12/5 - POSTGAME | Utah Jazz (94) - (100) Oklahoma City Thunder

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Paul George | 21 PTS (6-12 FG), 2 STL
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Andre Roberson | 4 PTS (2-2 FG), 4 REB, 2 STL, 3 BLK
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Steven Adams | 20 PTS (9-10 FG), 9 REB
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Russell Westbrook | 34 PTS (12-25 FG), 13 REB, 14 AST
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Post#1 » by Thabo Sefolosha » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:22 am

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Post#2 » by alessandrux » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:24 am

I like this win.
Our game still has a lot of flaws, but winning after such a big deficit feels really good.
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Post#3 » by Andre Roberstan » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:28 am

This is the first game I've actually felt good about since Golden State.
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Post#4 » by InTheSabonus » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:29 am

It didn't really do that much to ease my doubts. But I think it was a good win. We know Donovan almost definitely won't get canned, so this is kind of "best case" OKC basketball under him. Just playing smothering defence, letting that lead to offence, create momentum, get the arena hyped...Felt like OKC basketball of a few years ago. And we weren't taking garbage shots in the 4th quarter, they attacked in the right ways, not in the ways that have previously lead to choking. Nice to see Melo get a couple of crucial buckets after a bad game. And Steven Adams...So much love for him.
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Post#5 » by thekaoswithin » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:33 am

I think the last 16 minutes of basketball were about all you can ask for. The bench played well on both ends and chipped at the lead a little, the starters close it out.

Donovan Mitchell is going to be a star, btw. Just unlucky that he had to alternate between PG13 and Robes all night. That's a rough combo
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Post#6 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:33 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:This is the first game I've actually felt good about since Golden State.

Yeah, I'm actually happy after a game, I'd almost forgotten what that was like.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#7 » by Thabo Sefolosha » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:34 am

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Post#8 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:35 am

Our starters seem to be seeing the floor a LOT. Billy showing *some* urgency, finally.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#9 » by InTheSabonus » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:40 am

Also, credit (although it took him long enough) to Donovan where it's due: We've finally stopped with the roberson 3 point attempts. Now he's just cutting/driving or passing it back. I'm happy with that.
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Post#10 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:40 am

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“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#11 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:41 am

InTheSabonus wrote:Also, credit (although it took him long enough) to Donovan where it's due: We've finally stopped with the roberson 3 point attempts. Now he's just cutting/driving or passing it back. I'm happy with that.

I refuse to credit him for a change that most posters with any sense thought was going to happen before the season ever started.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#12 » by InTheSabonus » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:44 am

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InTheSabonus wrote:Also, credit (although it took him long enough) to Donovan where it's due: We've finally stopped with the roberson 3 point attempts. Now he's just cutting/driving or passing it back. I'm happy with that.

I refuse to credit him for a change that most posters with any sense thought was going to happen before the season ever started.


This is relative to what we expect from him. Baby steps for any other coach are actually giant leaps for Billy-kind.
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Post#13 » by NaturalThunder » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:56 am

Donovan Mitchell...wow.

His last six games he's averaging 26.2 PPG on 53% FG (55/104), 49% 3P (27/55), 77% FT (20/26), 68% TS
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Post#14 » by dakomish23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:58 am

Unless he’s hot, there should be no situation when Melo takes more shots than PG.

Big win against a team that was on a nice streak.

Someone act happy :lol:
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Post#15 » by Andre Roberstan » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:10 am

dakomish23 wrote:Unless he’s hot, there should be no situation when Melo takes more shots than PG.

Big win against a team that was on a nice streak.

Someone act happy :lol:


This IS us happy. We're a depressing bunch.
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Post#16 » by Andre Roberstan » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:18 am

GUYS

WE RAN OFFENSE TO CLOSE OUT A GAME.

When Melo and PG were hammering the Jazz to end the game? That was Hawk Stagger.

I've been chatting with one of the coaching guys I respect and he identified it. One of their pet plays for PG.

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It was either PG stepping into a rhythm shot or Melo coming free off the roll.

Only difference here is that Russ is in the 2 spot and Robes is in the 1.
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Post#17 » by dakomish23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:26 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Unless he’s hot, there should be no situation when Melo takes more shots than PG.

Big win against a team that was on a nice streak.

Someone act happy :lol:


This IS us happy. We're a depressing bunch.


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I know this season so far isn’t what was anticipated, but there is a lot of season left.

Get the bench some help ASAP
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Post#18 » by dakomish23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:33 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:GUYS

WE RAN OFFENSE TO CLOSE OUT A GAME.

When Melo and PG were hammering the Jazz to end the game? That was Hawk Stagger.

I've been chatting with one of the coaching guys I respect and he identified it. One of their pet plays for PG.

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It was either PG stepping into a rhythm shot or Melo coming free off the roll.

Only difference here is that Russ is in the 2 spot and Robes is in the 1.


That’s not this right?

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Post#19 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:37 am

Andre Roberstan wrote:GUYS

WE RAN OFFENSE TO CLOSE OUT A GAME.

When Melo and PG were hammering the Jazz to end the game? That was Hawk Stagger.

I've been chatting with one of the coaching guys I respect and he identified it. One of their pet plays for PG.

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It was either PG stepping into a rhythm shot or Melo coming free off the roll.

Only difference here is that Russ is in the 2 spot and Robes is in the 1.

I'm curious about the reasoning behind having the play end with the 1 setting a flare screen for the 5. I'm assuming it's to pull the opposing center out of the paint, but unless the 5 is a stretch big it seems like you'd be most likely to get a layup/dunk by setting a back screen, or setting up an opportunity for an open three or lob by having the 5 slip a pindown for the 1.
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Post#20 » by Andre Roberstan » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:37 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:GUYS

WE RAN OFFENSE TO CLOSE OUT A GAME.

When Melo and PG were hammering the Jazz to end the game? That was Hawk Stagger.

I've been chatting with one of the coaching guys I respect and he identified it. One of their pet plays for PG.

Image

It was either PG stepping into a rhythm shot or Melo coming free off the roll.

Only difference here is that Russ is in the 2 spot and Robes is in the 1.


That’s not this right?



Not even close.
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