11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 35 PTS (13-22 FG, 5-11 3P), 7 REB, 5 AST
8
57%
Jerami Grant | 15 PTS (6-9 FG, 3-4 3P)
1
7%
Steven Adams | 19 PTS (9-13 FG), 7 REB, 5 AST, 2 STL
2
14%
Dennis Schroder | 15 PTS (5-10 FG, 3-5 3P), 12 AST
1
7%
Hamidou Diallo | 11 PTS (5-9 FG)
2
14%
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#21 » by Pillendreher » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:01 am

spearsy23 wrote:I don't understand any ill will toward Kanter. He literally didn't do anything wrong.
It can be argued that his inability to stay on the court cost us a title in 2016.

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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#22 » by RalphSampsonJr » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:31 am

Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I don't understand any ill will toward Kanter. He literally didn't do anything wrong.
It can be argued thatgl his inability to stay on the court cost us a title in 2016.

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Yep. Loved the guy off the court. Hated the guy on it. THE most frustrating player ro watch.. well until Melo put on thunder blue
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#23 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:16 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I don't understand any ill will toward Kanter. He literally didn't do anything wrong.


He punched a seat :lol:
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#24 » by spearsy23 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:02 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I don't understand any ill will toward Kanter. He literally didn't do anything wrong.
It can be argued that his inability to stay on the court cost us a title in 2016.

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And it can be argued that Andre Roberson's inability to drop 20 per game on 40% 3 point shooting did the same. Enes worked, he has transformed his body and put in the time and effort, it's pointless to blame the guy for being bad at part of the game when he tries to improve.
This isn't Reggie crapping on his teammates, Mitch smoking weed and whining all day, or even Dion launching the ball at the basket from any angle he wanted.

And it's not even like this is unique to enes, Golden State played/plays most bigs off the court.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#25 » by spearsy23 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:05 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I don't understand any ill will toward Kanter. He literally didn't do anything wrong.



I don't think it is ill will not to want Aldrich, err, Kanter back in OKC in a significant role. It is wanting them to have good players.

Calling him an insufferable prick seems like ill will to me, but what do I know?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#26 » by Pillendreher » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:27 pm

spearsy23 wrote:And it can be argued that Andre Roberson's inability to drop 20 per game on 40% 3 point shooting did the same.


No, it can not. That is such a lazy argument. This team has shown that it can be elite with Andre Roberson on the floor. On BOTH ends of the floor. Meanwhile, it is impossible to field a good defense with Enes Kanter on the floor. It has never been done and it will never be done. And while we're at it: Roberson was making 1/16th of what Kanter was making back in 15/16. The Thunder were spending more than 20 % of their total payroll on Kanter that season. We're not talking about Kyle Korver getting the MLE here.

spearsy23 wrote:Enes worked, he has transformed his body and put in the time and effort, it's pointless to blame the guy for being bad at part of the game when he tries to improve.


You don't get trophies for "trying" in the NBA. He is still one of the worst at it and is still tanking his team's defense. Always has, always will be.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#27 » by spearsy23 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:32 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:And it can be argued that Andre Roberson's inability to drop 20 per game on 40% 3 point shooting did the same.


No, it can not. That is such a lazy argument. This team has shown that it can be elite with Andre Roberson on the floor. On BOTH ends of the floor. Meanwhile, it is impossible to field a good defense with Enes Kanter on the floor. It has never been done and it will never be done. And while we're at it: Roberson was making 1/16th of what Kanter was making back in 15/16. The Thunder were spending more than 20 % of their total payroll on Kanter that season. We're not talking about Kyle Korver getting the MLE here.

How is any of that relevant? You're arguing that our backup center's inability to stay on the floor against a historically great team that generally ran starting centers off the court is
A) somehow his fault
B) somehow the reason we couldn't beat them.


That's just as ridiculous as blaming robes for not being Klay offensively, or Dion for not being prime ginobili. When players are putting in the effort but are bad at something that isn't a failing on them as a person. If they aren't put in positions to succeed that's an organizational failing. And enes not being able to play against that Golden State team is something that should've (and was) been expected.

spearsy23 wrote:Enes worked, he has transformed his body and put in the time and effort, it's pointless to blame the guy for being bad at part of the game when he tries to improve.


You don't get trophies for "trying" in the NBA. He is still one of the worst at it and is still tanking his team's defense. Always has, always will be.

And this warrants calling him an insufferable prick? Perkins was awful offensively, robes is dreadful at shooting, singler was horrible at basketball. None of that gives reason to attack then on a personal level.
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Post#28 » by Pillendreher » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:54 pm

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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#29 » by Pillendreher » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:55 pm

spearsy23 wrote:That's just as ridiculous as blaming robes for not being Klay offensively, or Dion for not being prime ginobili.


No, it's not. But I'm not going to waste any more time on this. I've made my stance on this clear. I'm glad he's off the Thunder and I'll leave it at that.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#30 » by Old Man Game » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:25 pm

Anyone who dedicated himself to trolling Durant as much as Enes has will always have a place at my dinner table. That said, I'm 100% glad he's not actually on the team anymore. Dude should probably be playing in Europe or even China.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#32 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:21 am

I like the uniforms. Fight me.
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Post#33 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:35 am

Knrstz wrote:I like the uniforms. Fight me.

I do too. These are the best uniforms are the best in OKC history. I know that's saying absolutely nothing since we may have the worst logo and color scheme combo in the NBA, but these uniforms are awesome in my opinion.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#34 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:36 am

As good as Steven Adams has been, he looks better tonight. I wonder why...
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Post#36 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:37 am

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Knrstz wrote:I like the uniforms. Fight me.

I do too. These are the best uniforms are the best in OKC history. I know that's saying absolutely nothing since we may have the worst logo and color scheme combo in the NBA, but these uniforms are awesome in my opinion.

I don’t mind our color scheme but our logo sucks.
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Post#37 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:37 am

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He’s been trolling him all night. Nice little belly slaps after he scores a basket.
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Post#38 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:41 am

I know he made it, but I've already reached my limit of Raymond Felton 18-23 foot pullups over a defender.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#39 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:46 am

Since the Charlotte game Abrines has sucked. Why this team can’t get Diallo more lobs is beyond me? He cuts to the basket all of the time and he can outjump anyone on the floor.
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Re: 11/14 | G14: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#40 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:53 am

I love Diallo's first step and his aggressiveness and willingness to attack the basket. I'm still on the fence in the Ferguson vs. Diallo debate, but I do know Diallo already can attack the basket and score at the basket in a way Ferguson can only dream of right now.
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