What would you trade Adams for?

[JustOneFix]

What would you trade Adams for this offseason?

I would do next deals;

Blake Griffin (offensive game on another level comparing to Adams. Resign Noel and make him a starting center)
Nikola Vucevic (doubt Magic would do that)
Bradley Beal (maybe Adams + Ferguson)
Luis Williams + Ivica Zubac (maybe Clippers would go for that if they don't sign any big fa this offseason)
Montrezl Herrel for Adams straight up
Jonas Valenciunas + Justin Holiday for Adams and something

Just throwing some ideas outhere....

[Dadouv47]

What would you trade Adams for this offseason?

I would do next deals;

Blake Griffin (offensive game on another level comparing to Adams. Resign Noel and make him a starting center)
Nikola Vucevic (doubt Magic would do that)
Bradley Beal (maybe Adams + Ferguson)
Luis Williams + Ivica Zubac (maybe Clippers would go for that if they don't sign any big fa this offseason)
Montrezl Herrel for Adams straight up
Jonas Valenciunas + Justin Holiday for Adams and something

Just throwing some ideas outhere....

You can't do that (salary wise). Terrible trades also

I would look to trade Adams and assets for Beal or Jrue (would do Adams+Ferguson for Beal)

Noel+Griffin would be beyond terrible. I love both players but they are too slow, Griffin needs the ball in his hands and is massively overpaid. The fit is really bad.

[slick_watts]

blake for adams would be great, but they would need to acquire a starting center that is not nerlens noel for that to work. detroit wouldn't do it. vucevic is a free agent. beal is a pipe dream. adams is better than val imo.

[RalphSampsonJr]

If okc are to do it they should want to not take as much money back. Cant think of one team in the league that would wanna take on his contract

[Dadouv47]

If okc are to do it they should want to not take as much money back. Cant think of one team in the league that would wanna take on his contract

Adams is well respected around the league and it's not like he's on a 5 years deal anymore. He's a top 10 Center in this league and the other good Centers are all under contracts. 2 years of Adams's contract can be really valuable for some teams. Not saying you can get some crazy good value but his value is way higher than most trades proposals OP made.

[Kizz Fastfists]

What would you trade Adams for this offseason?

I would do next deals;

Blake Griffin (offensive game on another level comparing to Adams. Resign Noel and make him a starting center)
Nikola Vucevic (doubt Magic would do that)
Bradley Beal (maybe Adams + Ferguson)
Luis Williams + Ivica Zubac (maybe Clippers would go for that if they don't sign any big fa this offseason)
Montrezl Herrel for Adams straight up
Jonas Valenciunas + Justin Holiday for Adams and something

Just throwing some ideas outhere....

Drummond and Adams both starting for Detroit? Not a chance they even pick up the phone on Adams for Blake. PG for Blake would probably get their attention though. That doesn't include the issue of only being able to offer Noel the taxpayer's MLE and he will probably get more than that this off-season.


Vucevic is a FA and Orlando would have already traded him if they didn't plan on resigning him.

OKC doesn't have enough to get Beal. If I were Washington I wouldn't even do Beal for PG and it isn't because Beal is better, but because at 25 they have time to rebuild around Beal and they wouldn't have that time with PG. Wall is likely out next season. They have moved Porter. They are rebuilding and OKC doesn't have assets to put a rebuilding package out there for Washington.

Williams and Zubac, really? Both teams refuse. It makes OKC worse and LAC isn't going to tie up long-term money in Adams when they are looking to chase max FAs. The same applies to Harrell.

Holiday is a FA. Valanciunas has a player option. Memphis is rebuilding. That "something" would have to be along the lines of Diallo and Ferguson or a future pick that Memphis thinks has a chance to be in the lottery. It also doesn't make OKC better.

The problem with Adams in OKC isn't Adams. The problem is Donovan. OKC has arguably the best backup center in the NBA, but Adams is playing a career high in minutes and plays a style where he breaks down late EVERY year. So instead of limiting him and letting him stay fresh for the playoffs the incompetent Donovan is wearing him down so he'll have nothing in the tank in the playoffs.

[Dadouv47]

I compare very often about what Presti did with Adams versus what Morey did with Capela. I believe Adams is a better player but Capela contract is so much better. Presti overpaid a bit while Morey was able to underpay (not because Capela deserves more money but mainly because he's such a great fit in Houston)

[ThunderBolt]

I compare very often about what Presti did with Adams versus what Morey did with Capela. I believe Adams is a better player but Capela contract is so much better. Presti overpaid a bit while Morey was able to underpay (not because Capela deserves more money but mainly because he's such a great fit in Houston)

Timing played a key factor in both contracts. If presti had waited on Adams until after the season then his contract might have been closer to Capela’s. There really isn’t any need to give a max to a RFA that early unless they are a franchise talent.

[Dadouv47]

What would you trade Adams for this offseason?

I would do next deals;

Blake Griffin (offensive game on another level comparing to Adams. Resign Noel and make him a starting center)
Nikola Vucevic (doubt Magic would do that)
Bradley Beal (maybe Adams + Ferguson)
Luis Williams + Ivica Zubac (maybe Clippers would go for that if they don't sign any big fa this offseason)
Montrezl Herrel for Adams straight up
Jonas Valenciunas + Justin Holiday for Adams and something

Just throwing some ideas outhere....

Drummond and Adams both starting for Detroit? Not a chance they even pick up the phone on Adams for Blake. PG for Blake would probably get their attention though. That doesn't include the issue of only being able to offer Noel the taxpayer's MLE and he will probably get more than that this off-season.


Vucevic is a FA and Orlando would have already traded him if they didn't plan on resigning him.

OKC doesn't have enough to get Beal. If I were Washington I wouldn't even do Beal for PG and it isn't because Beal is better, but because at 25 they have time to rebuild around Beal and they wouldn't have that time with PG. Wall is likely out next season. They have moved Porter. They are rebuilding and OKC doesn't have assets to put a rebuilding package out there for Washington.

Williams and Zubac, really? Both teams refuse. It makes OKC worse and LAC isn't going to tie up long-term money in Adams when they are looking to chase max FAs. The same applies to Harrell.

Holiday is a FA. Valanciunas has a player option. Memphis is rebuilding. That "something" would have to be along the lines of Diallo and Ferguson or a future pick that Memphis thinks has a chance to be in the lottery. It also doesn't make OKC better.

The problem with Adams in OKC isn't Adams. The problem is Donovan. OKC has arguably the best backup center in the NBA, but Adams is playing a career high in minutes and plays a style where he breaks down late EVERY year. So instead of limiting him and letting him stay fresh for the playoffs the incompetent Donovan is wearing him down so he'll have nothing in the tank in the playoffs.

Blake griffin will earn 38 millions/year with 33 years old. One of the worst contract in the NBA (Detroit gambled and the Clippers made such a great trade). You need to give a lot to get rid of his contract. We already have enough overpaid players.

The only reason for me to move Adams would be to spend a lot of money on a wing and get a cheap (worse) Center. That's what some great teams are doing in today's NBA.

[Pillendreher]

Adams on a different team that doesn't just use him as a body to move opposing players around and do things certain leaderes are too lazy to do would be interesting for sure.

[Dadouv47]

I compare very often about what Presti did with Adams versus what Morey did with Capela. I believe Adams is a better player but Capela contract is so much better. Presti overpaid a bit while Morey was able to underpay (not because Capela deserves more money but mainly because he's such a great fit in Houston)

Timing played a key factor in both contracts. If presti had waited on Adams until after the season then his contract might have been closer to Capela’s. There really isn’t any need to give a max to a RFA that early unless they are a franchise talent.

Sure. Presti extending Oladipo and Adams so early was a mistake. I'm pretty sure we would have kept Adams for +/- 4 millions less/year

[RalphSampsonJr]

I compare very often about what Presti did with Adams versus what Morey did with Capela. I believe Adams is a better player but Capela contract is so much better. Presti overpaid a bit while Morey was able to underpay (not because Capela deserves more money but mainly because he's such a great fit in Houston)

Totally different situations though. If Capela was a FA the same year as Adams he would ve getting the same exact money

[RalphSampsonJr]

Adams on a different team that doesn't just use him as a body to move opposing players around and do things certain leaderes are too lazy to do would be interesting for sure.

Yep. He would be much better than he is right now if hed been drafted by another team with a coach with some creativity

[Dadouv47]

Adams on a different team that doesn't just use him as a body to move opposing players around and do things certain leaderes are too lazy to do would be interesting for sure.

Yep. He would be much better than he is right now if hed been drafted by another team with a coach with some creativity

uh? We are still one of the best teams at developing players. I only have the spurs as a lock for a better team for young prospects.

I don't like our coach but Ferguson is making an huge improvement and so does Grant since he came in OKC.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Blake griffin will earn 38 millions/year with 33 years old. One of the worst contract in the NBA (Detroit gambled and the Clippers made such a great trade). You need to give a lot to get rid of his contract. We already have enough overpaid players.

The only reason for me to move Adams would be to spend a lot of money on a wing and get a cheap (worse) Center. That's what some great teams are doing in today's NBA.

Blake is only one year older than PG. Both are having the best seasons of their careers. It isn't about what you want it is about what Detroit would take. Detroit is not moving Blake to pair Adams and Drummond. Just to suggest it shows that you are completely ignoring the trade outside of a very narrow view of what you want for OKC. It takes two to make a trade. Detroit is not trading Blake for anything OKC could offer outside of PG. That doesn't mean OKC should consider it, but that would be the Detroit view. When formulating a trade idea you need to ask yourself why BOTH teams would do it not just look at how OKC can add the players you want while giving away the players you view as worthless. It would be like trying to a nickel for a Ferrari. Sure, you'd like to do that, but they guy with the Ferrari isn't interested.

[Dadouv47]

Blake griffin will earn 38 millions/year with 33 years old. One of the worst contract in the NBA (Detroit gambled and the Clippers made such a great trade). You need to give a lot to get rid of his contract. We already have enough overpaid players.

The only reason for me to move Adams would be to spend a lot of money on a wing and get a cheap (worse) Center. That's what some great teams are doing in today's NBA.

Blake is only one year older than PG. Both are having the best seasons of their careers. It isn't about what you want it is about what Detroit would take. Detroit is not moving Blake to pair Adams and Drummond. Just to suggest it shows that you are completely ignoring the trade outside of a very narrow view of what you want for OKC. It takes two to make a trade. Detroit is not trading Blake for anything OKC could offer outside of PG. That doesn't mean OKC should consider it, but that would be the Detroit view. When formulating a trade idea you need to ask yourself why BOTH teams would do it not just look at how OKC can add the players you want while giving away the players you view as worthless. It would be like trying to a nickel for a Ferrari. Sure, you'd like to do that, but they guy with the Ferrari isn't interested.

I wasn't the one to suggest that trade. Relax man

[RalphSampsonJr]

Adams on a different team that doesn't just use him as a body to move opposing players around and do things certain leaderes are too lazy to do would be interesting for sure.

Yep. He would be much better than he is right now if hed been drafted by another team with a coach with some creativity

uh? We are still one of the best teams at developing players. I only have the spurs as a lock for a better team for young prospects.

I don't like our coach but Ferguson is making an huge improvement and so does Grant since he came in OKC.

OKC is one of the best teams at developing talent?!

Tferg had a nice run for two months but has hit a wall.

Adams has developed into nothing but a rebounding screener who occasionally gets to post up (even though he has a high rate of success in those)

Robes has never developed a shot after 5 years.

Harden was used as a 6th man until given the right opportunity now hes a top 3 player.

KD and Russ were home run picks. would of been successful anywhere.

Ill give you Grant. thats about it

[Pillendreher]

Yep. He would be much better than he is right now if hed been drafted by another team with a coach with some creativity

uh? We are still one of the best teams at developing players. I only have the spurs as a lock for a better team for young prospects.

I don't like our coach but Ferguson is making an huge improvement and so does Grant since he came in OKC.

OKC is one of the best teams at developing talent?!

Tferg had a nice run for two months but has hit a wall.

Adams has developed into nothing but a rebounding screener who occasionally gets to post up (even though he has a high rate of success in those)

Robes has never developed a shot after 5 years.

Harden was used as a 6th man until given the right opportunity now hes a top 3 player.

KD and Russ were home run picks. would of been successful anywhere.

Ill give you Grant. thats about it

I think they have a weird tendency of confining their non-star-talents to their roles. As soon as a guy finds "his spot" within the team, they reduce him to said role. Adams is just a guy that has to clean up for his teammates, give them another shot after they brick it the first time and then shove defenders out of the way. It's in some ways what roleplayers do, but we should actually look for him to improve because that would help the team. We don't even run the PnR with him regularly anymore: If you adjust his numbers for pace, he's averaging the fewest possessions per game finished as the PnR rollman over the last four seasons (the numbers don't go further back than that). That's not good.

[RalphSampsonJr]

uh? We are still one of the best teams at developing players. I only have the spurs as a lock for a better team for young prospects.

I don't like our coach but Ferguson is making an huge improvement and so does Grant since he came in OKC.

OKC is one of the best teams at developing talent?!

Tferg had a nice run for two months but has hit a wall.

Adams has developed into nothing but a rebounding screener who occasionally gets to post up (even though he has a high rate of success in those)

Robes has never developed a shot after 5 years.

Harden was used as a 6th man until given the right opportunity now hes a top 3 player.

KD and Russ were home run picks. would of been successful anywhere.

Ill give you Grant. thats about it

I think they have a weird tendency of confining their non-star-talents to their roles. As soon as a guy finds "his spot" within the team, they reduce him to said role. Adams is just a guy that has to clean up for his teammates, give them another shot after they brick it the first time and then shove defenders out of the way. It's in some ways what roleplayers do, but we should actually look for him to improve because that would help the team. We don't even run the PnR with him regularly anymore: If you adjust his numbers for pace, he's averaging the fewest possessions per game finished as the PnR rollman over the last four seasons (the numbers don't go further back than that). That's not good.

I see he gets less shot attempts than Grant now.
Not sure why the pnr has dissapeared. I know Russ hasnt commanded much respect from deep but PG Grant and Tferg have shown they can hit the long ball of the paint shouldnt be as packed as it was years prior when the pnr was the center piece of the offense

[Dadouv47]

Yep. He would be much better than he is right now if hed been drafted by another team with a coach with some creativity

uh? We are still one of the best teams at developing players. I only have the spurs as a lock for a better team for young prospects.

I don't like our coach but Ferguson is making an huge improvement and so does Grant since he came in OKC.

OKC is one of the best teams at developing talent?!

Tferg had a nice run for two months but has hit a wall.

Adams has developed into nothing but a rebounding screener who occasionally gets to post up (even though he has a high rate of success in those)

Robes has never developed a shot after 5 years.

Harden was used as a 6th man until given the right opportunity now hes a top 3 player.

KD and Russ were home run picks. would of been successful anywhere.

Ill give you Grant. thats about it

Ibaka? Reggie Jackson? Both drafted at 24th pick and peaked in OKC (Reggie was young when he left but couldn't develop more like he thought he would)

Robes can't shoot but he's still an elite defender and was a key player for our team

Adams is a top 10 C and improved year after year despite his flaws

Ferguson is struggling lately but he improved a lot in one year (I was pretty low on him)

It's more difficult to develop young players when you don't have high draft picks. The only relatively high in last 5 years were Steven Adams and Cameron Payne (who played very well in the beginning then got injury after injury)

Not saying it's perfect but would love to have example (except spurs) of a team that developed better young players last 10 years.