Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture

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Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#1 » by shakes0 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:12 pm

:( Damn. Shooting hand too.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#2 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:31 pm

This is precisely why you can't dick around and wait for internal growth when you are a good team. We could be fine. We also might not be fine.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#3 » by Clav » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:30 pm

It can always be worse, but agree with above, we cannot be messing around this year. We have an extra roster spot, we should make a move now.

Also - at least it isn't a substantially season-ending injury. Let's get him back before December ends.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#4 » by cjmcallist » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:11 pm

Dang. After last year's injury fortune, this has me worried.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#5 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:44 pm

Clav wrote:It can always be worse, but agree with above, we cannot be messing around this year. We have an extra roster spot, we should make a move now.

Also - at least it isn't a substantially season-ending injury. Let's get him back before December ends.


The move to sign someone to the room MLE should have been done months ago. That would have given them salary to make a significant move during the season, if needed. You wouldn't be making a move right now anyway because you still have your big man rotation from last year together and there isn't a need for anyone else in the regular season. The refusal to put the team in a situation to maximize opportunities is why Presti is very unlikely to ever bring a championship to OKC.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#6 » by Clav » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:58 pm

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Clav wrote:It can always be worse, but agree with above, we cannot be messing around this year. We have an extra roster spot, we should make a move now.

Also - at least it isn't a substantially season-ending injury. Let's get him back before December ends.


The move to sign someone to the room MLE should have been done months ago. That would have given them salary to make a significant move during the season, if needed. You wouldn't be making a move right now anyway because you still have your big man rotation from last year together and there isn't a need for anyone else in the regular season. The refusal to put the team in a situation to maximize opportunities is why Presti is very unlikely to ever bring a championship to OKC.


It, of course, would not surprise me if Presti did nothing, per usual. I'm delusional in hoping for swift action, let's face it. ha!

You know just for delusion's sake, we have a roster spot available, we're beneath the 2nd apron, we have some flexibility as far as I can tell to perform a complementary piece or depth building trade... and our depth could be tested this year, nothing is guaranteed. It bugs me we didn't do that MLE deal months ago, too.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#7 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:03 pm

No clue how we can blame Presti for this. He finally made the moves (Caruso, Hartenstein). **** happens...this time we are very short and yeah we gotta hope to bring someone if we suck.

It's frustrating because I was excited to see Hartenstein with Chet and it's obviously bad for our team but it's not the worst timing to have that kind of issue. I only care about the postseason and even if it could cost some HCA, it's not such a big deal. Just gotta hope we won't have major injury issues overall.

Even a pessimistic guy like me knows that our team is the best in the West by a decent margin so barrying more injuries (and hopefully with JDub making a leap) our odds to reach the finals are pretty good.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#8 » by The Servant » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:25 pm

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Clav wrote:It can always be worse, but agree with above, we cannot be messing around this year. We have an extra roster spot, we should make a move now.

Also - at least it isn't a substantially season-ending injury. Let's get him back before December ends.


The move to sign someone to the room MLE should have been done months ago. That would have given them salary to make a significant move during the season, if needed. You wouldn't be making a move right now anyway because you still have your big man rotation from last year together and there isn't a need for anyone else in the regular season. The refusal to put the team in a situation to maximize opportunities is why Presti is very unlikely to ever bring a championship to OKC.


It, of course, would not surprise me if Presti did nothing, per usual. I'm delusional in hoping for swift action, let's face it. ha!

You know just for delusion's sake, we have a roster spot available, we're beneath the 2nd apron, we have some flexibility as far as I can tell to perform a complementary piece or depth building trade... and our depth could be tested this year, nothing is guaranteed. It bugs me we didn't do that MLE deal months ago, too.


I dont get this "does nothing per usual". The team put together a good run last year and got their first actual series win. They added Hart and Caruso and have an absolute banger of a roster. Hes done a lot for someone who does nothing..

Back up big went down for 5-6 weeks and it just happened recently. I think the team will be fine, no need to panic and start making moves for some plug to fill in for a month.

What a lot of people don't get is impatient GMs are always making panic signings and end up ham strung with bad contracts, fit, and flexibility. Its not often stop gap pieces all over your roster leads to a chip (unless you have prime Wade, Bosh and Bron).
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#9 » by Kizz Fastfists » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:41 pm

The Servant wrote:I dont get this "does nothing per usual". The team put together a good run last year and got their first actual series win. They added Hart and Caruso and have an absolute banger of a roster. Hes done a lot for someone who does nothing..

Back up big went down for 5-6 weeks and it just happened recently. I think the team will be fine, no need to panic and start making moves for some plug to fill in for a month.

What a lot of people don't get is impatient GMs are always making panic signings and end up ham strung with bad contracts, fit, and flexibility. Its not often stop gap pieces all over your roster leads to a chip (unless you have prime Wade, Bosh and Bron).



Panic move? No. They should have signed someone to the room MLE months ago because that gives you more salary to trade at the deadline. No one knows what the team will need at the deadline, but giving yourself the most options is what a GM does when they want to win a championship. Being prudent and impatient are not the same thing. OKC exceeded my expectations last season. I said they were a quality big man short of making it to the 2nd round headed into the season. I was wrong, they were a quality big man away from the Finals. We saw what happened the last time Presti had a team that was in position to win a championship. Russ got hurt and the team got gutted and never had another chance to win. Chet is the type of player that traditionally has the most injury issues. Not adding quality depth is not impatience it is incompetence.

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Even if Presti had given himself the best opportunity to win a championship you don't do anything right now. You wait for Hartenstein to return. You see how the team plays. Then at deadline you make your consolidation move to get whatever you need at the time. OKC and Dallas both took steps forward this off-season. Denver still has Jokic, Murray, Porter, etc. OKC probably gets the #1 seed again, but will they be in position to get through the West? They were one move last year to that answer being yes. You could argue that if they just refused to facilitate Gafford to Dallas the answer would have been yes. If they end up one move away from that answer being yes this season because they lacked the salaries to aggregate in a trade will you still be happy? It was discussed all off-season that the team needed another quality big man.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#10 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:35 pm

Presti signed Alex Reese to the 15th roster spot. It's a nonguaranteed deal.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#11 » by Mr Thunder Nick » Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:27 am

I'm nearly sure, that Dillon Jones can give us valuable minutes early on. OK, he will not take the role from Hartenstein, but he is very physical and tough. A good rebounder and a great body with good basketball IQ. And he can score. Mark will trust him.
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Re: Hartenstein out 5-6 weeks hand fracture 

Post#12 » by Luv those Knicks » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:55 am

Knick fan here. I miss Hartenstein. I would love to still have him.

We have a good team. Bridges & KAT (KAT especially) were good additions. We had a good draft. I still wish we had I-Hart.
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