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Kyle Singler

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:53 am
by TBOKED
I realize $5M/yr may not be obscene given trend of salary/lux cap, but when $5M x 2.5 = $12.5 in luxury tax, you better have your ducks in a row to cut salary elsewhere.

More to the point, can someone explain what exactly this guy brings to the team that justifies the risk of getting stuck with such a monster tax bill? His stats from last year suck. Whether you are looking at PER, RPM they are Kendrick bad.


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Re: Kyle Singler

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:52 am
by bondom34
TBOKED wrote:I realize $5M/yr may not be obscene given trend of salary/lux cap, but when $5M x 2.5 = $12.5 in luxury tax, you better have your ducks in a row to cut salary elsewhere.

More to the point, can someone explain what exactly this guy brings to the team that justifies the risk of getting stuck with such a monster tax bill? His stats from last year suck. Whether you are looking at PER, RPM they are Kendrick bad.


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He was somewhat bad in a starting role in the 20 some games in OKC. That said, 4-5 mil for a backup wing isn't a bad deal, and that's what he is and where he's good. He's a pretty solid bench player, and the numbers bear it out.

Stats as a starter (Career):
28 minutes, 8/4/2 with .525 TS and a 103 O rating, 112 D rating

Bench (Career):
22 minutes, 7/3/0.5 with .569 TS and a 114 O rating, 111 D rating

He's a bench player, and is better than what PJ brings in that role.

Re: Kyle Singler

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:07 am
by slick_watts
Kyle Singler had an unusually low 2pt% here last year, 28.6% (would have been worst in the NBA over the whole season). Career 45.5%. His horrific offensive numbers can mostly be blamed on that as he shot okay from three -- in line with his career numbers. He's 27 so more or less in his prime. Non-guaranteed fifth year, as opposed to team option, gives his contract some extra trade value in the future. Not horrible on DRPM and those metrics before this season.

Kind of the opposite of Kanter since he has several seasons of better play to expect him to regress to.

Re: Kyle Singler

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:41 am
by Bravenewworld
TBOKED wrote:I realize $5M/yr may not be obscene given trend of salary/lux cap, but when $5M x 2.5 = $12.5 in luxury tax, you better have your ducks in a row to cut salary elsewhere.

More to the point, can someone explain what exactly this guy brings to the team that justifies the risk of getting stuck with such a monster tax bill? His stats from last year suck. Whether you are looking at PER, RPM they are Kendrick bad.


I think his pro's as a back up far outweigh the con's.
This league is now full of shooters and many teams, contending teams, are reliant on shooters.
Singler is a pure shooter. The guy was amazing with Duke and shooters generally don't lose their shooting touch from college to professional.
I imagine Presti and Billy feel confident they can put him in a role where his shooting abilities will really shine and then his overall offense will develop from there and he can really start adding.
Detroit was a fairly odd fit for him, especially when they got Van Gundy who would be... very anti-Singler as far as coaching goes.
As far as his OKC stats last year, i don't think they are reflective of much. Its hard to judge low minute players statistically when the sample size is so small.