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2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:10 pm
by NYG
1. Who are your free agents and what percentage would you put on them re-signing?

2. What are your team needs and the overall short term goals of the team?

3. Is there any reason your coach may not be in place next year?

4. Who are you willing to trade?

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:45 pm
by Dadouv47
NYG wrote:1. Who are your free agents and what percentage would you put on them re-signing?

2. What are your team needs and the overall short term goals of the team?

3. Is there any reason your coach may not be in place next year?

4. Who are you willing to trade?


It's a bit early to answer some of those questions

1. Noel (20%, think he can get more money elsewhere)
Felton (1%, probably going to retire?)
2pat (60% player option)

2. We need a SG and probably back up C (question 4).

3. If we lose in the first round yes. Other than that, I don't think so. I don't like Billy Donovan but coaching staff is doing a nice job this year.

4. Package around Schroeder and Ferguson (+ picks) for Jrue Holiday or Beal

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:15 pm
by SecondTake
Dadouv47 wrote:
NYG wrote:1. Who are your free agents and what percentage would you put on them re-signing?

2. What are your team needs and the overall short term goals of the team?

3. Is there any reason your coach may not be in place next year?

4. Who are you willing to trade?


It's a bit early to answer some of those questions

1. Noel (20%, think he can get more money elsewhere)
Felton (1%, probably going to retire?)
2pat (60% player option)

2. We need a SG and probably back up C (question 4).

3. If we lose in the first round yes. Other than that, I don't think so. I don't like Billy Donovan but coaching staff is doing a nice job this year.

4. Package around Schroeder and Ferguson (+ picks) for Jrue Holiday or Beal


HELL NO. Ferg isn't being traded, he's way too good.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:11 am
by ThunderBolt
I think our offseason goals depend on playoff performance.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:30 am
by Pillendreher
ThunderBolt wrote:I think our offseason goals depend on playoff performance.
I hope they bring everybody back after they win the 2019 Finals.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:25 pm
by spearsy23
Pillendreher wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I think our offseason goals depend on playoff performance.
I hope they bring everybody back after they win the 2019 Finals.

I hope Klay Thompson signs on a vet minimum after we win the title.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:11 pm
by Pillendreher
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I think our offseason goals depend on playoff performance.
I hope they bring everybody back after they win the 2019 Finals.

I hope Klay Thompson signs on a vet minimum after we win the title.

Watch on YouTube

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:54 pm
by spearsy23
Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:I hope they bring everybody back after they win the 2019 Finals.

I hope Klay Thompson signs on a vet minimum after we win the title.

Still can't believe we traded for them 25 years after their prime.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:29 am
by Dn4sty
I think OKC will set up for one more pretty decent trade involving Schroder going somewhere.

I also think that if KD ends up in NY, then OKC will be willing for one big shot at the finals (thus leading to them using the Melo TPE (10.8 million)

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:55 pm
by Andre Roberstan
NYG wrote:1. Who are your free agents and what percentage would you put on them re-signing?

2. What are your team needs and the overall short term goals of the team?

3. Is there any reason your coach may not be in place next year?

4. Who are you willing to trade?


1:
Noel (20%, he'll get more money elsewhere)
Pat Pat (player option, he'll take it)
Felton (50%, he's still got a little left in the tank and I think he'll want to go somewhere he can play, but he might stick around. He likes the guys.)

2:
Shooting, always. Another backup big since Pat Pat's fallen off a cliff.

3:
Nope, they re-signed him for the long term.

4:
Everyone not named Russ, PG or possibly Adams if it improves the team. But salary-wise they can't afford to get much more top-heavy than they are.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:08 pm
by ThunderBolt
Andre Roberstan wrote:
NYG wrote:1. Who are your free agents and what percentage would you put on them re-signing?

2. What are your team needs and the overall short term goals of the team?

3. Is there any reason your coach may not be in place next year?

4. Who are you willing to trade?


1:
Noel (20%, he'll get more money elsewhere)
Pat Pat (player option, he'll take it)
Felton (50%, he's still got a little left in the tank and I think he'll want to go somewhere he can play, but he might stick around. He likes the guys.)

2:
Shooting, always. Another backup big since Pat Pat's fallen off a cliff.

3:
Nope, they re-signed him for the long term.

4:
Everyone not named Russ, PG or possibly Adams if it improves the team. But salary-wise they can't afford to get much more top-heavy than they are.



For culture purposes I can understand holding on to russ. For winning purposes I would move russ after this year.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:12 pm
by Andre Roberstan
ThunderBolt wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
NYG wrote:1. Who are your free agents and what percentage would you put on them re-signing?

2. What are your team needs and the overall short term goals of the team?

3. Is there any reason your coach may not be in place next year?

4. Who are you willing to trade?


1:
Noel (20%, he'll get more money elsewhere)
Pat Pat (player option, he'll take it)
Felton (50%, he's still got a little left in the tank and I think he'll want to go somewhere he can play, but he might stick around. He likes the guys.)

2:
Shooting, always. Another backup big since Pat Pat's fallen off a cliff.

3:
Nope, they re-signed him for the long term.

4:
Everyone not named Russ, PG or possibly Adams if it improves the team. But salary-wise they can't afford to get much more top-heavy than they are.



For culture purposes I can understand holding on to russ. For winning purposes I would move russ after this year.


The "should Russ be traded" discussion is an interesting one. But I don't think it's happening.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:17 pm
by ThunderBolt
Andre Roberstan wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
1:
Noel (20%, he'll get more money elsewhere)
Pat Pat (player option, he'll take it)
Felton (50%, he's still got a little left in the tank and I think he'll want to go somewhere he can play, but he might stick around. He likes the guys.)

2:
Shooting, always. Another backup big since Pat Pat's fallen off a cliff.

3:
Nope, they re-signed him for the long term.

4:
Everyone not named Russ, PG or possibly Adams if it improves the team. But salary-wise they can't afford to get much more top-heavy than they are.



For culture purposes I can understand holding on to russ. For winning purposes I would move russ after this year.


The "should Russ be traded" discussion is an interesting one. But I don't think it's happening.


Oh I agree completely. Presti wants guys like Russ, collison and others to be like Duncan and Manu. He's looking to build a culture where players stay and go down in franchise history. I think there is some merit to that. The reality is that keeping Russ may hurt us on the court but trading him could hurt presti's sustainability model. Unless Russ requests a trade, I don't think it happens.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:29 pm
by Andre Roberstan
ThunderBolt wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:

For culture purposes I can understand holding on to russ. For winning purposes I would move russ after this year.


The "should Russ be traded" discussion is an interesting one. But I don't think it's happening.


Oh I agree completely. Presti wants guys like Russ, collison and others to be like Duncan and Manu. He's looking to build a culture where players stay and go down in franchise history. I think there is some merit to that. The reality is that keeping Russ may hurt us on the court but trading him could hurt presti's sustainability model. Unless Russ requests a trade, I don't think it happens.


Could also hurt you in other ways. Lowry's a pro's pro, but there's some real bad blood between him and Ujiri right now apparently over the DeRozan situation. Considering how close some of the guys on the team are. particularly Russ and PG, it's worth noting.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:59 pm
by ThunderBolt
Andre Roberstan wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
The "should Russ be traded" discussion is an interesting one. But I don't think it's happening.


Oh I agree completely. Presti wants guys like Russ, collison and others to be like Duncan and Manu. He's looking to build a culture where players stay and go down in franchise history. I think there is some merit to that. The reality is that keeping Russ may hurt us on the court but trading him could hurt presti's sustainability model. Unless Russ requests a trade, I don't think it happens.


Could also hurt you in other ways. Lowry's a pro's pro, but there's some real bad blood between him and Ujiri right now apparently over the DeRozan situation. Considering how close some of the guys on the team are. particularly Russ and PG, it's worth noting.


The only scenario I see it happening is if ownership says they are done spending. Presti sits he and George down and explains the situation and let’s them decide. I think it would have to come from Russ himself.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:04 pm
by Balkman32
Whoa - hmmm The THUNDER ARE NOT TRADING RUSS. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE.

-P Pat is 50/50 on opting in. WE will see how he does in the playoff.
-Noel is 50/50 as well. I don't know if he can get the mid level. The Thunder can only offer him the taypayers mid level, I don't know if I would offer him that just based on the fact that he can only play center and there are other centers out on the market. The Thunder should plan to use the tax payers mid level exception. I just don't know if you use it on a center.
-Felton If he wants back in at the minimum I have no issue with it. He is a coach that can still play. He was draining threes last night.

The Thunder don't have many needs. Getting Roberson back should help out. Getting another year under Diallo's belt is huge. The Thunder will need to replace the backup C and PF if Noel and Patterson go somewhere else. They should also figure out what the plan is for Roberson. Is Dre the new backup 2/, 3. or 4 or all, or none?

No- the head coach should not be fired.

Willing to trade everyone who's not in the starting lineup & Diallo. Which is Schroder, Roberson & Nader. But, I am not chomping at the bit to deal either Schroder or Roberson. I think both guys add value to this team and if you can bring them off the bench they are jsut as valuable as Livingston and Iguodala in Oakland.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:59 am
by Kizz Fastfists
Balkman32 wrote:Whoa - hmmm The THUNDER ARE NOT TRADING RUSS. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE.


This is true. Even if they lose in the first round and ownership demands they get out of the tax and have to trade PG to do it they will keep Russ. Russ will be in OKC for his career unless he either demands to be traded or leaves after this contract to chase a ring as his career winds down.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:50 am
by Dn4sty
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Whoa - hmmm The THUNDER ARE NOT TRADING RUSS. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE.


This is true. Even if they lose in the first round and ownership demands they get out of the tax and have to trade PG to do it they will keep Russ. Russ will be in OKC for his career unless he either demands to be traded or leaves after this contract to chase a ring as his career winds down.



Please.....stop....

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:40 am
by ThunderBolt
Balkman32 wrote:Whoa - hmmm The THUNDER ARE NOT TRADING RUSS. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE.

Please do yell at the clouds and read what was said. Ownership isn’t going to spend tens of millions in luxury tax year after year. At some point business decisions have to be made about the viability of building around russ moving forward. That either means russ is moved or the supporting cast is moved for cheaper(likely worse) options. It’s naive it think because russ loves OKC and OKC loves russ that everything will continue happily ever after. I just said in the previous post that I think russ stays here until he retires unless he wants to leave. He’ll probably play as many minutes as he wants and his body allows and will continue to be among the league leaders in fga.

Re: 2019 Off-Season Questions

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:44 pm
by Balkman32
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:Whoa - hmmm The THUNDER ARE NOT TRADING RUSS. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE.


This is true. Even if they lose in the first round and ownership demands they get out of the tax and have to trade PG to do it they will keep Russ. Russ will be in OKC for his career unless he either demands to be traded or leaves after this contract to chase a ring as his career winds down.


What? The only reason why everyone thinking ownership is cheap because they wouldn't go into the tax for Harden. It was a mistake. But, it was a calculated play because they planned to pay this tax now. Going into the lux tax for multiple years is expensive, that's why the Rockets just dipped under it. The Thunder are not trading Russ and they ain't dealing PG. They probably won't deal Adams because he is the new Mr. Thunder, a walking example as to how a Thunder basketball player should handle themselves.

OKC is gonna be a problem in the playoffs this year. They have 7 guys that can play at a high level. I can't wait till the playoffs.