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Post#841 » by thor19 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:45 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:We are definitely going to have 2 teams in next regular season.

:o :o we have 21 players !!
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Post#842 » by thedoppelganger » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:34 pm

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Looks like Marks had it mostly right
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Post#843 » by slick_watts » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:45 pm

this must have been quite complicated to complete. NOP had to be under the cap to s&t cheatham and gray to us. all three of these deals must be for 3 years minimum, but 2nd and 3rd years likely non-guaranteed. the first season must be guaranteed. so that's 18 guaranteed salaries on our roster by my count, not including the rookies.

darius miller might get a buy-out. still leaves some more maneuvering. another likely insignificant consequence of this deal is that it hard-caps us at the apron.

i've been following basketball for a long time and i can't remember a team having an offseason like the thunder are doing this year.
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Post#844 » by retrobro90 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:39 pm

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

Darius Bazley

Luguentz Dort

Aleksej Pokuševski

Théo Maledon

Ty Jerome

Hamidou Diallo

Jalen Lecque

Mike Muscala

Vincent Poirier

Isaiah Roby

Admiral Schofield

Al Horford

Josh Hall

Justin Jackson

Trevor Ariza

George Hill

Darius Miller

Kenrich Williams

Josh Gray

Zylan Cheatham

Plus : Moses Brown on a two way, Vit Krecji (probably stashed for this year at least).
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Post#845 » by thedoppelganger » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:44 pm

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Now this would be interesting - using all the other exceptions to absorb the salaries from the Pelicans, we might be able to create an Adams sized one
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Post#846 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:17 pm

slick_watts wrote:this must have been quite complicated to complete. NOP had to be under the cap to s&t cheatham and gray to us. all three of these deals must be for 3 years minimum, but 2nd and 3rd years likely non-guaranteed. the first season must be guaranteed. so that's 18 guaranteed salaries on our roster by my count, not including the rookies.

darius miller might get a buy-out. still leaves some more maneuvering. another likely insignificant consequence of this deal is that it hard-caps us at the apron.

i've been following basketball for a long time and i can't remember a team having an offseason like the thunder are doing this year.



I can’t remember two teams combined having an off-season like this. Pretty remarkable.
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Post#847 » by slick_watts » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:27 pm

thedoppelganger wrote:
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Now this would be interesting - using all the other exceptions to absorb the salaries from the Pelicans, we might be able to create an Adams sized one


i hadn't thought of this. adds value to the oubre trade, without which it isn't possible.
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Post#848 » by thedoppelganger » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:19 pm

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Post#849 » by spearsy23 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:27 pm

Baby westbrook we barely knew you
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#850 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:41 pm

slick_watts wrote:this must have been quite complicated to complete. NOP had to be under the cap to s&t cheatham and gray to us. all three of these deals must be for 3 years minimum, but 2nd and 3rd years likely non-guaranteed. the first season must be guaranteed. so that's 18 guaranteed salaries on our roster by my count, not including the rookies.

darius miller might get a buy-out. still leaves some more maneuvering. another likely insignificant consequence of this deal is that it hard-caps us at the apron.

i've been following basketball for a long time and i can't remember a team having an offseason like the thunder are doing this year.


From a management perspective, I think the outcome of our rebuild in the next 4-5 years is going to have an impact on a lot of people mind about basketball business/rebuild in small market teams (and even in bigger teams)

We will need some luck and good drafting but this offseason is a masterpiece from Presti (he had much leverage last year with PG13/Kawhi and Houston being desperate to flip CP3)
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Post#851 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:44 pm

is T.J Leaf worse than Baby Westbrook? No idea why we made this trade and why we won a 2nd
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Post#852 » by Old Man Game » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:48 pm

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Get them picks.

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Post#853 » by slick_watts » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:52 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:is T.J Leaf worse than Baby Westbrook? No idea why we made this trade and why we won a 2nd


he's terrible. this was about getting a pick. and maybe about getting above the salary floor.
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Post#854 » by spearsy23 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:53 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:is T.J Leaf worse than Baby Westbrook? No idea why we made this trade and why we won a 2nd

Probably not, they both suck, but we got the 2and for getting indy out of the tax.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#855 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:53 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:is T.J Leaf worse than Baby Westbrook? No idea why we made this trade and why we won a 2nd


he's terrible. this was about getting a pick. and maybe about getting above the salary floor.


Indiana saving money as well.

Wonder if a guy like him is going to have some minutes. he has more upside than Diallo!?
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Post#856 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:55 pm

Already 9 trades this offseason. We traded almost every player we acquired.
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Re: Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread 

Post#857 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:14 am

Dadouv47 wrote:is T.J Leaf worse than Baby Westbrook? No idea why we made this trade and why we won a 2nd

Imagine your buddy tells you that he will pay you to take the loose pennies in his cup holder so his coffee doesn’t tip over. You agree but to tell him he has to take the mystery piece of candy you found a few days ago between the seats.
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Post#858 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:56 am

OKC and Lakers clearly winning the offseason...from top to bottom of the league
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Post#859 » by jake_swivel » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:01 am

Recap on 2nd rounders acquired as far as I can tell:

Oubre to warriors: Denver’s 2021
Rubio to minny: 2024 (I think minny’s)
Lecque to Indy: “future 2nd”
Adams to NO: 2023 (wizards) & 2024 (hornets)
Johnson to mavs: “draft compensation”
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Re: Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread 

Post#860 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:18 pm

Would you take John Wall even if it included Avdija and picks?

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