2017-2018 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread Part Deux: Follow the Melo Brick Road

[Thabo Sefolosha]

Didn't have such a great game today but Sabonis looks like a long-term keeper.

wrong team board

[spearsy23]

TBH I'm kinda ready for the rebuild, feeling down about losses has been tiring.

[ThunderBolt]

TBH I'm kinda ready for the rebuild, feeling down about losses has been tiring.

Where I find myself torn is that if George stays, we still have another year of melo.

[bondom34]

I list know Russ isn't getting traded no matter. I don't see a rebuild happening

[ThunderBolt]

I list know Russ isn't getting traded no matter. I don't see a rebuild happening

If George leaves do you think russ wants to play out his career with this roster?

[bondom34]

I list know Russ isn't getting traded no matter. I don't see a rebuild happening

If George leaves do you think russ wants to play out his career with this roster?

I actually kinda do. Not necessarily to compete but realistically I don't see a team who has need and value to trade. And its not really up to Russ. Its up to Presti.

My guess is if George leaves its a few seasons of mediocrity til Russ totally falls off the map which depends on his health. If they rebuild I would embrace it but at this point I don't see it. Plus the new lotto incentives reduce benefits of losing more.

Just cheering for wins and hoping George stays. Otherwise its possibly gonna be a long few seasons.

[slick_watts]

if george leaves the first thing ownership should do is fire sam presti.

[ThunderBolt]

I list know Russ isn't getting traded no matter. I don't see a rebuild happening

If George leaves do you think russ wants to play out his career with this roster?

I actually kinda do. Not necessarily to compete but realistically I don't see a team who has need and value to trade. And its not really up to Russ. Its up to Presti.

My guess is if George leaves its a few seasons of mediocrity til Russ totally falls off the map which depends on his health. If they rebuild I would embrace it but at this point I don't see it. Plus the new lotto incentives reduce benefits of losing more.

Just cheering for wins and hoping George stays. Otherwise its possibly gonna be a long few seasons.

That would be a big indictment on russ since he’s said he wants to win a championship. Yes it’s prestis decision but if he wants to win and George leaves, he should request a trade.

[bondom34]

If George leaves do you think russ wants to play out his career with this roster?

I actually kinda do. Not necessarily to compete but realistically I don't see a team who has need and value to trade. And its not really up to Russ. Its up to Presti.

My guess is if George leaves its a few seasons of mediocrity til Russ totally falls off the map which depends on his health. If they rebuild I would embrace it but at this point I don't see it. Plus the new lotto incentives reduce benefits of losing more.

Just cheering for wins and hoping George stays. Otherwise its possibly gonna be a long few seasons.

That would be a big indictment on russ since he’s said he wants to win a championship. Yes it’s prestis decision but if he wants to win and George leaves, he should request a trade.

I just don't see a way Presti does it. Or a team that has a need, fit, and value. Its the same with any top tier PG.

[ThunderBolt]

I actually kinda do. Not necessarily to compete but realistically I don't see a team who has need and value to trade. And its not really up to Russ. Its up to Presti.

My guess is if George leaves its a few seasons of mediocrity til Russ totally falls off the map which depends on his health. If they rebuild I would embrace it but at this point I don't see it. Plus the new lotto incentives reduce benefits of losing more.

Just cheering for wins and hoping George stays. Otherwise its possibly gonna be a long few seasons.

That would be a big indictment on russ since he’s said he wants to win a championship. Yes it’s prestis decision but if he wants to win and George leaves, he should request a trade.

I just don't see a way Presti does it. Or a team that has a need, fit, and value. Its the same with any top tier PG.

I think it would have to be mutual between russ and the organization. If there was a taker for griffin then someone will want russ even if the return isnt great. There is always a GM that is desperate to win now to save his job.

[bondom34]

That would be a big indictment on russ since he’s said he wants to win a championship. Yes it’s prestis decision but if he wants to win and George leaves, he should request a trade.

I just don't see a way Presti does it. Or a team that has a need, fit, and value. Its the same with any top tier PG.

I think it would have to be mutual between russ and the organization. If there was a taker for griffin then someone will want russ even if the return isnt great. There is always a GM that is desperate to win now to save his job.

True.

But I don't see what LA did as a rebuild. They got some meh picks and guys who'll keep them competitive.

[spearsy23]

That would be a big indictment on russ since he’s said he wants to win a championship. Yes it’s prestis decision but if he wants to win and George leaves, he should request a trade.

I just don't see a way Presti does it. Or a team that has a need, fit, and value. Its the same with any top tier PG.

I think it would have to be mutual between russ and the organization. If there was a taker for griffin then someone will want russ even if the return isnt great. There is always a GM that is desperate to win now to save his job.

San Antonio for Murray, Mills, and Pau plus picks. Not exciting, but probably in line with what you actually get. Maybe mke for Parker, maker and pick if you're lucky.

[Kizz Fastfists]

San Antonio for Murray, Mills, and Pau plus picks. Not exciting, but probably in line with what you actually get. Maybe mke for Parker, maker and pick if you're lucky.

I think you could send Russ to Memphis for their pick this year, top 5, McLemore and other assets from Conley going to a 3rd team. A similar return to what Kyrie got. The problem is last off-season was the perfect time to move Russ with Boston having a load of assets and a PG need. I believe they would have given more for Russ then they gave for Kyrie. So you would have gotten IT, the Brooklyn pick, Crowder and more and then you could have turned Crowder and IT into more picks and/or young players.

[Rocketsbaby]

San Antonio for Murray, Mills, and Pau plus picks. Not exciting, but probably in line with what you actually get. Maybe mke for Parker, maker and pick if you're lucky.

I think you could send Russ to Memphis for their pick this year, top 5, McLemore and other assets from Conley going to a 3rd team. A similar return to what Kyrie got. The problem is last off-season was the perfect time to move Russ with Boston having a load of assets and a PG need. I believe they would have given more for Russ then they gave for Kyrie. So you would have gotten IT, the Brooklyn pick, Crowder and more and then you could have turned Crowder and IT into more picks and/or young players.

Are you forgetting that IT's career is over, Crowder sucked this year, and that pick ended up not being very good? That would have been a laughable return for Westbrook.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Are you forgetting that IT's career is over, Crowder sucked this year, and that pick ended up not being very good? That would have been a laughable return for Westbrook.

At the time Crowder, with his cheap contract, had very good trade value and he still does. It also had good trade value and his career is far from over, although he isn't getting a max contract this off-season like he thought he was going to get. We have no idea what that pick is other then it is going to be 1-3 or 8-11. The pick will yield a very solid prospect and has a chance to be #1. Russ isn't doing anything for OKC other then keeping them chasing first round playoff exits so a return like that would have been a much better alternative to going deep into the tax on a one year "run". Also, without Russ and flipping IT and Crowder to other places for more picks means OKC would have been a bottom 5 team this year and would be in good position to have two top 10 picks with an outside chance at the top 2 picks in the draft.

[Revived]

San Antonio for Murray, Mills, and Pau plus picks. Not exciting, but probably in line with what you actually get. Maybe mke for Parker, maker and pick if you're lucky.

I think you could send Russ to Memphis for their pick this year, top 5, McLemore and other assets from Conley going to a 3rd team. A similar return to what Kyrie got. The problem is last off-season was the perfect time to move Russ with Boston having a load of assets and a PG need. I believe they would have given more for Russ then they gave for Kyrie. So you would have gotten IT, the Brooklyn pick, Crowder and more and then you could have turned Crowder and IT into more picks and/or young players.

Are you forgetting that IT's career is over, Crowder sucked this year, and that pick ended up not being very good? That would have been a laughable return for Westbrook.

Are you joking? It's a top 8 pick in a loaded draft.

[Rocketsbaby]

I think you could send Russ to Memphis for their pick this year, top 5, McLemore and other assets from Conley going to a 3rd team. A similar return to what Kyrie got. The problem is last off-season was the perfect time to move Russ with Boston having a load of assets and a PG need. I believe they would have given more for Russ then they gave for Kyrie. So you would have gotten IT, the Brooklyn pick, Crowder and more and then you could have turned Crowder and IT into more picks and/or young players.

Are you forgetting that IT's career is over, Crowder sucked this year, and that pick ended up not being very good? That would have been a laughable return for Westbrook.

Are you joking? It's a top 8 pick in a loaded draft.

Lol. The consensus (and correct) opinion is that the Cavs got crushed in that trade. And that was just for Kyrie who is clearly not nearly as good as Wesbrook. And isn't playing.

[Revived]

Are you forgetting that IT's career is over, Crowder sucked this year, and that pick ended up not being very good? That would have been a laughable return for Westbrook.

Are you joking? It's a top 8 pick in a loaded draft.

Lol. The consensus (and correct) opinion is that the Cavs got crushed in that trade. And that was just for Kyrie who is clearly not nearly as good as Wesbrook. And isn't playing.

No it’s not. Everyone knew IT and Crowder were bonuses and that the trade was basically BKY pick for Kyrie as Dan Gilbert coveted the pick so much as he wanted a top 10 pick.

Kyrie is injured goods who his own GM has said will be dealing with knee issues his whole career.

They gave up a potential very nice prospect in Mikal Bridges, Trae Young etc for that.

It’s a very good trade from CLE prospective.

[Rocketsbaby]

Are you joking? It's a top 8 pick in a loaded draft.

Lol. The consensus (and correct) opinion is that the Cavs got crushed in that trade. And that was just for Kyrie who is clearly not nearly as good as Wesbrook. And isn't playing.

No it’s not. Everyone knew IT and Crowder were bonuses and that the trade was basically BKY pick for Kyrie as Dan Gilbert coveted the pick so much as he wanted a top 10 pick.

Kyrie is injured goods who his own GM has said will be dealing with knee issues his whole career.

They gave up a potential very nice prospect in Mikal Bridges, Trae Young etc for that.

It’s a very good trade from CLE prospective.

Kyrie is a top 50-75 player in this league. Crowder sucked this year. IT is a total washout. That pick was expected to be top 5 and very probably top 3 and it's now worth dramatically less.

Those guys are mediocre prospects at best who may never even develop into ROTATION players in this league.


LOL at giving up Westbrook who is inarguably a top 15-20 player in the entire NBA for a late lotto pick. You've lost it

[RalphSampsonJr]

Does a team even want to invest in Russ though?

I dont think a team like the Spurs would go near him.
Dude just seems too unwilling to change his style of play.