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MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Lambs season 21.3 3.2-7.7 .411 1.1-3.2 .338 1.8-2.0 .898 0.3 3.2 3.4 1.5 0.2 0.8 2.0 0.9 9.3
Morrow's 25.6 3.8-8.5 .446 1.8-4.4 .413 0.9-1.1 .821 0.4 2.4 2.8 1.1 0.1 0.9 2.0 0.5 10.3

I've seen these two compared a lot lately, I scoffed at it but was surprised how close they were. The glaring one to me being the 3pt % however and that's where both need to excel to benefit the team.

Making similar contracts over the next 2 years too.

Morrow is a veteran who gets a lot more playing time than lamb I dont even see the point in comparing them. Just another excuse for you guys to sh*t on him.

Joest2003 wrote:Morrow is a veteran who gets a lot more playing time than lamb I dont even see the point in comparing them. Just another excuse for you guys to sh*t on him.

Why the hate?? If anything it was a compliment...

I compared because it has been mentioned many times before (I already stated that...)
If you read closely I believe I state "I scoffed" at the idea their stats compared and was "surprised" when they were very similar. I believe Morrow is more of a knock down shooter, where Lamb is definitely more the handler.

If anything you should have came back with "See but Morrow doesn't get DNP Coachs decision like Lamb does" or "Morrow has been in the league going on 7 years and Lamb only 3 and they are comparable, so lamb is on the right track".

Seriously this was a softball arguement for you and you struck out with Morrow gets a lot more playing time (5 whole minutes) and some cursing...

Joest2003 wrote:Morrow is a veteran who gets a lot more playing time than lamb I dont even see the point in comparing them. Just another excuse for you guys to sh*t on him.

I read a post you made earlier claiming that you were saying all these things, not because Lamb was from UConn, but because you felt Lamb was... being **** on? I don't really remember, but you were defending Lamb and claiming it was not because of the college ties. I contest this.

Many of the people here, including myself, have dealt with Lambs BS for three years now and many gave him a chance. I didnt take the stance that he absolutely needed to be traded until about mid season last year when Westbrook was out and he was so inconsistent that he was getting DNPs while a 38 year old Fisher and a 34 year old Butler were sucking the minutes up. Despite the fact that we absolutely needed him, but he failed to improve his game.

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:Morrow is a veteran who gets a lot more playing time than lamb I dont even see the point in comparing them. Just another excuse for you guys to sh*t on him.

I read a post you made earlier claiming that you were saying all these things, not because Lamb was from UConn, but because you felt Lamb was... being **** on? I don't really remember, but you were defending Lamb and claiming it was not because of the college ties. I contest this.

Many of the people here, including myself, have dealt with Lambs BS for three years now and many gave him a chance. I didnt take the stance that he absolutely needed to be traded until about mid season last year when Westbrook was out and he was so inconsistent that he was getting DNPs while a 38 year old Fisher and a 34 year old Butler were sucking the minutes up. Despite the fact that we absolutely needed him, but he failed to improve his game.

So you "put up with Lambs BS" for 3 years now when he only played for the Thunder for 2? You must have been a very big Tulsa 66ers fan. When he struggled half way through last year which was essentially his rookie season I was not surprised, thats what rookies do... Not everyone is Kevin Durant believe it or not. Did you really expect OKC to play Lamb heavy minutes late last season and into the playoffs? Not a chance, he was essentially a rookie and theres no way they would make that gamble. Butler and Fisher would have ended up with his minutes eventually no matter how good he was playing he just wasn't ready and I wouldn't expect him to be with the little amount of experience he had.

If it was all about UCONN why would Butler playing over Lamb bother me? When you get a chance you should look up where Butler went to college buddy. Oh ya and I was also such a big Thabeet supporter too right??

Podirk wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:Morrow is a veteran who gets a lot more playing time than lamb I dont even see the point in comparing them. Just another excuse for you guys to sh*t on him.

Why the hate?? If anything it was a compliment...

I compared because it has been mentioned many times before (I already stated that...)
If you read closely I believe I state "I scoffed" at the idea their stats compared and was "surprised" when they were very similar. I believe Morrow is more of a knock down shooter, where Lamb is definitely more the handler.

If anything you should have came back with "See but Morrow doesn't get DNP Coachs decision like Lamb does" or "Morrow has been in the league going on 7 years and Lamb only 3 and they are comparable, so lamb is on the right track".

Seriously this was a softball arguement for you and you struck out with Morrow gets a lot more playing time (5 whole minutes) and some cursing...

Mentioned by who?? You guys do NOTHING but bash Lamb and talk Morrow up like hes a all star. Did you really think anyone on here is going to say something positive on this thread? Just seemed like you were tryin to stir the pot even more than it is, if I was wrong than im sorry. But I agree I dont see too much difference they play a pretty similar game but Morrow is obviously way more of a finished product.

I can't highlight everything for you, go through the season thread, the morrow thread and the lamb thread for starters.

The only thing this thread was to do was highlight the similar stats and my surprise to them, hence why I have stated as much twice now.

Joest2003 wrote:

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:Morrow is a veteran who gets a lot more playing time than lamb I dont even see the point in comparing them. Just another excuse for you guys to sh*t on him.

I read a post you made earlier claiming that you were saying all these things, not because Lamb was from UConn, but because you felt Lamb was... being **** on? I don't really remember, but you were defending Lamb and claiming it was not because of the college ties. I contest this.

Many of the people here, including myself, have dealt with Lambs BS for three years now and many gave him a chance. I didnt take the stance that he absolutely needed to be traded until about mid season last year when Westbrook was out and he was so inconsistent that he was getting DNPs while a 38 year old Fisher and a 34 year old Butler were sucking the minutes up. Despite the fact that we absolutely needed him, but he failed to improve his game.

So you "put up with Lambs BS" for 3 years now when he only played for the Thunder for 2? You must have been a very big Tulsa 66ers fan. When he struggled half way through last year which was essentially his rookie season I was not surprised, thats what rookies do... Not everyone is Kevin Durant believe it or not. Did you really expect OKC to play Lamb heavy minutes late last season and into the playoffs? Not a chance, he was essentially a rookie and theres no way they would make that gamble. Butler and Fisher would have ended up with his minutes eventually no matter how good he was playing he just wasn't ready and I wouldn't expect him to be with the little amount of experience he had.

If it was all about UCONN why would Butler playing over Lamb bother me? When you get a chance you should look up where Butler went to college buddy. Oh ya and I was also such a big Thabeet supporter too right??

I dont know who you support and i dont care, but you're showing a very clear bias for no other. Many of these OKC fans have held out as long as possible with Lamb.

BTW, he's In 3rd year now and its as disappointing as the previous years, point is, he has development issues that even college players should not have. Its really as simple as that, if you don't like it.. whatever.
You really seem to be ignoring the willingness and expectations this team has with their young players. That is, as long as their young players show them that they can be consistent and show improvements. No one expect Harden to do what he did, he was expect to be a Jason Terry type at best, and definitely not as quickly as he did. Its Adam's second year and he is now starting. They were so confidence with Ibaka, that they traded Green away.

Don't act like this guy has not been given a chance.

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:

Bravenewworld wrote:

I read a post you made earlier claiming that you were saying all these things, not because Lamb was from UConn, but because you felt Lamb was... being **** on? I don't really remember, but you were defending Lamb and claiming it was not because of the college ties. I contest this.

Many of the people here, including myself, have dealt with Lambs BS for three years now and many gave him a chance. I didnt take the stance that he absolutely needed to be traded until about mid season last year when Westbrook was out and he was so inconsistent that he was getting DNPs while a 38 year old Fisher and a 34 year old Butler were sucking the minutes up. Despite the fact that we absolutely needed him, but he failed to improve his game.

So you "put up with Lambs BS" for 3 years now when he only played for the Thunder for 2? You must have been a very big Tulsa 66ers fan. When he struggled half way through last year which was essentially his rookie season I was not surprised, thats what rookies do... Not everyone is Kevin Durant believe it or not. Did you really expect OKC to play Lamb heavy minutes late last season and into the playoffs? Not a chance, he was essentially a rookie and theres no way they would make that gamble. Butler and Fisher would have ended up with his minutes eventually no matter how good he was playing he just wasn't ready and I wouldn't expect him to be with the little amount of experience he had.

If it was all about UCONN why would Butler playing over Lamb bother me? When you get a chance you should look up where Butler went to college buddy. Oh ya and I was also such a big Thabeet supporter too right??

I dont know who you support and i dont care, but you're showing a very clear bias for no other. Many of these OKC fans have held out as long as possible with Lamb.

BTW, he's In 3rd year now and its as disappointing as the previous years, point is, he has development issues that even college players should not have. Its really as simple as that, if you don't like it.. whatever.
You really seem to be ignoring the willingness and expectations this team has with their young players. That is, as long as their young players show them that they can be consistent and show improvements. No one expect Harden to do what he did, he was expect to be a Jason Terry type at best, and definitely not as quickly as he did. Its Adam's second year and he is now starting. They were so confidence with Ibaka, that they traded Green away.

Don't act like this guy has not been given a chance.

lol way to just disregard everything I just said. He hasnt even played close to 2 full NBA seasons and your ready to write him off completely. Did you know that he currently has a higher player efficiency rating than Morrow and Roberson even though he has "development issues even college players should not have"? But lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story right?

Morrow's a slightly better shooter/scorer, quietly shooting over 41 percent from 3 point range. Great signing. I hate this debate and topic. Whatever.

Joest2003 wrote:lol way to just disregard everything I just said. He hasnt even played close to 2 full NBA seasons and your ready to write him off completely. Did you know that he currently has a higher player efficiency rating than Morrow and Roberson even though he has "development issues even college players should not have"? But lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story right?

Jesus Christ man, like it or dislike i dont care. FACT is we (OKC fans) have been watching this guy since he has been in the NBA and with our team.

But yah you're right, because trading Harden with Lamb as the major prospect of the trade for us and it turning out, he is wildly inconsistent and we have to trade him and take another unnecessary risk.... great **** story. Brilliant.
Really makes a lot of sense that people are "ignoring the truth" for that great story line! Its on par with Rudy!

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:lol way to just disregard everything I just said. He hasnt even played close to 2 full NBA seasons and your ready to write him off completely. Did you know that he currently has a higher player efficiency rating than Morrow and Roberson even though he has "development issues even college players should not have"? But lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story right?

Jesus Christ man, like it or dislike i dont care. FACT is we (OKC fans) have been watching this guy since he has been in the NBA and with our team.

But yah you're right, because trading Harden with Lamb as the major prospect of the trade for us and it turning out, he is wildly inconsistent and we have to trade him and take another unnecessary risk.... great **** story. Brilliant.
Really makes a lot of sense that people are "ignoring the truth" for that great story line! Its on par with Rudy!

Wildly inconsistent? He was just shooting like 90% from the 3 for a week straight no one was complaining then thats funny. a few bad games and all of a sudden its off with his head. You guys just need to hurry up and trade him already.

Joest2003 wrote:Wildly inconsistent? He was just shooting like 90% from the 3 for a week straight no one was complaining then thats funny. a few bad games and all of a sudden its off with his head. You guys just need to hurry up and trade him already.

1. Yes, wildly inconsistent. And the fact that you have to bring up a week of play, instead of a career or if you really want to take a look at what people are talking about, then simply look at his game by games.

2. The "What to do with Lamb" discussion has been about 50/50 among OKC fans over the past... lets say year and a half. Since the beginning of last season is when we really started seeing these topics. Half way in when he was getting DNPs and instead 38 year olds were playing, was when conversation and debate really started picking up... but hey, "all the sudden" right?

3. I agree we need to trade him. Maybe we can send him back to UConn because he is going to be hard to move. Once GMs start seeing those DNPs on a team that has clearly attempted to inject him in the rotation.... that's not going to look good.

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:Wildly inconsistent? He was just shooting like 90% from the 3 for a week straight no one was complaining then thats funny. a few bad games and all of a sudden its off with his head. You guys just need to hurry up and trade him already.

1. Yes, wildly inconsistent. And the fact that you have to bring up a week of play, instead of a career or if you really want to take a look at what people are talking about, then simply look at his game by games.

2. The "What to do with Lamb" discussion has been about 50/50 among OKC fans over the past... lets say year and a half. Since the beginning of last season is when we really started seeing these topics. Half way in when he was getting DNPs and instead 38 year olds were playing, was when conversation and debate really started picking up... but hey, "all the sudden" right?

3. I agree we need to trade him. Maybe we can send him back to UConn because he is going to be hard to move. Once GMs start seeing those DNPs on a team that has clearly attempted to inject him in the rotation.... that's not going to look good.

His career fg% is .421 Reggies is .431....And why in the world would you expect Lamb to play over Butler last year? Lamb had like 30 NBA games under his belt why would Brooks play him over a veteran when they are chasing a championship and only have a certain window with KD and Russ being together??

Joest2003 wrote:

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:Wildly inconsistent? He was just shooting like 90% from the 3 for a week straight no one was complaining then thats funny. a few bad games and all of a sudden its off with his head. You guys just need to hurry up and trade him already.

1. Yes, wildly inconsistent. And the fact that you have to bring up a week of play, instead of a career or if you really want to take a look at what people are talking about, then simply look at his game by games.

2. The "What to do with Lamb" discussion has been about 50/50 among OKC fans over the past... lets say year and a half. Since the beginning of last season is when we really started seeing these topics. Half way in when he was getting DNPs and instead 38 year olds were playing, was when conversation and debate really started picking up... but hey, "all the sudden" right?

3. I agree we need to trade him. Maybe we can send him back to UConn because he is going to be hard to move. Once GMs start seeing those DNPs on a team that has clearly attempted to inject him in the rotation.... that's not going to look good.

His career fg% is .421 Reggies is .431....And why in the world would you expect Lamb to play over Butler last year? Lamb had like 30 NBA games under his belt why would Brooks play him over a veteran when they are chasing a championship and only have a certain window with KD and Russ being together??

Okay, lets go ahead and just stop attempting to reply to something you're clearly taking shots in the dark at.
If you're not going to bother actually paying attention and simply apply that its some crazy conspiracy to get rid of Lamb by the staff and fans... then... stop? Just, don't argue? I just.... i dont know.
Apparently its all a massive conspiracy of hate though. I mean, it seems that if this was the case we would have moved him when we could have with already leaving contracts but hey.. .whatever. In the world of "hate lamb for lamb" it all makes sense.

How about this, lets see if you can answer this without it being a conspiracy.

While Westbrook was out last season, Lamb was sometimes getting and expected to get 20+ minutes. Why not? We were short guards. Instead, he got a bunch of DNPs and instead a 34 year old Butler OR 38 year old Fisher was starting in his place, and getting the majority of minutes at the 2. When we drastically needed the guard depth... DNPs, not cut minutes... DNPs. Not injured, not sick, but inconsistent (as stated previously but you apparently feel like ignoring).
If there was not MASSIVE concern for Lamb's play during that time period, then please tell me, what was it?
Was it... bad coaching from a coach who has been part of a team who has made the WCFs 3 of the past 4 years?
Bad development from a development team that has developed some of the best talent in the NBA over the past 6 years?
What was it?
If we cant be **** rational, and put blame on the **** player, then what the **** was it?

BTW, Bondom is even now starting to get on board with trading Lamb.
If there was one person on this board who would fly to OKC tonight and give Lamb a hummer (not the car), it would be him. So yah, there is clearly issues with this player and to sit here and even attempt to put blame on anyone else involved with this franchise, other than Lamb, is simply ignoring what they have done in terms of player development.

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:

Bravenewworld wrote:
1. Yes, wildly inconsistent. And the fact that you have to bring up a week of play, instead of a career or if you really want to take a look at what people are talking about, then simply look at his game by games.

2. The "What to do with Lamb" discussion has been about 50/50 among OKC fans over the past... lets say year and a half. Since the beginning of last season is when we really started seeing these topics. Half way in when he was getting DNPs and instead 38 year olds were playing, was when conversation and debate really started picking up... but hey, "all the sudden" right?

3. I agree we need to trade him. Maybe we can send him back to UConn because he is going to be hard to move. Once GMs start seeing those DNPs on a team that has clearly attempted to inject him in the rotation.... that's not going to look good.

His career fg% is .421 Reggies is .431....And why in the world would you expect Lamb to play over Butler last year? Lamb had like 30 NBA games under his belt why would Brooks play him over a veteran when they are chasing a championship and only have a certain window with KD and Russ being together??

Okay, lets go ahead and just stop attempting to reply to something you're clearly taking shots in the dark at.
If you're not going to bother actually paying attention and simply apply that its some crazy conspiracy to get rid of Lamb by the staff and fans... then... stop? Just, don't argue? I just.... i dont know.
Apparently its all a massive conspiracy of hate though. I mean, it seems that if this was the case we would have moved him when we could have with already leaving contracts but hey.. .whatever. In the world of "hate lamb for lamb" it all makes sense.

How about this, lets see if you can answer this without it being a conspiracy.

While Westbrook was out last season, Lamb was sometimes getting and expected to get 20+ minutes. Why not? We were short guards. Instead, he got a bunch of DNPs and instead a 34 year old Butler OR 38 year old Fisher was starting in his place, and getting the majority of minutes at the 2. When we drastically needed the guard depth... DNPs, not cut minutes... DNPs. Not injured, not sick, but inconsistent (as stated previously but you apparently feel like ignoring).
If there was not MASSIVE concern for Lamb's play during that time period, then please tell me, what was it?
Was it... bad coaching from a coach who has been part of a team who has made the WCFs 3 of the past 4 years?
Bad development from a development team that has developed some of the best talent in the NBA over the past 6 years?
What was it?
If we cant be **** rational, and put blame on the **** player, then what the **** was it?

BTW, Bondom is even now starting to get on board with trading Lamb.
If there was one person on this board who would fly to OKC tonight and give Lamb a hummer (not the car), it would be him. So yah, there is clearly issues with this player and to sit here and even attempt to put blame on anyone else involved with this franchise, other than Lamb, is simply ignoring what they have done in terms of player development.

Geez man can you read? I literally just said in my last post why Butler was taking his minutes. you just typed like a whole paragraph but failed to read my 2 sentence post right before which has the answer to the question you just asked. Heres a better question, and please keep the answer to a few sentences that last response was a little drastic. Why would you ever expect Brooks to play Lamb who had 30 games of experience over Butler who was a seasoned veteran the second half of the season and into the playoffs??

You just cant stand being wrong, this started because you said this was all because Uconn then I proved it wasn't then you moved onto sayin hes wildly inconsistent even though his career fg% is over 42% Now your asking why Butler got his minutes like Brooks is really going to gamble on the 1 seed in the western conference on a guy they had playing in Tulsa a few months before.

lamb is a great player and would be a starter on any other team. Problem is, on the all star team of the thunder, you won't be given minutes. Thunder are just way too stacked to allow minutes for a developing prospect.

Bravenewworld wrote:

Joest2003 wrote:

Bravenewworld wrote:
1. Yes, wildly inconsistent. And the fact that you have to bring up a week of play, instead of a career or if you really want to take a look at what people are talking about, then simply look at his game by games.

2. The "What to do with Lamb" discussion has been about 50/50 among OKC fans over the past... lets say year and a half. Since the beginning of last season is when we really started seeing these topics. Half way in when he was getting DNPs and instead 38 year olds were playing, was when conversation and debate really started picking up... but hey, "all the sudden" right?

3. I agree we need to trade him. Maybe we can send him back to UConn because he is going to be hard to move. Once GMs start seeing those DNPs on a team that has clearly attempted to inject him in the rotation.... that's not going to look good.

His career fg% is .421 Reggies is .431....And why in the world would you expect Lamb to play over Butler last year? Lamb had like 30 NBA games under his belt why would Brooks play him over a veteran when they are chasing a championship and only have a certain window with KD and Russ being together??

Okay, lets go ahead and just stop attempting to reply to something you're clearly taking shots in the dark at.
If you're not going to bother actually paying attention and simply apply that its some crazy conspiracy to get rid of Lamb by the staff and fans... then... stop? Just, don't argue? I just.... i dont know.
Apparently its all a massive conspiracy of hate though. I mean, it seems that if this was the case we would have moved him when we could have with already leaving contracts but hey.. .whatever. In the world of "hate lamb for lamb" it all makes sense.

How about this, lets see if you can answer this without it being a conspiracy.

While Westbrook was out last season, Lamb was sometimes getting and expected to get 20+ minutes. Why not? We were short guards. Instead, he got a bunch of DNPs and instead a 34 year old Butler OR 38 year old Fisher was starting in his place, and getting the majority of minutes at the 2. When we drastically needed the guard depth... DNPs, not cut minutes... DNPs. Not injured, not sick, but inconsistent (as stated previously but you apparently feel like ignoring).
If there was not MASSIVE concern for Lamb's play during that time period, then please tell me, what was it?
Was it... bad coaching from a coach who has been part of a team who has made the WCFs 3 of the past 4 years?
Bad development from a development team that has developed some of the best talent in the NBA over the past 6 years?
What was it?
If we cant be **** rational, and put blame on the **** player, then what the **** was it?

BTW, Bondom is even now starting to get on board with trading Lamb.
If there was one person on this board who would fly to OKC tonight and give Lamb a hummer (not the car), it would be him. So yah, there is clearly issues with this player and to sit here and even attempt to put blame on anyone else involved with this franchise, other than Lamb, is simply ignoring what they have done in terms of player development.

Hey, I agree w/ ya here man, but sheesh! I was hopeful for the kid's future, still think he can be a decent sixth man type for someone, just maybe not OKC, I don't like any guys this much !

bondom34 wrote:Hey, I agree w/ ya here man, but sheesh! I was hopeful for the kid's future, still think he can be a decent sixth man type for someone, just maybe not OKC, I don't like any guys this much !

That's what im trying to get through to this guy. None of us didnt want this guy to work out, wtf kind of bs is that? Why would any of us root against him? I think its safe to say, we all want to see him putting 25ppg at 45% from the 3. But that's not happening and some of us started noticing these trends and lack of growth earlier on then others. Which hey, could be pessimistic on our end (as i was one of these people) but none the less it turns out to be more correct than not.

He really is a mirror image of JR Smith, and that guy is the most frustrating player ive ever witnessed. Of every 5 games having 1 game where he looks like one of the most impressive players in the NBA, 1 where he has a solid night. Then 3 where it looks like he has never played an NBA game before in his life.
I think on a team with a lack of options, he could really shine. But when that team his a position of contending and obviously has enough options, his issues end up being highlighted more and become a detriment over a positive.