debating. I just think comparing him to the two best 3 point shooters and HOFers is more than a bit of a stretch.

spearsy23 · Post #10 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:42 am

He looks nothing like a Ray Allen. Young Ray wasn't a shooter, he was everything you'd want in an offensive player. Lamb would have to improve an extraordinary amount before he has the versatility of Jesus.

Bravenewworld · Post #11 » by **Bravenewworld** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:59 am

Wonka wrote:
Bravenewworld wrote:
Wonka wrote:
you're kidding right?

...... Hes not turning into a great pure shooter?
Have you not been paying attention to him?
He is in his second year in the NBA, shooting at a very high percentage given his age and experience. And putting up 10ppg on a contending team with a fantastic PER. His off. eff. is almost as good as Harden's and his stats reflect a second year Harden as well. Slightly less scoring but better numbers in almost every other category. Not to mention he is doing these things as a shooter, not a 70/30 driver/shooter. Flip that ratio and we have Lamb.

He's a great shooter. That's not what I'm debating. I just think comparing him to the two best 3 point shooters and HOFers is more than a bit of a stretch.

I didnt say he was Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. I said he was a lesser version of them. Someone with a similar game but not the ceiling.

He looks nothing like a Ray Allen. Young Ray wasn't a shooter, he was everything you'd want in an offensive player. Lamb would have to improve an extraordinary amount before he has the versatility of Jesus.

Um.... young Ray Allen was a pretty damn good jump shooter. I think at the age, or, comparative NBA age, Lamb is a bit better. But again, i dont think Lamb has the ceiling of Ray or Miller. I could be wrong on that but whatever, we will see. Maybe having KD, Westbrook and Fisher as your mentors will give this guy a ceiling boost that he might not have had on any other team or in any other situation.

Joest2003 · Post #12 » by **Joest2003** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:56 am

There is no way OKC is trading Lamb not a chance.

GREENE1148 · Post #13 » by **GREENE1148** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:02 pm

Yeah, comparing him to a young Ray or Reggie is completely insane...

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/EGWZk

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/KvVzL

spearsy23 · Post #14 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:08 pm

GREENE1148 wrote:Yeah, comparing him to a young Ray or Reggie is completely insane...

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/EGWZk

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/KvVzL

.... I can't help but notice you've accidentally used Allen's rookie year to compare with Lamb's 2nd season, and ,quite by mistake I'm sure, used per 36 minute stats.

Podirk · Post #15 » by **Podirk** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:22 pm

Joest2003 wrote:There is no way OKC is trading Lamb not a chance.

Yeah, pending trades (not inluding Lamb) or a FA pickup, Lamb is the starting SG in the near future (I still have trouble with that b/c he and Reggie kill bench units). Maybe not next year, but Lamb is the perfect complement to Russ/KD. His defense has improved drastically from last year.

Point of that was yes, Lamb is not going anywhere.

Joest2003 · Post #16 » by **Joest2003** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:04 pm

Podirk wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:There is no way OKC is trading Lamb not a chance.

Yeah, pending trades (not inluding Lamb) or a FA pickup, Lamb is the starting SG in the near future (I still have trouble with that b/c he and Reggie kill bench units). Maybe not next year, but Lamb is the perfect complement to Russ/KD. His defense has improved drastically from last year.

Point of that was yes, Lamb is not going anywhere.

HOLY CRAP we actually agree on something lol

Joest2003 · Post #17 » by **Joest2003** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:14 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
GREENE1148 wrote:Yeah, comparing him to a young Ray or Reggie is completely insane...

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/EGWZk

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/KvVzL

.... I can't help but notice you've accidentally used Allen's rookie year to compare with Lamb's 2nd season, and ,quite by mistake I'm sure, used per 36 minute stats.

In all fairness lamb only plate 130 garbage time NBA minutes last year. I know its technically his second year but I have a hard time calling this his second season when he wasn't even playing in the NBA last year.

Podirk · Post #18 » by **Podirk** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:14 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:There is no way OKC is trading Lamb not a chance.

Yeah, pending trades (not inluding Lamb) or a FA pickup, Lamb is the starting SG in the near future (I still have trouble with that b/c he and Reggie kill bench units). Maybe not next year, but Lamb is the perfect complement to Russ/KD. His defense has improved drastically from last year.

Point of that was yes, Lamb is not going anywhere.

HOLY CRAP we actually agree on something lol

And it didn't hurt at all!

Lamb has stepped up his defense and now the next is to bring that consistency every game!

Joest2003 · Post #19 » by **Joest2003** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:34 pm

Podirk wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Yeah, pending trades (not inluding Lamb) or a FA pickup, Lamb is the starting SG in the near future (I still have trouble with that b/c he and Reggie kill bench units). Maybe not next year, but Lamb is the perfect complement to Russ/KD. His defense has improved drastically from last year.

Point of that was yes, Lamb is not going anywhere.

HOLY CRAP we actually agree on something lol

And it didn't hurt at all!

Lamb has stepped up his defense and now the next is to bring that consistency every game!

Lol true. The biggest thing for Lamb this year was his coaches and teammates believing in him. Last year his confidence last year took a blow when he got traded than sent to d league.

Podirk · Post #20 » by **Podirk** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:47 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
HOLY CRAP we actually agree on something lol

And it didn't hurt at all!

Lamb has stepped up his defense and now the next is to bring that consistency every game!

Lol true. The biggest thing for Lamb this year was his coaches and teammates believing in him. Last year his confidence last year took a blow when he got traded than sent to d league.

Right, he went from most likely having a decent rotation spot on the Rockets to being put on the back burner to marinate for a year all right before the season.