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Internal development
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:35 am
by jambalaya
http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9312&p=29717#p29717After year 3 Thunder players on average start to decline. Modestly in year 4, bigger in year 5 then less or stable.
So if you are looking for internal development, expect it for real young guys but not the more experienced young guys like Adams, Kanter, Roberson and Oladipo.
Other metrics might have different patterns but this is where I started.
Re: Internal development
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 3:44 am
by spearsy23
jambalaya wrote:http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9312&p=29717#p29717
After year 3 Thunder players on average start to decline. Modestly in year 4, bigger in year 5 then less or stable.
So if you are looking for internal development, expect it for real young guys but not the more experienced young guys like Adams, Kanter, Roberson and Oladipo.
Other metrics might have different patterns but this is where I started.
I'll be interested to see what other metrics say, especially since win shares is dependent on team success so I'd expect the variance in wins/losses has a fairly large impact.
Re: Internal development
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:51 pm
by slick_watts
win shares is just dean oliver individual ORTG and DRTG fit proportionally to possessions played and to fit into a team's win total no?
Re: Internal development
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 3:10 pm
by Andre Roberstan
You hit any other teams yet? I feel like this is gonna need some context, as you noted on the APBR post.
Re: Internal development
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:55 pm
by jambalaya
BR is weird right now so I can't get the data. When I do it will take an hour or two to manipulate per team. I intend to do at least one more.
BPM and RPM are "dependent on team success" too. PER isn't and sucks partly for that reason.
Slick, your description of Winshares is roughly right. Anyone can check the BR explanation of it if they want the exact derivation. If the site works on that page.
Re: Internal development
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:55 pm
by jambalaya
BR problem reported and coincidentally or not fixed shortly thereafter.
I have the Spurs data. Probably will have done tonight. May do Hawks or another as well.
Re: Internal development
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 2:11 am
by jambalaya
Another guy did Spurs before I was ready.
Thunder a bit better gains in year 2 &3, Spurs better in 4&5. Small changes after that.