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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:23 am
by gaoj2
The comment above are all all dreaming, this team suck
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:44 am
by bondom34
gaoj2 wrote:I think OKC fans are dumbest in NBA who still believe the owner will pay the luxury tax. Remember you have Westbrook, Kevin durant, James harden and Ibaka couple seasons. But the owner don't want to pay harden 2 million more so he decide to trade harden to Houston a what? None of them remain in OKC uniform. May be Steve Adam who got from toronto via Houston. So what Adam can do nothing to win a champ. Just save your money and time, this ownership will never overpay for champ
Did you miss their payroll last year or nah.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:57 pm
by Atomic Punk
gaoj2 wrote:I think OKC fans are dumbest in NBA who still believe the owner will pay the luxury tax. Remember you have Westbrook, Kevin durant, James harden and Ibaka couple seasons. But the owner don't want to pay harden 2 million more so he decide to trade harden to Houston a what? None of them remain in OKC uniform. May be Steve Adam who got from toronto via Houston. So what Adam can do nothing to win a champ. Just save your money and time, this ownership will never overpay for champ
I think it is pretty ironic for someone who writes like they are borderline illiterate to call anyone dumb.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:24 pm
by ThunderBolt
gaoj2 wrote:The comment above are all all dreaming, this team suck
The pervious post before this one was yours. So...
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:34 pm
by Andre Roberstan
gaoj2 wrote:The comment above are all all dreaming, this team suck
If you have something constructive to say, say it. If you don't, don't come on the board just to troll.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:06 pm
by ThunderBolt
After last night I would start considering if we could get Ingram by taking Deng...it’s that bad.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2017 8:05 pm
by CoachD
bondom34 wrote:gaoj2 wrote:I think OKC fans are dumbest in NBA who still believe the owner will pay the luxury tax. Remember you have Westbrook, Kevin durant, James harden and Ibaka couple seasons. But the owner don't want to pay harden 2 million more so he decide to trade harden to Houston a what? None of them remain in OKC uniform. May be Steve Adam who got from toronto via Houston. So what Adam can do nothing to win a champ. Just save your money and time, this ownership will never overpay for champ
Did you miss their payroll last year or nah.
Harden had to be dealt because of the fat contract of Kendrick Perkins. Had it not been for that 8 million, OKC could have offered Harden the full max.
That being said, NOBODY was sure Harden was a max player, and truthfully, if he stayed with Westbrook and Durant, never would have gotten enough touches to look like one.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2017 8:15 pm
by bondom34
CoachD wrote:bondom34 wrote:gaoj2 wrote:I think OKC fans are dumbest in NBA who still believe the owner will pay the luxury tax. Remember you have Westbrook, Kevin durant, James harden and Ibaka couple seasons. But the owner don't want to pay harden 2 million more so he decide to trade harden to Houston a what? None of them remain in OKC uniform. May be Steve Adam who got from toronto via Houston. So what Adam can do nothing to win a champ. Just save your money and time, this ownership will never overpay for champ
Did you miss their payroll last year or nah.
Harden had to be dealt because of the fat contract of Kendrick Perkins. Had it not been for that 8 million, OKC could have offered Harden the full max.
That being said, NOBODY was sure Harden was a max player, and truthfully, if he stayed with Westbrook and Durant, never would have gotten enough touches to look like one.
Did you miss their payroll last year or nah. Actually and 2 years ago.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2017 10:36 pm
by Balkman32
gaoj2 wrote:I think OKC fans are dumbest in NBA who still believe the owner will pay the luxury tax. Remember you have Westbrook, Kevin durant, James harden and Ibaka couple seasons. But the owner don't want to pay harden 2 million more so he decide to trade harden to Houston a what? None of them remain in OKC uniform. May be Steve Adam who got from toronto via Houston. So what Adam can do nothing to win a champ. Just save your money and time, this ownership will never overpay for champ
What are you talking about. They have paid it for the 3 of the past 4 years and they were planning on paying it in that year but the snake went to join the best team in the league.
The idea was not that they didn't want to give James 2 million. They offered him a 4 year $56 million deal. They could have offered him 4 years $60 million. So the difference was $4 million. The salary cap for the entire roster that year 12-13 was $59 million. The Thunder knew they could compete with that team. But, Sam decided to double down, get a bunch of younger prospects and picks and try to build a second younger core so that the Thunder could be layers with electric players for 10-15 year sand also protect themselves from losing someone if a career injury occurred or if a snake left in FA. Plus harden wanted to start and the Thunder basically had no bench.
This team just took on Melo's $52 million contract that relates to an additional $20 million in tax room they just signed up for w/o the ability to move off Melo's money because he retains his full no trade clause.
So maybe get your facts straight before you bring this crap.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:35 am
by BleedGreen1989
Knrstz wrote:After last night I would start considering if we could get Ingram by taking Deng...it’s that bad.
Huh? No chance in hell LA does that. Any team would be foolish not to take that deal.
The guy I’d be trying hard to move, if possible, is Andre.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:44 am
by Kizz Fastfists
BleedGreen1989 wrote:The guy I’d be trying hard to move, if possible, is Andre.
Moving Andre doesn't do anything but make the team worse. Moving PG helps the team tank and gets them something out of the mistake.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:50 am
by BleedGreen1989
Kizz Fastfists wrote:BleedGreen1989 wrote:The guy I’d be trying hard to move, if possible, is Andre.
Moving Andre doesn't do anything but make the team worse. Moving PG helps the team tank and gets them something out of the mistake.
Helps the team tank?
Maybe that’s what fans feel at the moment but there can’t be any way the front office is going to tank this season.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:09 am
by Kizz Fastfists
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Helps the team tank?
Maybe that’s what fans feel at the moment but there can’t be any way the front office is going to tank this season.
That is why they won't move Andre. If they really wanted to tank the two players to move would be Adams and Roberson. They won't move either of them. The might move PG since he is going to walk after the season, but they will win enough from here out to be a 6-8 seed and that will be just enough to keep the front office from doing what is in the best interests of the organization.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:26 pm
by Andre Roberstan
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Kizz Fastfists wrote:BleedGreen1989 wrote:The guy I’d be trying hard to move, if possible, is Andre.
Moving Andre doesn't do anything but make the team worse. Moving PG helps the team tank and gets them something out of the mistake.
Helps the team tank?
Maybe that’s what fans feel at the moment but there can’t be any way the front office is going to tank this season.
Kizz is Team Tank or Championship. He's been calling for us to trade everyone and tear down for 2 years now.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:46 pm
by ThunderBolt
Even a good trade will end predictably. The player will come in a provide an immediate boost. However between dononvans whacky roststions and lack of an offensive system, bad habits will begin to take root in the players game eventually rendering him useless.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:41 am
by dakomish23
RoLo being shopped. Seems like a good fit. This team desperately needs someone who can soak up mins with Adams on the bench
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:42 am
by dakomish23
Knrstz wrote:Even a good trade will end predictably. The player will come in a provide an immediate boost. However between dononvans whacky roststions and lack of an offensive system, bad habits will begin to take root in the players game eventually rendering him useless.
I hope they don’t get guys who need to be set up, b/c those guys will be sorely disappointed. Get them guys who can do stuff if given the ball
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:54 am
by ThunderBolt
dakomish23 wrote:RoLo being shopped. Seems like a good fit. This team desperately needs someone who can soak up mins with Adams on the bench
Rolo could really help this team lock down the seven seed. Yippee.
The last thing we need to do is trade any kind of an asset to improve this team that isn’t making any effort to improve themselves.
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:02 am
by dakomish23
Knrstz wrote:dakomish23 wrote:RoLo being shopped. Seems like a good fit. This team desperately needs someone who can soak up mins with Adams on the bench
Rolo could really help this team lock down the seven seed. Yippee.
The last thing we need to do is trade any kind of an asset to improve this team that isn’t making any effort to improve themselves.
I’m assuming it wouldn’t be a big asset. C market always seems saturated.
You’re right about the effort part though. When it seems they care about winning above else, they win. At least based on the few games I’ve seen
Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:46 pm
by thekaoswithin
dakomish23 wrote:Knrstz wrote:dakomish23 wrote:RoLo being shopped. Seems like a good fit. This team desperately needs someone who can soak up mins with Adams on the bench
Rolo could really help this team lock down the seven seed. Yippee.
The last thing we need to do is trade any kind of an asset to improve this team that isn’t making any effort to improve themselves.
I’m assuming it wouldn’t be a big asset. C market always seems saturated.
You’re right about the effort part though. When it seems they care about winning above else, they win. At least based on the few games I’ve seen
Rolo for Huestis and Dakari.
Bulls 90% wouldn't take that, but it's also the most I'd be willing to give up. Who knows, maybe the Bulls give Huestis time and find something valuable. That's not going to happen here.