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Post#21 » by blanko » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:47 pm

Look paul george gave more to okc than dura nt , he got you record setting returns. What did kd do? Liked to russ and dipped out.

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Post#22 » by slick_watts » Mon Jul 8, 2019 6:27 pm

thank you paul george, for setting sam presti on the path that should have been taken from the beginning. without your betrayal, we'd be clawing for a 7th seed with a 70 million tax bill. now our future is a blank page with endless possibilities.
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Post#23 » by NoZoLakers » Tue Jul 9, 2019 5:27 pm

picks on paper with the word "unprotected" sounds good in essence but considering who those 1st come from, all will most likely range between teens-late picks (3 being from LAC within PG/KL era, while the other 2 comes from Mia Butler era where you guys also might be sending Russ to). Yea PG gave you guys ALOT more than KD but dude did you guys dirty none the less.
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Post#24 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Jul 9, 2019 5:42 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:picks on paper with the word "unprotected" sounds good in essence but considering who those 1st come from, all will most likely range between teens-late picks (3 being from LAC within PG/KL era, while the other 2 comes from Mia Butler era where you guys also might be sending Russ to). Yea PG gave you guys ALOT more than KD but dude did you guys dirty none the less.

It seems to be the popular consensus among a lot of the media right now to devalue picks. I tend to disagree with that. Beyond two years, we really have no idea what any teams picks are worth. If I were a clippers fan do you know what my biggest fear would be? The health of Kawhi and George. Kawhi's issues are well documented George has had four surgeries in the last two offseasons. He's already suffered a career altering injury.

The picks by themselves might not enough to build a good team but they can be traded to move up in the draft or for other players that become available. All good players were just a pick at one time. Before the George trade our shelf life had expired and we've got tons of options moving forward. If we are contended to make 2-3 picks a year in the late teens and twenties, we'll probably wallow in mediocrity. I don't think that's what we'll do though. Also, there's a decent possibility that Shai develops into a really good player. If he hadn't been included in the deal I'm much less optimistic about a quicker rebuild.
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Post#25 » by NoZoLakers » Tue Jul 9, 2019 5:52 pm

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NoZoLakers wrote:picks on paper with the word "unprotected" sounds good in essence but considering who those 1st come from, all will most likely range between teens-late picks (3 being from LAC within PG/KL era, while the other 2 comes from Mia Butler era where you guys also might be sending Russ to). Yea PG gave you guys ALOT more than KD but dude did you guys dirty none the less.

It seems to be the popular consensus among a lot of the media right now to devalue picks. I tend to disagree with that. Beyond two years, we really have no idea what any teams picks are worth. If I were a clippers fan do you know what my biggest fear would be? The health of Kawhi and George. Kawhi's issues are well documented George has had four surgeries in the last two offseasons. He's already suffered a career altering injury.

The picks by themselves might not enough to build a good team but they can be traded to move up in the draft or for other players that become available. All good players were just a pick at one time. Before the George trade our shelf life had expired and we've got tons of options moving forward. If we are contended to make 2-3 picks a year in the late teens and twenties, we'll probably wallow in mediocrity. I don't think that's what we'll do though. Also, there's a decent possibility that Shai develops into a really good player. If he hadn't been included in the deal I'm much less optimistic about a quicker rebuild.

I agree with SGA and yes I understand your take on the picks as far as using them to move up, but the "unprecedented, record setting" mantra from Woj is misleading IMO, quantity doesn't always equal quality. Yea KL has that load management thing but he seems to be getting more healthy while PG broke a leg randomly out of no where but he seems to have recovered from that relatively well, the shoulder thing is just wear and tear
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Post#26 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Jul 9, 2019 6:22 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:
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NoZoLakers wrote:picks on paper with the word "unprotected" sounds good in essence but considering who those 1st come from, all will most likely range between teens-late picks (3 being from LAC within PG/KL era, while the other 2 comes from Mia Butler era where you guys also might be sending Russ to). Yea PG gave you guys ALOT more than KD but dude did you guys dirty none the less.

It seems to be the popular consensus among a lot of the media right now to devalue picks. I tend to disagree with that. Beyond two years, we really have no idea what any teams picks are worth. If I were a clippers fan do you know what my biggest fear would be? The health of Kawhi and George. Kawhi's issues are well documented George has had four surgeries in the last two offseasons. He's already suffered a career altering injury.

The picks by themselves might not enough to build a good team but they can be traded to move up in the draft or for other players that become available. All good players were just a pick at one time. Before the George trade our shelf life had expired and we've got tons of options moving forward. If we are contended to make 2-3 picks a year in the late teens and twenties, we'll probably wallow in mediocrity. I don't think that's what we'll do though. Also, there's a decent possibility that Shai develops into a really good player. If he hadn't been included in the deal I'm much less optimistic about a quicker rebuild.

I agree with SGA and yes I understand your take on the picks as far as using them to move up, but the "unprecedented, record setting" mantra from Woj is misleading IMO, quantity doesn't always equal quality. Yea KL has that load management thing but he seems to be getting more healthy while PG broke a leg randomly out of no where but he seems to have recovered from that relatively well, the shoulder thing is just wear and tear


I look at it like this, you pretty much need a core of 3 guys to have a decent team. Shai is potentially part of our core moving forward. We have the next two years to get the second part of that core with our own pick which could be in the top 5. It doesn't have to be the number one pick to be a really good all star level player. We also have 13 picks to do whatever we can to trade or find the third member. We probably won't end up with Harden, Russ and KD again but if Shai develops to a Mike Conley level player, maybe we find an Oladipo/Beal type player in the draft and through trades, I'm good with that while they are young as Presti finds a real coach, doesn't trade for Dion Waiters 2.0.

I know it's not as simple as it sounds but having Shai can't be understated. Check back in two years. If Shai has tore his achilles, we fail in the draft and Billy is still coaching then I'll probably feel differently.
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Re: Paul George Appreciation Thread 

Post#27 » by spearsy23 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 8:25 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:It seems to be the popular consensus among a lot of the media right now to devalue picks. I tend to disagree with that. Beyond two years, we really have no idea what any teams picks are worth. If I were a clippers fan do you know what my biggest fear would be? The health of Kawhi and George. Kawhi's issues are well documented George has had four surgeries in the last two offseasons. He's already suffered a career altering injury.

The picks by themselves might not enough to build a good team but they can be traded to move up in the draft or for other players that become available. All good players were just a pick at one time. Before the George trade our shelf life had expired and we've got tons of options moving forward. If we are contended to make 2-3 picks a year in the late teens and twenties, we'll probably wallow in mediocrity. I don't think that's what we'll do though. Also, there's a decent possibility that Shai develops into a really good player. If he hadn't been included in the deal I'm much less optimistic about a quicker rebuild.

I agree with SGA and yes I understand your take on the picks as far as using them to move up, but the "unprecedented, record setting" mantra from Woj is misleading IMO, quantity doesn't always equal quality. Yea KL has that load management thing but he seems to be getting more healthy while PG broke a leg randomly out of no where but he seems to have recovered from that relatively well, the shoulder thing is just wear and tear


I look at it like this, you pretty much need a core of 3 guys to have a decent team. Shai is potentially part of our core moving forward. We have the next two years to get the second part of that core with our own pick which could be in the top 5. It doesn't have to be the number one pick to be a really good all star level player. We also have 13 picks to do whatever we can to trade or find the third member. We probably won't end up with Harden, Russ and KD again but if Shai develops to a Mike Conley level player, maybe we find an Oladipo/Beal type player in the draft and through trades, I'm good with that while they are young as Presti finds a real coach, doesn't trade for Dion Waiters 2.0.

I know it's not as simple as it sounds but having Shai can't be understated. Check back in two years. If Shai has tore his achilles, we fail in the draft and Billy is still coaching then I'll probably feel differently.

Also, isn't the farthest of those picks like 6 years out? There's a terrific chance that's a high lotto pick. Most guys aren't LeBron, humming along at mvp level into their mid thirties.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Paul George Appreciation Thread 

Post#28 » by Drygon » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:01 am

blanko wrote:Look paul george gave more to okc than dura nt , he got you record setting returns. What did kd do? Liked to russ and dipped out.

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The Thunder were fortunate that the Clippers were leveraged into having to do whatever it took to get a 2nd star to attract Kawhi.

Anyway, Paul George's exit from OKC was much worse. At least Durant left as a free agent.

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