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1 Westbrook, Weaver, watson
2 Durrant, wilkens
3 Green, Mason
4. Wilcox, DJ White, smith, marshal
5 Collison, Petro, Swift? Sene?

lots of expiring contacts who wants to trade?
I am excited for the season.... Oh no games for us... F$%&# ME

Not bad. Pretty decent lineup. Im interested to see how this team does.

Is weaver 2 or 3?

Weaver is a lock down defender, shot blocker, distributor, rebounder, displined , hardnosed ... who like to take the ball to the basket and needs to work on His jumpshot but has improved

depends who is one the court... I like him at point Guard
1 Weaver 6-5 plays 1/2
2 Westbrook 6-4 plays 1/2
3 Durrant 6-11 plays 2/3/4
4 Wilcox 6-10 plays 4
5 Collison 6-9 plays 4/5

6th man Green plays 3/4
7th man Petro plays 4/5

rest
White..4, Joe Smith 4, Marshal 3/4, watson 1, wilkens 2/3, mason 2/3

Swift, Sene Injury list


We need a good sharp shooter ! and a Good center!

I like this lineup =) all bigs

My Lineup at this time would be when everyone fit.

PG- watson,wesbrook,weaver
SG-Durant,westbrook,mason,weaver,wilkins
SF-green,mason,durant,wilkins
PF-wilcox,smith,green,dj white,collison,marshall
C-collison,swift, petro,sene

Review of the lineup

PG-looks good for future able pg in watson and good prospects in westbrook and weaver.
SG-to me this worry other than durant we have no 3pt specialist a natural sg needs to be acquired with wilkins being dealt.
SF-by far our strongest position green and mason will be solid and you havent even added durant which really this is his natural position.
PF-overloaded here and no clear starter as uncertainty with expirings of wilcox and smith.keeping both were solid at pf.dj white rookie has promise.collison will play center and marshall needs to be dealt or bought out.
C-as always a worry collison does a decent job but is not a natural center,petro looks lke he can be a decent backup.swift has most upside but him and sene are injured and futures uncertain.

SUMMARY

pf marshall expiring needs to be dealt or bought out,sg/sf wilkins to is not needed and needs to be dealt.either wilcox exp or smith exp needs to be dealt now or both by trade deadline.needs are a natural sg (vet or prospect)that can hit the 3 shame we couldnt get cj miles and as always a natural center who is fit collison is not the answer there.

I agree that we definitely need a true sg and c. It would be a shame if we play Durant out of position again this year. And we do not have a solid center.

I think Petro will start by default at center. As you mentioned, Collision is a PF, and he is only 6 ft 9 in. Collison played almost exclusively PF last season, so I don't think he will start at center. Even after we traded Kurt Thomas, he continued to come off the bench at PF. Without Elson, I'm sure Collison and Wilkox will both have to play more at center though.

Watson/Westbrook/Weaver
Durant/Mason/Westbrook/Wilkins
Green/Durant/Mason/Wilkins
Wilkox/Collison/Green/White
Petro/Collison/Wilkox/Sene/Swift

A line-up I think we will see a lot of

Watson
Westbrook
Durant
Green
Wilcox or Collison

The more I think about the PF/C siuation I think Collison could be dealt he has a lot of more value than Wilcox and Smith.Were not looking to win now and Collison is not the future at PF or C. He averages 9-9 has a cap friendly contract will be a very useful off the bench covering both PF and C.I know hes reliable but as I said hes not the future so I could see him going.

I really like Collison, he is a great rebounder and just hustles his butt off. Your right, he is not our PF of the future, but he could continue to be a solid rotational player. That said, I'm not against trading him for a sg or true center.

On another note, maybe Joe Smith could start for us at C.

london sonic wrote:The more I think about the PF/C siuation I think Collison could be dealt he has a lot of more value than Wilcox and Smith.Were not looking to win now and Collison is not the future at PF or C. He averages 9-9 has a cap friendly contract will be a very useful off the bench covering both PF and C.I know hes reliable but as I said hes not the future so I could see him going.

Like you said... he could be VERY useful off the bench. I think that is the future

I think on our team we posess enough PFs and Cs that one of each could pan out to be the starter without even trading. I would love to see WIlcox be re-energized and one of the 3 C prospects emmerge. This would leave us with a young, solid starting 4/5 combo with a perfect backup in Collison, who could still get 30 min a night backing up both spots, and then there's still some left over for an "energy" kind of guy like White.

I think that things could really shape up with the players we've got now without a need for many trades. Especially if we get another high pick next year, if that's the case I would love to see them add a perimeter scorer at the 1/2 to compliment Westbrook. At that point, if the pieces fall into place, we could be set without a ton of change.

My point is not that Collison is not a good role player hes a excellent double double machine .Its that he is our most valuable trading piece at PF and OKC have extreme depth at the position and they also need to give quality minutes for Green.My point is trading our a future back up at pf/c to maybe acquire a young starter at SG or C.Also with the glut at PF his minutes could decrease and so his value. Im not talking about trading him for crap.

Fair enough, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that Collison could be a key player in a future winning team here. I would just rather hold onto him, knowing that, and patiently wait for our SG and/or C to come to us in this coming draft, the huge amount of cap space we have, or a different trade.

Valid point too.One thing Im sure whoever Presti deals be it any of the expirings or Collison it will be a master stroke I cant wait to see what he does next.

PG Russell Westbrook Earl Watson
SG Kevin Durant Damien Wilkens Kyle Weaver
SF Jeff Green Desmond Mason Donyell Marshall
PF Chris Wilcox Joe Smith DJ White
C Nick Collison Johan Petro Robert Swift Saer Sene

I think thats what the rotation will be a majority of the year, assuming everyone is healthy. Would love to see Swift be the backup C over Johan Petro, though.

How does the Durant/Green wing combination work on defense? Can Durant guard shooting guards? Or does Jeff Green play a Josh Howard type of role and guard whomever is the more difficult matchup on the wing?

Collison at center? Did Oklahoma use that a lot last season? How did that work out?

Durant's footwork on defence is improving, but not good enough to lock down opponents from the perimeter, and he is too slim to face players who like to make strong body contact. Nevertheless, Durant has the potential to become a good defender, his wingspan is terrific and he's willing to improve his defending skills.
Green is a good defender as a rooky, he plays tough and likes to hustle on the defence side. It's resonable to asigne Green to guard the more difficult matchup on the wing in order to protect Durant.

Playing Collison at C is not a good strategy, I think, but PJ Carlesimo will keep doing so if Petro is still immature to back up at this position, plus Swift and Sene are always in the Injury list.

Collison is the best (and possibly only) post defender on the roster. Trading him would be a huge mistake if winning games is a goal, although it would certainly lock up a Top 3 pick. He has played a ton of C during his career and would almost certainly be the starter there next season. I think the only reason to trade him is either if an amazing offer comes along (a young player who can contribute at the 2 or 5 like someone else stated) or if he demands a trade. He is definitely the only true Presti-type of player left from the previous GM.

Did Durant play any PF last season? If so how did he look? Can he bang at all or his he limited to playing more of a finesse style? 82games has him playing a wing position basically the whole season.

Is the plan to bulk him up or to let him remain slender?

cavsfan_osiris wrote:Did Durant play any PF last season?

No.

cavsfan_osiris wrote:Can he bang at all or his he limited to playing more of a finesse style? 82games has him playing a wing position basically the whole season.

Definitely finesse. 82games has it right.

cavsfan_osiris wrote:Is the plan to bulk him up or to let him remain slender?

This isn't so much based on a "plan" as it's based on KD's physical limitations. I'm sure that the front office would like him to put on as much weight as possible to make him more of a post option on both ends of the floor. This is pretty unlikely, however, as his body type prevents him from ever chiseling out to the solid 260 that Lebron plays at. He is a lot more similar to Tyson Chandler, and will most likely hover around 230 his entire career.