Westbrook Updates

Post #1 » by **bondom34** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:48 am

Any info on tonight's injury..... :evil:

Thought I would start a thread if any info comes out/anyone needs it.

Loud_city · Post #2 » by **Loud_city** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:02 am

It didn't look good. I sure hope it isn't serious,

Loud_city · Post #3 » by **Loud_city** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:19 am

They are calling it a right knee sprain,

Post #4 » by **bondom34** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:15 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry/status/447210859274977281[/tweet]

Hope he's right.

Post #5 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:03 pm

Latest I can find is that this morning he said he has no pain at all but that he's still going to get the MRI today to check everything out.

Post #6 » by **bondom34** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:47 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/447498773313236992[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/447499324914532353[/tweet][/quote]

Bravenewworld · Post #7 » by **Bravenewworld** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:41 pm

Im beginning to be more comfortable with the idea of trading Westbrook if we could get another top 12 player.

My nerves cant do this **** anymore. I freaking love this guy but his knees are a target and this is getting to be too much. The inconsistency to the line up actually seems to be doing us good, but the only way we can survive multiple injuries is if Westbrook is healthy. Thabo and Perk out, okay fine, but we cant have Thabo Perk and Westbrook out.

Actually im taking this back a bit.
Im now for the idea of packaging Lamb with one of our firsts this year and try to get Affalo. If we do that we could survive an inconsistent Westbrook.

spearsy23 · Post #8 » by **spearsy23** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:28 am

Are we pretending he's injury prone now? The only reason to toy with the idea of trading him because of a knee sprain is if you thought we should trade him anyway.

Post #9 » by **bondom34** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:43 am

^^^^
Yeah, if a guy bumps knees and your reaction is he's injury prone, he mght as well be in a bubble. I think he bumped it and freaked out before realizing it wasn't tht bad. Just unlucky last night. Glad he's fine.

Post #10 » by **wizkid27** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:35 pm

bondom34 wrote:^^^^
Yeah, if a guy bumps knees and your reaction is he's injury prone, he mght as well be in a bubble. I think he bumped it and freaked out before realizing it wasn't tht bad. Just unlucky last night. Glad he's fine.

MRI came back showing no damage and he won't miss any time that he wasn't already scheduled to miss because of his minutes restriction.

theokie · Post #11 » by **theokie** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:31 am

Hes resting games and sitting out back to backs as a precaution to prevent swelling. Call that injury prone or not, but its definitely an issue for him and OKC.

spearsy23 · Post #12 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:50 am

theokie wrote:Hes resting games and sitting out back to backs as a precaution to prevent swelling. Call that injury prone or not, but its definitely an issue for him and OKC.

Being cautious to make sure he's healthy long term is not "an issue," it's a team putting a player and their future ahead of their RIGHT NOW. Guys in the NBA get injured, Russ is still coming back from his very first injury, that's not a reason to hit the panic button.

theokie · Post #13 » by **theokie** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:43 am

spearsy23 wrote:
theokie wrote:Hes resting games and sitting out back to backs as a precaution to prevent swelling. Call that injury prone or not, but its definitely an issue for him and OKC.

Being cautious to make sure he's healthy long term is not "an issue," it's a team putting a player and their future ahead of their RIGHT NOW. Guys in the NBA get injured, Russ is still coming back from his very first injury, that's not a reason to hit the panic button.

Three knee surgeries in 8 months is a big worry in my opinion. From what I've heard he has chronic knee problems and its inevitable that he will have more surgeries.

No reason to pack it in this season though. I'm glad they are giving him more rest, as it should help delay any potential complications.

Bravenewworld · Post #14 » by **Bravenewworld** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:55 am

spearsy23 wrote:Are we pretending he's injury prone now? The only reason to toy with the idea of trading him because of a knee sprain is if you thought we should trade him anyway.

I don't think there is anything to pretend. 3 surgeries in one year and the guy is now being carried out of games with sprains because there is such a high concern that it is going to be another injury that requires a surgery..... its the knee's man, its very easy to re-injure a knee if you have already tore your MCL/ACL.
And its now to the point where we see other players targeting his knee's. We saw this in the Rockets game, and im betting come play off time it will happen again. Resulting in another injury or not, who knows, but its a target that teams are now taking advantage of. Same happened in that Raptors game and yes, one could suggest Lowry targeted his knee given how far in Lowry went.

Im not sure why you think that in order to suggest we trade him now, someone must have been suggesting this the entire time. An issue now, that was not in place last year at this same time, is holding your breath every single time anything to this man's knee happens. And then, if something does, the inconsistency of roster that is a result of this.

Bravenewworld · Post #15 » by **Bravenewworld** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:05 am

spearsy23 wrote:
theokie wrote:Hes resting games and sitting out back to backs as a precaution to prevent swelling. Call that injury prone or not, but its definitely an issue for him and OKC.

Being cautious to make sure he's healthy long term is not "an issue," it's a team putting a player and their future ahead of their RIGHT NOW. Guys in the NBA get injured, Russ is still coming back from his very first injury, that's not a reason to hit the panic button.

Ability wise he is still coming back from his injury time.
Health wise he is above 100%, yet we still possible issues with continued injuries.
Im not just pointing out the fact that he sprained his knee and possibly thought it was another MCL tear. Ive sprained my knee plenty of times and its horrible, its not unreasonable to think something is wrong more than a simple sprain.
But lets not forget that his 3rd surgery was for inflammation. Have you ever heard of this not being a persistent and long term issue for torn MCL/ACL patients?
Even at the very least a drain every few months. But that still causes massive amounts of discomfort, you take a week or so off and can increase the possibility of reinjuring.

Post #16 » by **bondom34** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:09 am

Bravenewworld wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
theokie wrote:Hes resting games and sitting out back to backs as a precaution to prevent swelling. Call that injury prone or not, but its definitely an issue for him and OKC.

Being cautious to make sure he's healthy long term is not "an issue," it's a team putting a player and their future ahead of their RIGHT NOW. Guys in the NBA get injured, Russ is still coming back from his very first injury, that's not a reason to hit the panic button.

Ability wise he is still coming back from his injury time.
Health wise he is above 100%, yet we still possible issues with continued injuries.
Im not just pointing out the fact that he sprained his knee and possibly thought it was another MCL tear. Ive sprained my knee plenty of times and its horrible, its not unreasonable to think something is wrong more than a simple sprain.
But lets not forget that his 3rd surgery was for inflammation. Have you ever heard of this not being a persistent and long term issue for torn MCL/ACL patients?
Even at the very least a drain every few months. But that still causes massive amounts of discomfort, you take a week or so off and can increase the possibility of reinjuring.

Meniscus isn't MCL/ACL. Much less serious. We're still overreacting to things right now, and the team is being very cautious so he's ok come playoffs.

Bravenewworld · Post #17 » by **Bravenewworld** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:18 am

bondom34 wrote:
Bravenewworld wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Being cautious to make sure he's healthy long term is not "an issue," it's a team putting a player and their future ahead of their RIGHT NOW. Guys in the NBA get injured, Russ is still coming back from his very first injury, that's not a reason to hit the panic button.

Ability wise he is still coming back from his injury time.
Health wise he is above 100%, yet we still possible issues with continued injuries.
Im not just pointing out the fact that he sprained his knee and possibly thought it was another MCL tear. Ive sprained my knee plenty of times and its horrible, its not unreasonable to think something is wrong more than a simple sprain.
But lets not forget that his 3rd surgery was for inflammation. Have you ever heard of this not being a persistent and long term issue for torn MCL/ACL patients?
Even at the very least a drain every few months. But that still causes massive amounts of discomfort, you take a week or so off and can increase the possibility of reinjuring.

Meniscus isn't MCL/ACL. Much less serious. We're still overreacting to things right now, and the team is being very cautious so he's ok come playoffs.

For some reason i was thinking MCL. Either way its an issue with your knee's ability to stabilize your weight and movements.
But it does not escape the fact that he has had to have surgery on his knee a third time due to swelling. Which as i pointed out in my second post, is something that is more often than not, persistent.

Im not suggesting trading him ASAP or even at the end of the season or whatever.
But if he does reinjure his knee then this needs to become a very serious conversation.
We don't want to see OKC in the same boat the Bulls. Who are keeping a guy who will probably never be even remotely close to what we have seen in the past and a refusal to move him is keeping them from being a contending team in the East.

Post #18 » by **bondom34** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:27 am

Bravenewworld wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Bravenewworld wrote:
Ability wise he is still coming back from his injury time.
Health wise he is above 100%, yet we still possible issues with continued injuries.
Im not just pointing out the fact that he sprained his knee and possibly thought it was another MCL tear. Ive sprained my knee plenty of times and its horrible, its not unreasonable to think something is wrong more than a simple sprain.
But lets not forget that his 3rd surgery was for inflammation. Have you ever heard of this not being a persistent and long term issue for torn MCL/ACL patients?
Even at the very least a drain every few months. But that still causes massive amounts of discomfort, you take a week or so off and can increase the possibility of reinjuring.

Meniscus isn't MCL/ACL. Much less serious. We're still overreacting to things right now, and the team is being very cautious so he's ok come playoffs.

For some reason i was thinking MCL. Either way its an issue with your knee's ability to stabilize your weight and movements.
But it does not escape the fact that he has had to have surgery on his knee a third time due to swelling. Which as i pointed out in my second post, is something that is more often than not, persistent.

Im not suggesting trading him ASAP or even at the end of the season or whatever.
But if he does reinjure his knee then this needs to become a very serious conversation.
We don't want to see OKC in the same boat the Bulls. Who are keeping a guy who will probably never be even remotely close to what we have seen in the past and a refusal to move him is keeping them from being a contending team in the East.

Understood, but its WAY less serious:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/ ... 3P20111216
As well, if he keeps having trouble, it can still be removed (he had it repaired). CP3 had his removed a few years back. Its just panic right now as we're so fresh off disappointment last year.

Bravenewworld · Post #19 » by **Bravenewworld** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:48 am

bondom34 wrote:Understood, but its WAY less serious:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/ ... 3P20111216
As well, if he keeps having trouble, it can still be removed (he had it repaired). CP3 had his removed a few years back. Its just panic right now as we're so fresh off disappointment last year.

Its less serious then an MCL or ACL tear, but it still has a likely potential to be a consistent injury and something that regularly keeps him out of games.

Im not a huge fan of the link you provided either. It kind of contradicts itself and does not bring up the issue of multiple surgeries.
My biggest issue is how they try to minimize the resulting possibilities of a meniscus tear, but then go on to say 1 in 5 players dont return. 20% of players not returning at all is a pretty big deal and im not sure if i would put the seemingly conclusive positive spin they put on it. Thats not addressing quality of play, quality of return play, time spent injured as a result, multiple surgeries, longevity, etc. That is flat out 1 in 5 can't/don't return.

Post #20 » by **bondom34** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:56 am

Bravenewworld wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Understood, but its WAY less serious:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/ ... 3P20111216
As well, if he keeps having trouble, it can still be removed (he had it repaired). CP3 had his removed a few years back. Its just panic right now as we're so fresh off disappointment last year.

Its less serious then an MCL or ACL tear, but it still has a likely potential to be a consistent injury and something that regularly keeps him out of games.

Im not a huge fan of the link you provided either. It kind of contradicts itself and does not bring up the issue of multiple surgeries.
My biggest issue is how they try to minimize the resulting possibilities of a meniscus tear, but then go on to say 1 in 5 players dont return. 20% of players not returning at all is a pretty big deal and im not sure if i would put the seemingly conclusive positive spin they put on it. Thats not addressing quality of play, quality of return play, time spent injured as a result, multiple surgeries, longevity, etc. That is flat out 1 in 5 can't/don't return.

4/5 do?