Goodbye Navy Alternate, Hello Orange Alternate?

[ThunderCeltic]

Looks like the Thunder will be getting a new "Thunder" orange uniform for the 2015-16 season. Since is this the new "official" third jersey it looks like the Navy Alternate from 2012-2015 will be retired or will OKC keep it. The Thunder wore the navy alternate on New Years Eve 2012, 2013, 2014 and have always had mixed reviews with fans (myself included).

[kd 35]

The "leaked" image:

Spoiler:

This one (by the same designer) is a little closer to what we should be getting. It just looks like the white trim isn't there on the neck, shoulders, and side panels. Keep in mind, he did both of these designs on a hunch, before anything was leaked. Impressive.



I prefer this set over the navy fauxbacks we've worn. It's a pretty solid alternate. I'm guessing this means Russ and KD will have some interesting colorways on their Jordans and Nikes.

The colors are reminiscent of the Warriors uniforms from a while back (minus the yellow).

Spoiler:

[spearsy23]

I loved the navy throwbacks. Apparently I'm the only one

[kd 35]

I loved the navy throwbacks. Apparently I'm the only one

My understanding is that they will still be in the rotation of uniforms we wear. At least they are included in the NBA catalog for the 2015-16 season. I'm happy to keep them, but like having something new to mix it up.

We also have the white sleeved uniform with the logo on the front that we saw last year. Add in the Christmas uniform, which would make 6 different uniforms this year.

[SD2042]

The alternate jerseys remind of the Knicks uniform colors all day long.

[dorandragic]

I actually signed up only to express my feelings about this decision.

The navy jerseys are easily my favourite. They don't fit the colour scheme of the team, but in my opinion the colour scheme and the logo are among the worst in the league to begin with (and I am saying this as an OKC fan).

[bondom34]

I actually signed up only to express my feelings about this decision.

The navy jerseys are easily my favourite. They don't fit the colour scheme of the team, but in my opinion the colour scheme and the logo are among the worst in the league to begin with (and I am saying this as an OKC fan).

Welcome to the boards, hope you stick around!

[TBOKED]

That simple, clean blue and white alt always reminded me of Penn State which used to be a good thing, until the P in PSU started to stand for something else.

I hate orange, but I hate that uniform even more. Good riddance.

[bondom34]

That simple, clean blue and white alt always reminded me of Penn State which used to be a good thing, until the P in PSU started to stand for something else.

I hate orange, but I hate that uniform even more. Good riddance.

The P In PSU does not stand for something else. It never did, it never will. Don't get me started on Paterno or the NCAA. He was a great man, and I'm certain you're greatly uninformed if that's your opinion. Being like Penn State is something every Oklahoma school would strive for. They had one really bad guy in the team's presence and a few higher ups screwed up, but graduate more players than just about anyone and operate as a class act. There's a reason the NCAA dropped so much of the crap they put down and now this week said the school doesn't need monitoring anymore.

Spoiler:

. Emails and other evidence discovered by Freeh showed that PSU officials had a plan in place that included reporting Sandusky to child welfare authorities, but that Curley decided to hold off "[a]fter giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday." The Paterno family's evaluation rightly notes that it is impossible to gauge precisely what input Paterno had on that decision.

4. Because Penn State changed computer systems in 2004, emails from before that time cannot be retrieved. The Paterno family's report says any emails discovered by Freeh from before 2004 were those that had been kept by Schultz. As a result, any possible additional evidence—whether damaging or exculpatory—is lost to posterity. That said, if there were other emails that could help clear PSU officials, why wouldn't Schultz have kept those, too?

5. There is no direct evidence showing that Paterno instructed anyone to keep quiet about anything related to Sandusky's abuses. There is also nothing that shows Paterno destroyed or withheld evidence, or that he directed anyone to do so. The same cannot be said of other Penn State administrators, however. Schultz, for one, is accused of withholding an extensive file documenting the university's response to Sandusky's behavior from investigators, in violation of a subpoena.


So what can we conclude? That Penn State officials understood Jerry Sandusky was sexually abusing a child on university property as far back as 2001, but that no report was made to the proper authorities. And while no clear motive for their inaction has been established, it's nearly impossible not to draw the conclusion that Joe Paterno didn't do enough. Don't believe me? Just ask the Paterno family. "It can be argued that Joe Paterno should have gone further. He should have pushed his superiors to see that they were doing their jobs." That's from the statement issued by the Paternos on the morning that Freeh released his report. They added: "We accept this criticism."
http://deadspin.com/5983159/what-the-paterno-familys-investigation-got-right-and-wrong-about-the-freeh-report

On the other hand, OU is getting into scandals for players engaging in racist chants, so maybe make some stupid generalizations about the entire state of Oklahoma why don't you, that was much more recent? Or OSU having recruits get sex with hostesses from the team? Because that's equally correct to assume, so must be true huh? I've never been to OK, but I assume all the guys are racist and the girls are all hookers at those schools, that's what everyone does there right? Don't bring that garbage around here and if you want more actual information on the subject feel free to look it up, because you managed to make a really foolish blanket statement because of a lack of knowledge. That pisses me off, and that isn't easy to do.

[TBOKED]

Quite the overreaction. Just sharing my opinion that I can't stand the uniform. I said nothing about Paterno.

Since you made it personal, I will defend.

The fact is the program is linked to 15 years and 10 known cases of pedophilia through convicted university employee Sandusky who reportedly was allowed to continue being around the program even after university officials became aware it was happening. That is way worse than anything you can tie OU, OSU or any other university to. We are talking about innocent little boys whose lives were crushed, whose families will be impacted until the day they die. I am not saying that everyone that went to the school or represented the University is a pedophile or bears culpability. However, like it or not, it killed the brand. I once thought PSU uniforms were the coolest, one of the great minimalist uniforms in football. The Thunder uni alt is very similar in colors and simplicity. Whether it reminds you of PSU or not, it reminds me of PSU, and I don't like the first thing that comes to my mind.

If I had said that I don't like clowns because it reminds me of Wayne Gacy, would you start saying cops or teachers or whatever are way worse than clowns? What?

So please don't vilify me. I did nothing wrong. Direct your anger at the university. 15 years to get to the bottom of the situation, unacceptable.

[bondom34]

The fact is the program is linked to 15 years and 10 known cases of pedophilia through convicted university employee Sandusky who reportedly was allowed to continue being around the program even after university officials became aware it was happening. That is way worse than anything you can tie OU, OSU or any other university to. We are talking about innocent little boys whose lives were crushed, whose families will be impacted until the day they die. I am not saying that everyone that went to the school or represented the University is a pedophile or bears culpability. However, like it or not, it killed the brand. I once thought PSU uniforms were the coolest, one of the great minimalist uniforms in football.

Oh, no you clearly did. You made a vast and sweeping generalization and continue to do so. So it killed the brand for OU and OSU that they're tied in scandal (on a much more recent basis and more times in general) over a racist chant and hosting recruits using (essentially) prostitutes. I'm talking about an entire race of people who the state of Oklahoma deems inferior and the downplay of women's rights to the extent that they are merely objects. This impacted the families of those people and many others in similar situations, and in no way am I downplaying what happened at Penn State, I understand it was a terrible, terrible thing. But to generalize the entire university over what a handful of people in high positions did is foolish and juvenile.

It has zero, less than zero to do with the uniforms or how the football program or school should be and is perceived today. The simple fact is that its a better academic school, better academic sports program, and holds itself to a higher standard than either of the programs I mentioned, so your stance is very poorly thought out, and now that I know that you are willing to make a generalization about an entire university I can only assume that since OU makes such generalizations about race and people there do that in general that it must tarnish the brand there as well. Again, the snide, smartass comment isn't necessary and was rather foolish to begin with. The fact that you feel this generalization is true must simply mean that that's what happens at OU and OSU as they've diminished and generalized the lives of both an entire gender and race.

So in summation, you were willing to make a sweeping statement on an entire university based on a lack of information, completely disregard any and all reform there, also ignore the fact that said university has other than one (granted terrible) occasion been the highest standard for ethics in college sports, and make a classless joke all at once. Well done sir. In fact, the orange reminds me too much of that school with the girls hosting recruits. Guess that's what the S in OSU stands for. Well, if OSU or OU had higher standards for their student athletes in general.

[TBOKED]

You must have an affiliation with PSU given that you are so defensive. I completely agree that PSU is a better academic institution than OU or any other school on Oklahoma, but that has nothing to do with this.

OUs brand did suffer, it will continue to for some time, and rightly so. However, they kicked the fraternity and key offenders off campus almost immediately after it happened and hired an African American to help monitor and improve race relations. Contrast that to PSU that allowed a predator to feast on its campus for 15 years. For you to compare the two is crazy.

Didn't your daddy ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right? It is wrong thinking to immediately start comparing PSU to other universities. What they did, or didn't do, was wrong regardless of what other universities have done.

If you say you never generalize, you are a liar. Basic psychology outlines something called heuristics that people use all the time to process information, people of all races and creeds. If heuristics are used to oppress a race, it becomes racist. So don't pull that race card on me. I am embarrassed for this country's history on race, I do not support it, nor do most Oklahomans.

I think PSU should consider ditching the uniform because whether it is fair or not, it evokes a bad memory for many people. Would you argue the rebel flag should continue to fly? I would not. Regardless of any respectable meaning it might have once had, it is clearly now an oppressive symbol that cannot be tolerated.

I am not asking everyone to agree with me that the Thunder alt looks like PSUs, or to even agree with my perspective. However, I have a right to my opinion. I shouldn't be assaulted for it, and it is offensive that that you are doing so.

Finally, your remark about my comments being smart ass and snide are really interesting. You should read your own posts before throwing stones. You do it all the time. Even if I actually intended for them to be hurtful which I didn't Two wrongs still don't make a right.

[bondom34]

You must have an affiliation with PSU given that you are so defensive. I completely agree that PSU is a better academic institution than OU or any other school on Oklahoma, but that has nothing to do with this.

OUs brand did suffer, it will continue to for some time, and rightly so. However, they kicked the fraternity and key offenders off campus almost immediately after it happened and hired an African American to help monitor and improve race relations. Contrast that to PSU that allowed a predator to feast on its campus for 15 years. For you to compare the two is crazy.

Didn't your daddy ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right? It is wrong thinking to immediately start comparing PSU to other universities. What they did, or didn't do, was wrong regardless of what other universities have done.

If you say you never generalize, you are a liar. Basic psychology outlines something called heuristics that people use all the time to process information, people of all races and creeds. If heuristics are used to oppress a race, it becomes racist. So don't pull that race card on me. I am embarrassed for this country's history on race, I do not support it, nor do most Oklahomans.

I think PSU should consider ditching the uniform because whether it is fair or not, it evokes a bad memory for many people. Would you argue the rebel flag should continue to fly? I would not. Regardless of any respectable meaning it might have once had, it is clearly now an oppressive symbol that cannot be tolerated.

I am not asking everyone to agree with me that the Thunder alt looks like PSUs, or to even agree with my perspective. However, I have a right to my opinion. I shouldn't be assaulted for it, and it is offensive that that you are doing so.

Finally, your remark about my comments being smart ass and snide are really interesting. You should read your own posts before throwing stones. You do it all the time.

Holy crap that's a terrible comparison. They had one coach and 2 higher ups do this. When it was found out they completely reformed everything to the extent that the NCAA, who handed the sanctions, said they were doing well enough to end it early. No, I don't generalize, and yes, your perspective is narrow minded and snide. And again, if they can't be compared to other universities, why would you bring them up in the first place.

The uniforms stand for what the school has stood for for over 100 years, integrity, academics, and (outstanding one large incident) ethics. They started the known "we are" chant because a school in the south wouldn't allow black players to play a game and they decided to sit it out because the coach who you're trying to shame wouldn't do segregate his players. They graduate one of the highest percentage of players in the country. Most guys from those teams who go on to life after football do so with a degree that allows them to do very well post-career, including multiple television analysts who are clearly intelligent and very well versed in public speaking and media (Blackledge, Millen, Michael Robinson, Arrington, among others). They also raise money in one of (maybe the) largest cancer research funding programs in the country. So yeah, to generalize the herp derp "P stands for something else" is really infuriating, narrow minded, and snide.

You made a terrible joke about a terrible situation. Not a single person at PSU supported what happened there other than the perpetrator and to generalize an entire university over it is both insulting and incredibly narrow minded. The OSU and OU situations involved more team members so can, in that regard, be considered much more widespread. I can go deeper into this to explain why said comment was so incredibly stupid and offensive but thought maybe it would be comprehensible to you, apparently not. So I supposed since joking about pedophilia while throwing out a huge generalization is completely acceptable to you, similar statements are. They're terrible to say and I assumed most people here were above that. Apparently you're not.

Also, to generalize isn't inherent to anyone, and to make a generalization as offensive as yours is insulting. To then say "well everyone does it" is insulting to everyone. I have never heard a single person on earth say they associate the uniforms with anything until now, so that seems to be a "you" thing, not some general idea they should ditch the entire history of the team for one guy. That seems like one guy with a terrible thought he can't process fully and is unable to determine that one man does not take an entire university down. By your comparison to the rebel flag, they should just change the US flag because at one time we had slaves. Women were suppressed as well, should change it again.

Oh, and to the final 2 sentences, I've seen you here, on the GB, and the trade board. Yeah, you've shown a pattern.

And, as a final point, there are very few ways to genuinely piss me off. I've gotten into a variety of debates here and disagreed vehemently with some (Hi Bravenewworld!). But never to the extent I felt he or others were making offensive and narrow minded comments about a large group of people. I can respect disagreement, not offensive generalizations.

[TBOKED]

And you are actually a moderator ?!?

I wish you would pick another team because I am ashamed to have you represent his board.

You are doing exactly what racist white people do when they don't want to own up to what they have done. Deflect attention, point the finger at someone else, and begin citing the good that has been done.
Sort of like, "well, my family owned slaves, but they were treated well and everyone was doing it. Ours were treated the best". Seriously messed up.

No need to ban me to maintain your cadre of people that think like you. I won't be back.

[bondom34]

And you are actually a moderator ?!?

I wish you would pick another team because I am ashamed to have you represent his board.

You are doing exactly what racist white people do when they don't want to own up to what they have done. Deflect attention, point the finger at someone else, and begin citing the good that has been done.
Sort of like, "well, my family owned slaves, but they were treated well and everyone was doing it. Ours were treated the best". Seriously messed up.

No need to ban me to maintain your cadre of people that think like you. I won't be back.

You're welcome to stay if you want, but I never deflected anything. I said straight up what happened was awful, and those who did it were punished. You made a great generalization about everyone else there based on those 3 people. Sort of like "well, some people in the south had slaves, so they're all racist now too". No, I don't believe that, but yes based on your statement that's what you're saying. I can't believe you'd first make a tasteless, classless joke then stand up for it when called. And as a mod here for a while I'm not taking too much worry on your opinion right now.

[Kizz Fastfists]

You are doing exactly what racist white people do when they don't want to own up to what they have done. Deflect attention, point the finger at someone else, and begin citing the good that has been done.
Sort of like, "well, my family owned slaves, but they were treated well and everyone was doing it. Ours were treated the best". Seriously messed up.

I hope my ancestors had slaves, because that was a representation of wealth at the time. Just like it was for Romans and every other advanced society at some point in their history. I guess you don't wear shoes that are made in a sweatshop in some 3rd world country, because that is still slavery even if it is overlooked by the masses. Look down at your feet and see that Nike swoosh it says that you support modern day slavery you racist piece of trash.

[bondom34]

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[spearsy23]

The most despicable thing about Penn State is losing to Temple. That's almost unforgiveBle.

[bondom34]

The most despicable thing about Penn State is losing to Temple. That's almost unforgiveBle.

Was pissed for a week. Hell, still am.

[spearsy23]

The most despicable thing about Penn State is losing to Temple. That's almost unforgiveBle.

Was pissed for a week. Hell, still am.

I'm from KU country, man. We cheer for the volleyball team this time of year